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TurnerGuy - Member
Corbyn wanted out of the EU as it ties his hands re Nationalisation and Govt support/subsidy
and he'll go back to that view if he ever got in...
Love it! Brexiter & anti-corbyn lies all bundled up into one package
Love it! Brexiter & anti-corbyn lies all bundled up into one package
just like saying John McDonnell is a marxist...
just like saying John McDonnell is a marxist...
Difficult to deny when he says the words 'I'm a marxist' 😆 and is lauded by self confessed marxist Ernie Lynch 'I find McDonnell's politics closest to my own' 😆
I guess voting for a marxist chancellor can get folk into this odd state of denial.
Jezza’s been keeping his head down on Brexshit - but as a leaver must be tickled [s]pink[/s] red at what’s happening - but couldn’t help having a crack at financial services again yesterday and a Trumpesque attack on Morgan Stanley for not being “with the program”. With Haringay Hollow Out I am surprised he has time for all this.
What have we done to deserve these kind of politicians. And to think he could easily be the next PM 😯
Except that's not what happened, is it?
He was responding to Morgan Stanley's comments about him.
[url= https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/30/jeremy-corbyn-morgan-stanley-labour-brexit ]Link.[/url]
Still, don't let the facts get in the way.
Indeed don’t
Not being with the program is the direct reference to the MS note. Obviously hit a raw nerve for poor old jezza.
I guess voting for a marxist chancellor can get folk into this odd state of denial
Who's denying it.
THM, the irony is strong this morning.
The only Trumpesque thing about this is you attempting to spin it as an unprovoked attack on Morgan Stanley by JC.
It wasn't.
Your post is the very definition of fake news.
On the contrary I make specific reference to MS not being with the program. I am well aware of what they said - read the “offending” report
Only you are claiming that it is unprovoked
Jezza obviously a bit upset about MS views!!
but couldn’t help having a crack at financial services again yesterday and a Trumpesque attack on Morgan Stanley for not being “with the program”
So you meant that Corbyn didn't say the words "with the program" but included it in your sentence anyway because it was in reference to what Morgan Stanley told its investors. Yes, of course you did...
I can't find a link to the text of Morgan Stanley's statement. Did they use the words "with the program?" (That's a genuine question...not doubting that that's exactly what thm meant in his post.)
On the contrary, I think he's quite happy that his views have been reported.
Oh look, he's even made a sick edit about it...
How many CEOs did jezza refer to in his diatribe? Why did he mention the (insert number) of CEOs that he did?
He even went as far as to say that (insert name) should not be running “our country” - he clearly was a bit emotional
[url= http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/nov/29/east-coast-rail-franchise-terminated-three-years-early-virgin-trains ]Capitalism at its best[/url]
FFS, how is this allowed to go on every time?
Well if anyone knows about emotional outbursts, it’s you thm.
Why did you use “with the program” as a quote? Who said that? I’ve asked if it was MS because I didn’t hear those words in JC’s YouTube video. I can only assume you got it from the MS statement, which I haven’t seen. Is it in there somewhere?
It's almost as if he's using the killfile on you DD
Why use a Killfile? You would miss the fun of the posts especially when people make such an effort these days...
teamhurtmore - Member
Why use a Killfile?
When thm basically admits to trolling or just posting pissed as he did I'm hurting eu thread
No I enjoy reading what people think and say. You can chose how/if you want to respond/join in or not
What have we done to deserve these kind of politicians. And to think he could easily be the next PM
Obviously Corbyn can't be PM if he disagrees with Morgan Stanley. I do find it hilarious that you guys still don't get this. Whilst you ask this, millions more are asking 'What have we done to deserve all these bankers and parasites who get obscenely rich at the expense of everyone else'. This is why he could easily be the next PM. If/when it happens, like with brexit are you going to stop moaning and accept the democratic outcome?
You just ignore his questions then. Rude.
teethgrinder - MemberCapitalism at its best
FFS, how is this allowed to go on every time?
