I find myself wondering how many warnings have been issued for much more serious behavior on this thread.
You can wonder all you like, that's not something we should be disclosing.
I am arguing that there should be a burden of proof on someone leveling serious accusations and insults.
And that's so very very difficult to prove / police because it's subjective. We're going round in circles now. Unless you're arguing in favour of moderatorial censorship 'just in case' and as I've already said, that's not a forum I want any part in.
Anyway. We seem to be fizzling out now, so I'm done here. I'm going to go and try and do something entertaining with my evening.
Jimjam just link to the posts that offended you then maybe we can work out what you are on about
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Sheldon would be proud.
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I am arguing that there should be a burden of proof on someone leveling serious accusations and insults.
And that’s so very very difficult to prove / police because it’s subjective. We’re going round in circles now. Unless you’re arguing in favour of moderatorial censorship ‘just in case’ and as I’ve already said, that’s not a forum I want any part in.
It's not subjective in the slightest, you just see it as such because it has become the norm to either make allusions to, or simply flat out accuse people of the worst possible things in order to gain an unearned sense of moral superiority while trashing someone's name/reputation/character. It seems that even questioning someone's mental health or attributing their opinions to psychological problems is also fair game in the spirit of "competitive debating".
If it's "subjective" then "aggression" is also subjective, and yet there was no deep pondering or thought given to banning me for using the word idiot in response to being called an idiot. You can argue semantics all you want but a decision was still made by anonymous individuals to issue a ban over something so innocuous. The culture the moderators and owners have created here is one where the benefit of the doubt will always be given to the posters who sling the worst insults and conflate organizations who perpetrated some of the worst crimes in human history with someone who merely disagrees with them politically. If you can't see this you have a serious problem.
You want no part in a forum with "moderatorial consorship" and yet you're part of one that has no impartiality, no concept of fairness or good faith and one where anyone not in the clique is constantly treading on eggshells while slanderers and liars act with complete impunity all the while pretending to be honest interlocutors.
Jimjam - there is only one side throwing insults around on this thread.
You don't like it because some of us challenge the prejudice and misogyny shown on this thread. So many factually incorrect statements made to support an abhorrent point of view. So much clear evidence ignored. so much unpleasantness shown. I have been called a Nazi onthis thread. Very nice.
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Jimjam – there is only one side throwing insults around on this thread.
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Geetee – why do you have this misogynistic crusade completely denying the well proven bias against anyone who is not white and male in our world?
tjagain
I have refrained from commenting on your threads recently because I feel you might be fragile mentally but really dude =- go and get some counselling to open your mind.
Sorry, you were saying?
Lets just be absolutely clear. The fact that there is huge bias against women in the world of work and outside that world and it is well proven. Geetee denies this in the face of the mountains of evidence and quotes vile people like JP in his absurd arguments against the evidence.
This makes him a misogynist.
And with that I will back out of the thread again because of the reasons above.
I really do believe Geetee to be mentally fragile and because of this I have not been commenting on his threads. a I don’t want to exacerbate this
Seriously? He repeatedly posts on here and IMO makes up/exaggerates situations to prove some "point" of his. The fact that this BS thread has got to 14 pages must really float his boat. Mentally fragile? He deliberately goads people with his BS.
jimjam - I agree with a lot of your comments regards the mods on here. At times they totally overstep the mark. Not sure why they fell the need to throw their so called " ban hammer" around so much? Junkyard is a case in point, an annoying shit but did he ever do anything that bad to warrant a ban?
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geetee is misogynistic. His posts over a long period of time prove it. Fair comment.
I disagree. He's made posts about mens issues this doesn't = misogyny. Furthermore, you said "crusade completely denying the well proven bias against anyone who is not white and male". There's no such well proven bias, but you bring race into it to double down on just how vile he must be. He denies something which can't be proven, defined or quantified in any way, therefore he's a racist too. Believe in my god or you're evil by default.
I really do believe Geetee to be mentally fragile
And yet you bring up to score points in a debate, that's not the behaviour of someone who cares for another's well being, that's what you do when you're resorting to the lowest possible tactics to undermine the credibility of your victim.
There are at least three, maybe four forum members who I think are suffering from serious mental health issues, or perhaps substance issues. I've decided to completely refrain from replying to or debating with or addressing them in any way for fear of pushing them over the edge. Geetee isn't one of them imo, but if you genuinely believe what you say you should adopt the same tact.
