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....love her or loathe her she's in the news again for driving whilst disqualified, apparently drunk and on cocaine.
Why has the judge said if you go to the Priory for some rehab your sentence could be lighter, if she wasn't in the limelight she'd be doing porridge for a few months, would one of us mere plebs get the same treatment ?
She says she bankrupted- whos paying for her lawyers that are no doubt the best you can buy.
None of it makes sense.
Prison or not ?
These "Bankrupt celebrities"... they always have nice cars.
Last I heard she was driving round in a mobility scooter as she had been banned and had all her cars repossessed.
I wish she'd just get out of the situation she's in (I mean constant limelight/Z-list media attention) & find the time/space to sort her head out.
I feel sorry for her.
Rehab is a good idea and I don't know whether others in her situation (with the law) would get the same leniency.
It's hard to know from the outside and these things are never cut & dried.
Why the interest?
Leave her alone - she obviously needs help.
I can't understand why she's been nicked for driving drunk and while disqualified but not for the coke she freely admitted.
Why the interest?
Leave her alone – she obviously needs help.
Why ? I’m not saying she doesn’t need help, she clearly does.
She’s chosen the life to be a celeb…
I remember deliberately walking into a group of youngish guys who were walking behind her in Cyprus telling her to "get her tits out." She had a pram and a young boyfriend with her and it was the middle of the day. May be an element of making a rod for her own back but that sort of abuse/attention has to have an impact.
if she wasn’t in the limelight she’d be doing porridge for a few months
sentence hasn't been passed yet ? i presume she's copped for it straight away as her brief probably told her the court would look more favorably on her. the coke thing isn't possession the offense ?
She doesn't need leaving alone at all, she needs to stop being an arse.
That road is not far from me, and I use it often when I am on motorbike. She could have very easily killed someone - because she was "lonely".
Perhaps she does need help - she has had plenty of opportunity and a few near misses but continues as was ....
The judge is doing what they can based on the evidence put forward, if they believe that this action would provide benefit against any future issues then that's within their remit, same as they offer drug offenders lighter sentences if they go into a programme and so on.
I tend to see both sides of argument here, a lot of famous people get harsher treatment in courts, due to the media circus and spotlight put on the judge and CPS, so you can't really raise that going in her favour, as the judge is already getting it in the neck for offering something that is already widely used to attempt to reduce repeat offending.
I saw the article and just assumed she'd been out partying getting pissed and taking coke- I never realised she had "problems" or a problematic/addictive relationship with alcohol/drugs but I really wouldn't know.
I doubt she's getting any special treatment from the court specifically for being a celebrity to be honest, I expect the punishment is in line with what most people could expect if in a similar position to her with similar lawyers- celebrity or not.
Either way, I'm finding it difficult to have much sympathy for her. I've got a lot of sympathy for people with addiction problems or similar (if that's what she's got) but if you're going to repeatedly drive when under the influence or banned or whatever and crash when pissed out your face than you are kind of making it public business to be fair.
Why the interest?
Leave her alone – she obviously needs help.
Seriously? Would you be saying that if she'd just wiped out a member of your family whilst under the influence?
Why the interest?
Leave her alone – she obviously needs help.
Why ? I’m not saying she doesn’t need help, she clearly does.
She’s chosen the life to be a celeb…
As much as I find some of her actions and personality odious, I fall to Danny's point here. The one area of constant love in her life has been Harvey, and now's he's distanced from her and is calling for help which must be very difficult for her. She has financial issues, has recently suffered a home invasion and likely does not have a better half to support her honestly in the way he needs.
On the other hand, she appears to be a constant attention seeker which no doubt has led to a lot of the issues she's experienced. I don't excuse other's behaviour toward her within that sentence.
I'd say she doesn't need the Priory so much as long term support and help to manage her self esteem enough to get out of the limelight and help her manage a quiet life that doesn't have a constant interjection of public scrutiny or need for narcissist activity.
Seriously? Would you be saying that if she’d just wiped out a member of your family whilst under the influence?
Fortunately she didn't, and that does not excuse the behaviour but please don't judge someone with clear mental health issues on an imagined outcome.
Do you think she’ll sell us the rest of the petrol in her car’s tank?
I hope she sorts herself out, but can’t help but think if she was a single mum from a council estate caught drunk driving and a load of Charlie coursing through her there wouldn’t be any sympathy or asking for understanding!
Do you think she’ll sell us the rest of the petrol in her car’s tank?
Maybe not the petrol, but she'll probably try to sell us a book in few months time....
On the other hand, she appears to be a constant attention seeker which no doubt has led to a lot of the issues she’s experienced.
Or the other issues have led to her being an attention seeker?
