So why is growing it in a lab helpful?
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Just stop eating it, don’t pissabout growing it in a laboratory.
People eat meat because they like it, and you're not going to change that any time soon (as many many threads on here have proven). Growing it in a lab means we don't have to breed animals specifically to slaughter them.
People can be funny about stuff like that.
I'm funny about stuff like that. I'm funny about stuff like that to a point where it's a problem. I wouldn't pinch a chip off someone if their fish had been lying on top of it. But if I were in a supermarket looking for a frozen meat-free pizza I'd go to the freezers where they keep pizzas.
+1 If you don’t want to eat meat, don’t. What’s with this idea of producing stuff which “simulates” meat but isn’t?
Oh, hang on, let me get my bingo card.
Do you consider shepherd's pie to be a simulated cottage pie?
What I'm getting at Cougar is why produce (and eat) something which looks like (and is marketed as a substitute for) meat? Why not just eat veg looking like veg?
Because it's a convenient form factor for packaging protein. Why make chicken burgers when beef burgers exist?
And, as above, many people like it.
Well, that’s just not true, the US has had Quorn for years. They often market it as a low-fat product rather than pushing the veggie/vegan aspect.
a simple mistake. i couldn’t find it when i lived i the USA. not available in canada. no idea about mexico.
And and,
If no-one bought it, they wouldn't make it. So why do you care? What skin is it off your nose? Eat what you want, let everyone else do the same.
As someone who's been vegetarian since like 1991, these are unprecedented times for commonly having a smorgasbord of food options both in restaurants and in supermarkets. It's brilliant! I can go for a meal with friends without having panic attacks for two days prior. I'm going on holiday next week and I'm probably not going to starve.
You want to eat veg, eat veg. You want to eat meat, eat meat. You want to judge someone for eating vegetable protein that's been moulded into a tube shape then you can hammer my frozen vegetarian sausages up your dog.
a simple mistake. i couldn’t find it when i lived i the USA. not available in canada. no idea about mexico.
It's relatively recent in the US, like the last few years. I was pleasantly surprised. Whether it's nationwide or not I do not know.
Canada I can phone a friend.
No clue about Mexico.
not available in canada.
other funghi derived "ground meat-a-like" products are available.. typically next to the tofu
a simple mistake. i couldn’t find it when i lived i the USA. not available in canada. no idea about mexico.
There have been repeated attempts to ban Quorn in the United States as it is claimed that there are very high levels of food intolerances associated with it, and I certainly cannot eat more than a very small amount of it. I avoid the stuff.
Labelling now has to make clear that Quorn is a mold so that people are aware of what it exactly is:
Edit: The reason you couldn't find Quorn in the US is possibly because it might not be easily available following campaigns to have it banned. I don't think there has been similar campaigns in the UK, everyone seems to think that Quorn is fine.
quorn give some people the squits - and its disgusting stuff.
There have been repeated attempts to ban Quorn in the United States as it is claimed that there are very high levels of food intolerances associated with it
"claimed" and "associated," or "proven"?
Not all Quorn products are vegan, some contain egg which is an allergen.
Labelling now has to make clear that Quorn is a mold so that people are aware of what it exactly is:
It's a mycoprotein so it's a "mo(u)ld" in much the same way that yeast or mushrooms are.
quorn give some people the squits – and its disgusting stuff.
I like it and peanuts kill some people to death.
what has it done with its life other than grow?
What are it's options ?.
A short lived career in television ?.
a simple mistake. i couldn’t find it when i lived i the USA. not available in canada. no idea about mexico.
Yep if we want it we have to pop over the boarder to the states, it's not classed as a food here, in Canada. I don't mind it, Mrs Andeh can't eat beef, and lamb is hard come by here, so it fills the gap. Just don't overcook it and put it in something which does actually taste of something. A bowl of plain, fried Quorn would not be appetizing.
Lab-grown meat makes sense to me, even if it is just a stop gap. Too many people, too many like the taste of meat, not enough farm land to feed us all. Obviously, just not eating meat would be ideal, but it's hard and societal/systemic changes take time.
Out of interest, would any of our resident vegan/vegetarians eat lab-grown meat?
Canada I can phone a friend.
My Canadian friend confirmed that it's not something she sees in stores.
Just don’t overcook it and put it in something which does actually taste of something. A bowl of plain, fried Quorn would not be appetizing.
Yup. The biggest mistake people make with Quorn mince is treating it like beef mince. If you throw it in say a chilli and boil it for an hour you'll end up with slurry.
Would a bowl of plain, fried meat be appetizing? That seems odd.
Out of interest, would any of our resident vegan/vegetarians eat lab-grown meat?
I wouldn't, for reasons I explained earlier. But I'm probably atypical.
Would a bowl of plain, fried meat be appetizing? That seems odd.
Ha! I guess not, though a burger is kind of just that.
The Impossible burgers, and the like, freak me out a bit. It seems a bit perverse, making them "bleed".
Is meat bleeding not a bit perverse? It's euphemistically just "juice" in both cases.
As I've stated many times, I'm not one to criticise people for eating meat. But the loops some will jump through to justify it or to rag on those who don't is just wild. Yet the problem is always "preachy vegans."
Some people like it. That's fine. Others don't, that's fine too. Yell if you're ever in East Lancs, I'll make you a world class hot dog.
I've stopped eating meat for medical reasons, but I love meat! Some fake meat fill that void for me, and I assume other that give up meat for ethical reason still might like the 'taste' or texture experience.
I need to start finding more recipes for none fake meat stuff as I'm probably eating too much ultra processed food at the moment.
Mushroom, paneer and spinach curry is great though, and coronation chickpea is a great sandwich filler.
@Cougar - I'd like that hot dog recipe please??
Is meat bleeding not a bit perverse?
No, that's how animals work.
Do you consider shepherd’s pie to be a simulated cottage pie?
No as they are two different dishes.
This was written a couple of years ago and I don't know much about the site itself but https://thecounter.org/lab-grown-cultivated-meat-cost-at-scale/ seemed to list off a number of reasons why lab grown meat can't scale. Does anyone more knowledgable than me about this stuff (i.e. have any knowledge about it) have any views?