I have in the past been emailed off forum by another poster asking me to back of from putting Geetee right on his prejudicial views for ( that persons) fear of the damage it does to his psyche.
You're doing it again.
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Junkyard is a case in point, an annoying shit but did he ever do anything that bad to warrant a ban?
That depends doesn't it. From my perspective (ie that of someone who knows he'll be banned for calling someone an idiot) he was guilty of ban worthy behaviour every post, every day. From the perspective of someone with the bullet proof moral authority to question people's mental health, call them a racist, misogynist, nazi etc without fear of any rebuke ever, then no.
He was encouraged by and thrived in the STW mob culture. I even saw posts where mods made inferences of "letting him at/ setting him on" posters who were on the wrong side of the political fence.
I feel used and kinda sad today. I know I said maybe hasty things about The 1950s, but you didn't have to lie about me to get her. You could have had her all along. She was kind of a slutty decade in a 'margarine wouldn't melt in my pill-popping mouth' kinda way anyways, if you looked real hard. *sniff*
I hope you enjoy each other. But at least I can hold my head high. You have to look in the mirror every day, and know that you slandered me. Me and geetee had something nice going too. I respected geetee as the OP, and put a lot of effort into our little talk. I really thought for a hopeful moment that one tiny thread of debate was going ybe even to a place where we might sit and laugh at each other's respectively silly presuppositions about The Great Prophessor. But you took that away also. And when I spent day after day showing you the truth, yet you still lied about me. I wondered why. But know I feel better knowing that you where white-knighting for HER, even as you treated me like dirt. And yet still you kept on slandering me. Just to get her attention? Well I hope you're happy together. And we'll always have last night. But no. This is goodbye. You deserve each other I suppose. Yet when she finds out who you really are don't send your ironing back here again. My door closed already.
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Thanks Jimjam I appreciate what you wrote.
Malvern sorry I’ve not been as engaged in the debate. In truth it’s nothing more Than a genuine limitation on time. I’m away with my two boys in the Lake District as my wife’s working, it’s half term and our nanny is on leave. So we’re havjng a boys week away. Currently sat in a pub after a good walk enjoying a pint of Theaktons and the boys are having an ice cream before we walk back to Ambleside YHA where we are staying (and that’s where I met my wife so this is a special trip for them).
Life is hard but it’s also very rewarding and I mean no one any malice. I have my views but I respect almost everyone I meet in some way. I hope to meet you guys one day also.
Anyone want a chuckle?
Watch JPs cod psychology 101 on YouTube
(Its like a Chris Morris pisstake)
https://twitter.com/AdamRutherford/status/1001227054556286976?s=19
Reminds me of an old flat mate genius mathematician who won the Space Invader tournament on a mix of stuff that meant he didn't sleep for days, but failed the first year as by the end of the year he'd pretty much fried his brain. I soon decided to move out but the hall's manager refused to refund my hall fees - for few minutes. I left with a cheque and found some sane people to live with.
Very good post, Jimjam
I'll just leave this here.
ftse firms excuses for not having women in boardrooms
- “I don’t think women fit comfortably into the board environment”
- “There aren’t that many women with the right credentials and depth of experience to sit on the board - the issues covered are extremely complex”
- “Most women don’t want the hassle or pressure of sitting on a board”
- “Shareholders just aren’t interested in the make-up of the board, so why should we be?”
- “My other board colleagues wouldn’t want to appoint a woman on our board”
- “All the ‘good’ women have already been snapped up”
- “We have one woman already on the board, so we are done - it is someone else’s turn”
- “There aren’t any vacancies at the moment - if there were I would think about appointing a woman”
- “We need to build the pipeline from the bottom - there just aren’t enough senior women in this sector”
- “I can’t just appoint a woman because I want to”
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Shit, still going? Who won?
I’ll just leave this here.
Why?
We can all read the Guardian for free you know.
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the matirarchy, I think
A couple of those reasons above seem reasonable enough.
the matirarchy, I think
I thought he had a lifetime ban!
A couple of those reasons above seem reasonable enough.
Which ones would those be?
I thought he had a lifetime ban!
We should let him back, I never liked Sherlock Holmes anyway.
Though I will never forget the time he burst into the study and instructed me to drop my trousers, bend over and liberally smear my buttocks with Silver Shred marmalade.
"My God Holmes! What are you planning?"
"A lemon entry, my dear Watson."
outside with you now sbob. take a few moments to think about what you have just done