I dunno, it's difficult with cases like this. It might be helpful to separate out "but she's a celebrity" because what's a celebrity really, other than someone you've heard of but probably never met. You may as well argue "yeah, but he chose to be a joiner!"
Courts should be fair and objective, it shouldn't make a difference that the accused is someone famous for having breasts. They should be sentencing her with the same punishment / support that you or I would be given.
Plenty of people have difficult lives and mental health issues, and manage to avoid getting into a car pissed and stoned out of their brains.
I'm sure any mitigating circumstances will be taken into account when sentencing her for driving whilst disqualified, with no insurance, and under the influence of drugs and alcohol, but tbh, she deserves a short custodial sentence.
Plenty of people have difficult lives and mental health issues, and manage to avoid getting into a car pissed and stoned out of their brains.
Equally, many people do get into a car pissed and stoned out of their brains but it just doesn't make it to mainstream media.
Why the interest?
Leave her alone – she obviously needs help.
Happy to but she is a danger to the public and needs to be off the road. I think a spell in prison is appropriate.
it just doesn’t make it to mainstream media.
But it should make it to the courts.
Why has the judge said if you go to the Priory for some rehab your sentence could be lighter, if she wasn’t in the limelight she’d be doing porridge for a few months, would one of us mere plebs get the same treatment ?
Did they say that? I think she was allowed to go to the priory rather than being remanded pending sentencing, but you may have read something different. Certainly its not that unusual for someone who has just started a treatment programme to be given time to show its having a positive effect before sentencing. The unusual thing here is she commits an offence on tues and has a place lined up the next day - most of us relying on NHS/Social Work support would be waiting months to get any sort of treatment programme.
She says she bankrupted- whos paying for her lawyers that are no doubt the best you can buy.
I doubt her lawyer was anything special. He certainly wasn't reported as saying or doing anything unusual. He could even have been the "duty solicitor". He didn't say she was bankrupt, he said she was in the process of going bankrupt. Its not an instant thing. Presumably someone is paying for the Priory too?
Prison or not ?
that will be a decision for the bench in December when they will have more information. If they are considering sending to jail that will almost certainly be a social work background report. I'm sure the defence will bring background reports from the Priory or others. Given the nature of the offences a custodial sentence is certainly likely - but it won't be especially long (a year, out in 6months, perhaps a tag earlier?) and the prison service will do nothing for any addiction issues she has in that time and likely little work to prevent reoffending. So there IS an argument for not jailing if there is a credible alternative that actually has a realistic prospect of change. All sentences are supposed to achieve some mix of these elements:
A sentence aims to:
* Punish the offender – this can include going to prison, doing unpaid work in the community, obeying a curfew or paying a fine.
* Reduce crime – by preventing the offender from committing more crime and putting others off from committing similar offences.
* Reform and rehabilitate offenders – changing an offender’s behaviour to prevent future crime for example by requiring an offender to have treatment for drug addiction or alcohol abuse.
* Protect the public – from the offender and from the risk of more crimes being committed by them. This could be by putting them in prison, restricting their activities or supervision by probation.
* Make the offender give something back
You could clearly make a case that an electronic tag, a rehab programme, social work supervision to tackle the cause of the offending, a large fine (if she's not bankrupt) and unpaid work together with a prolonged driving ban actually achieve more of those things for longer than sending to jail. Defence solicitors all over the country make those sort of pleas for all sorts of people day in day out, usually for very low fees with a genuine interest in not only trying to help their client but avoiding bunging up prisons with people who will come out worse than they went in.
I hope she sorts herself out, but can’t help but think if she was a single mum from a council estate caught drunk driving and a load of Charlie coursing through her there wouldn’t be any sympathy or asking for understanding!
You may be partly right, but if she was a single mum from a council estate the court would generally still be hesitant to send her to jail and put the kid in care (I'm not sure if Katie Price has kids still at home but your example did). If reports were required then it would probably not be unusual to grant bail whilst those reports were prepared. That also means if jail is almost inevitable that the mother has a chance to make some arrangements that might be better than SW just turning up to take a kid into care.
Of course, the corollary is that if she was someone "anonymous" from a council estate that after she's served her punishment she will be able to go back to normal life. This is probably not going to help get her life back on track (actually jail time might - there's a book in that!)
But it should make it to the courts.
That would be for the prosecution service to decide and Katie Price appeared at Crawley Magistrates’ Court yesterday.
but it won’t be especially long (a year, out in 6months, perhaps a tag earlier?)
I think six months is the maximum for drunk driving, so even with aggravating factors - drugs - something like 12 weeks, out in six, would still be considered a fairly hefty sentence.
