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Re read my post especially your words I put I bold type.
Nothing wrong in having an opinion, even a contrary one but to suggest every rider was doping? That's just naive (and incorrect)
Just in case any of the enablers feel they want to reach out you can give your support here.
[url= http://www.lancesupport.org/blog/messages-of-support.html ]http://www.lancesupport.org/blog/messages-of-support.html[/url]
Given all the requests for where to watch the interview, am I the only one deliberately not watching this interview (I'm happy to read transcripts, but that's not the same thing)? It might not make any real difference, but I can't help think that watching it is in some way enabling him.
I read the transcript and , by chance, caught the last 20 minutes or so.
You get a much better feel watching it than reading it.
He came over more sincere and open in person
he is still a **** and really should have been pushed on his treatment of others.
Jesus faced a mob that was eager to execute a woman caught in adultery. He put a stop to it with a simple challenge: anyone who has no sin in their life should step forward and throw the first stone. That sentence is often cited as a reminder to avoid judging others when there are faults in your own life that need to be addressed.
'Those of you who have won the tour under the effects of epo and blood transfusions and have robbed the career's of other speak now! Otherwise STFU as youve no idea what I've done!
I'm calling Oprah, there's a few things I need to get off my chest.
Sputnik +1
Jesus isn't real.
The Lance interview should of ended with him pedaling away on a tiny bike with training wheels
People believed him, they saw him perform miracles and heal the sick, they became disciples are bore his mark on their wrists and suffered persecution because of their faith.
Bit like Jesus then. (except the $250million fortune he conned out of people)
There are politicians who do far worse on a daily basis.
Jesus v Lance heard it all ๐ so we can't criticise or Judge Lance because we haven't got our own houses in order. Get back on your soapbox.
lance needs to be Stoned with old 9sp cassettes 12-23 or 11-32 (well im not gonna use new one's,you seen the price of good cassettes these days)
There are politicians who do far worse on a daily basis.
But they are no worse than you? I mean you squashed a fly once, you took a life just like that and we are all equal under the eyes of the lord?
Here's a biblical word for you: Hippocrite
There are politicians who do far worse on a daily basis.
I dont agree and even f true everyone knows two wrongs dont make a right
I feel I need to confess to Oprah for all the recreational drugs I took from 1991 - 2001 , I didn't win any tournaments but did cycle to work during those times. I also went out with a 50 mile an hour tailwind to blag a top Strava segment. ๐
Anyone else feel cheated once again by lance with these interviews? They looked as though they were going to reveal something but there is nothing. He is upset that he got a lifetime ban when others got 6months but when he got that chance he turned it down and went after the USADA instead. He thinks he has ended up 'in a place not of his making' but I suspect many would disagree with that
anyone got a youtube link for part 2 ?
During the bit where he choked up while talking about his kids, I found myself wondering whether this was just someone doing a convincing impression of emotion. The ability to fake emotion to manipulate others is another classic psychopathic trait.
The most revealing moment for me was in part 1, where he described "apologising" to Betsy Andreu. He admitted calling her crazy and a bitch, but was indignant that she "wrongly" claimed he also called her fat. That wee anecdote spoke volumes about the man, his absence of normal self awareness, and how contrite he really is.
kcr, Nah, nothing revealing about that, he was just scared shitless to admit he's a fatty hater in front of Oprah..
all those add breaks were for cake!
I found the whole interview a little too non-confrontational with too few genuinely challenging questions for him. It was all a bit lightweight.
My biggest problem with LA is the aggressive and relentless pursuit of anyone who tried to tell the truth about him. There should have been more questions about this and the fact he committed perjury numerous times and the people he ruined. Also the fact that he appears to have waited until the Statute of Limitations cut off has just passed for the perjury charges that would otherwise have been brought.
He's clearly a thoroughly unpleasant bloke - in the first part of the interview there were a couple of questions where you could see his temper flare in his eyes. On each occasion he failed to satisfactorily answer the question that had clearly angered him. The man is a control freak and arch manipulator.
I suspect he's going to have a mountain of lawsuits land on his doorstep in the next couple of weeks from all those people he destroyed, smeared, bankrupted, threatened, perjured etc.
I'm amazed that he thinks he should be allowed to compete again, albeit after punishment. Sorry dude, you're a *. There are plenty others deserving a shot. You screwed up, accept it and [s]move on[/s] * off.
The 1st part is here:
Deux:
thanks for the link mudshark
Was this the first take? ๐
prick needs shooting
cant bear to watch pt2,self scented ****.
Anyone hear Emma O'Reilly on R5 this morning?
I caught the last 10 mins and she was incredibly forgiving.
She could have hated and damned him outright.
Suspect the forgiveness may be more effective at getting through to him than hate.
Hat definitely doffed to her.
He came over more sincere and open in person
That's another reason for not wanting to watch it - given how he comes across is doubtless all a lie as well. I really have no desire to watch him attempt to justify himself.
I found the whole interview a little too non-confrontational with too few genuinely challenging questions for him. It was all a bit lightweight.
Yes and no.
I think she did very well - she'd read up on the subject but she had to cater for the wider American market who may not know the nuances of cycling - they probably know LA more for his celebrity status than the actual ins-and-outs of doping. She cut right to the chase and restricted him initially to binary answers - yes or no. Hence the easy confession. Very few people after that will care about the exact details, that's for USADA to find out.
Personally I think there's too much emotion being shown in this, as though doping started and ended with Lance. He's just the most high profile case, probably of all time. The actual doping thing doesn't bother me that much. Have a read of "Bad Blood" by Jeremy Whittle and you'll see how widespread it all was.
His behaviour and attitude leave an awful lot to be desired which is why he's come in for far more vitriol than his peers - Ullrich, Pantani, Virenque, Vinokourov, Rasmussen etc who were doing everything that LA was.
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Way to much emotion ! Talk of shooting etc, some people need to think before they type.
The doping was just that, a dirty rider in what was at the time a dirty sport.
All that sets him apart was the rabid assaults on anyone who raised questions about him. If Emma O'rielly can forgive him, thats a good thing. Forgivness allows a person to move on and rebuild thier lives. If Amstrong can make proper restitution for his behaviour perhaps a bit more forgivness can help cycling move on to a cleaner future.
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Banksy's take on it all
Edit: struggling to get the image to work
[url= http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/2013/01/lance_armstrong_graffiti_los_angeles_not_banksy.php ]Here[/url]
Banksy's take on it all
Except it's not. As would be clear to you if you bothered to read the article you linked to.