I hope she sorts herself out, but can’t help but think if she was a single mum from a council estate caught drunk driving and a load of Charlie coursing through her there wouldn’t be any sympathy or asking for understanding!
Just read the court section of your local newspaper to depress yourself over what sentences people actually get
One of the oddly celebrity obsessed blokes at work was looking at this yesterday, this is currently her third driving ban. It's one thing being able to afford a nice car when you're apparently bankrupt, but how the hell does she get insurance?!
, if she wasn’t in the limelight she’d be doing porridge for a few months,
Highly unlikely. If you watch the Traffic Cops type programmes, you'll see very few people get sent down for drink/drug driving offences. Rightly or wrongly.
She appears to have mental health/drug issues. Not sure prison will resolve those for her, and an overcrowded prison system probably needs that bed for someone else.
but how the hell does she get insurance?!
She's saving a fortune on that by virtue of being banned and not able to get any.
Highly unlikely. If you watch the Traffic Cops type programmes, you’ll see very few people get sent down for drink/drug driving offences. Rightly or wrongly.
Has to come a point where going to prison is the only real course of action to prevent someone who knows they are banned and uninsured from getting behind the wheel anyway.
Just read the court section of your local newspaper to depress yourself over what sentences people actually get
Big-n-daft are you still living in the 80s?
A local newspaper? With a court section?
Has to come a point where going to prison is the only real course of action to prevent someone who knows they are banned and uninsured from getting behind the wheel anyway.
I agree, but a second offence isn't usually it.
She’s saving a fortune on that by virtue of being banned and not able to get any.
Hahaha.
She's a troubled individual, and has been for years, but I doubt she'll get any favourable treatment for being a faded celeb.
She's almost the personification of the noughties celeb culture craze - in both the perceived shallowness of her achievements and her subsequent fall from grace.
I've never met her, but have worked on projects involving her. Apparently she's very Ronseal, and I don't just mean the fake tan. What you see is what you get, and it might be a bit crude.
Hope justice is served, and it might give her a kick up the arse to make some positive changes.
the thing is though, there are regular articles in the local rag about some toe-rag who's finally been banged up for killing or injuring someone whilst drunk/no insurance etc, and very often it's the latest in a string of driving offences which seem to have not been taken seriously at all. Can't help but think that if the 1st or 2nd offences are cracked down on hard, the deaths or injuries might be avoided.I agree, but a second offence isn’t usually it.
Tony Adams got 4 months (serving 2) for crashing his car into a wall 4x over the limit. Think he had a license at the time.
Cursory internet trawling following a comment above, shows she’s been banned six times previously. She’s has to be fairly close to the cusp for a custodial now - banned, drunk, drugged all seem to be a lot of aggravating factors for sentencing.
She’s a single mum, with a special needs child and mental health issues who’s just suffered the ‘trauma’ of a home invasion, she’ll not do a day despite her previous form.
I doubt sending her to prison is going to help her, probably just make hers and others' lives worse long term and cost the taxpayer loads of £££s
Speculating about sentencing etc is a fools errand really. You don't have all the context or knowledge of the law etc
no, it might well save someone else's life though when she inevitably does this again despite being banned for the nth time!I doubt sending her to prison is going to help her
I have a little compassion for her as she has obviously made some poor choices and has issues with drink and drugs.
However, i've no sympathy whatsoever re-drink/drug driving - i hope she gets treated the same as anyone else who's charged with that - which probably means a few weeks in the big house.
Shocking fall from grace as she was apparently worth millions a few years ago from property and book deals.
She can get help whilst doing porridge and then any kids she's got can go and be looked after properly (she clearly cant).
Im firmly in the camp she should be going away to protect others, not as the punishment for driving without a license, drugs, alcohol (though this is enough anyway)
6 times banned -jeez it just shows you can just not GAF and carry on as normal..-i can't think of any context which would win over a judge - it's not like saying -"yeah i killed that person.............but they were trying to stab me"
All publicity is good for her.
Hmm, not sure, I think this might be the case that proves the 'no such thing as bad publicity' theory wrong!
Blimey, not banned 3 times like I thought, but 6! That should not be possible. Third time, maybe even the second should be a lifetime ban and none of your severe hardship bullshit excuses.
Oh, mysterious girl.
I'd forgotten about her.
Bollocks, this thread has now spoiled my day.
I hate drunk drivers as does anyone with a brain. I think she should never drive again, but bloody hell, if there was anyone more screwed up by fame and fortune, shat on by everyone about her and treated appallingly in attempts to feed of her celebrity , it's her.
She seriously needs help and left alone to sort out her life but the media will never allow it.
That and an ankle tag that stops cars starting with her in it.