Not so much allowed as encouraged. What a joke. It's almost as though it was frantically privatised because the success of the public-run east coast didn't fit with the privatisation agenda eh.
teamhurtmore - Member
No I enjoy reading what people think and say. You can chose how/if you want to respond/join in or not
You raised this topic, in fact you started the thread.
How about answering the point raised by DD?
He was responding to Morgan Stanley's comments about him
So do we get to call him a grudge holding spoilt man child who can’t take criticism?
As for Morgan Stanley... I hope nobody looks at their board of directors
https://www.morganstanley.com/about-us-governance/board
when people make such an effort these days...
😆
You think a quick fact check of some of your posts takes “such an effort”?*
*Note the use of quotation marks. You said “such an effort” so I used quotation marks. You do know how these work don’t you?
Anyway, this is turning into my question to you on your BS post about Irish domestic politics on the EU thread. Your lack of an answer is an answer in itself - just a more cowardly version of the grown-up one.
So do we get to call him a grudge holding spoilt man child who can’t take criticism?
Corbyn?
You can if it makes you feel better sweetie.
But responding to criticism seems perfectly reasonable to me.
Ah the studs are back 😉
What's that supposed to mean?
Genuine question btw.
But responding to criticism seems perfectly reasonable to me.
Especially when he uses it to make a political point, cos that's his job and all.
What's that supposed to mean?
It means “I can’t answer the question that has been asked.”
Watch out for future mentions of “abuse”, “posse”, “bullied off the thread”.
I guess voting for a marxist chancellor can get folk into this odd state of denial
Who's denying it.
Unfortunately for those of you who are proudly far left, the vast majority who voted for a marxist chancellor did so in blissful ignorance.
the vast majority who voted for a marxist chancellor did so in blissful ignorance.
How do you know that. What if the vast majority of people who are voting Labour are doing so because they think the Labour economic model is a fairer / better model ?
I would say more people vote for the Conservative party in blissful ignorance as they are not part of the 5% that actually benefit from having a Conservative party.
Whilst you ask this, millions more are asking 'What have we done to deserve all these bankers and parasites who get obscenely rich at the expense of everyone else'.
The city pays around £72B of tax each year - enough to pay more than half of the NHS budget or the cost of Army, Police and Fire combined. Although banker bonuses give a cheap headline most of the wealth flows into the pension schemes etc that anyone not in the public sector will rely on in their old age.
What "millions" should be asking is - if Corbyn's crackpot policies do result in a flight of capital (as most international commentators seem to agree), how much more will those millions themselves have to pay? Each £2B increase the government spends is around 1p on the basic rate of income tax or thereabouts. Perhaps people will only really be able to connect the dots on Corbynomics when they are paying more than 50% tax.
How do you know that. What if the vast majority of people who are voting Labour are doing so because they think the Labour economic model is a fairer / better model ?
Clearly no normal person would vote for a Marxist. Normal people don't support a system that requires millions to die.
Clearly no normal person would vote for a Marxist. Normal people don't support a system that requires millions to die.
I look forward to your explanation.
It is likey that labour will win the next election, this is simply down to the Tory party being unable to keep sufficient voters happy to win. We can discuss the merits of fiscal approach but the reality is that people now vote against things rather than for things. I think Cornyn understands this and the Tory party have yet to come to terms with this and the right wing dogma of the Tory Party is destroying their ability to win an election.
It is likey that labour will win the next election, this is simply down to the Tory party being unable to keep sufficient voters happy to win. We can discuss the merits of fiscal approach but the reality is that people now vote against things rather than for things. I think Cornyn understands this and the Tory party have yet to come to terms with this and the right wing dogma of the Tory Party is destroying their ability to win an election.
PMSL! Really? The tories have run every campaign for the past 40 years purely on attacking the opposition.
MS note was a statement of the bleeding obvious. A Corbyn Government with John The Marxist as Chancellor would be many times more distruptive to the UK econony than will be Brexit. Easy responce from Corbyn to say banks should be afraid, appeals to his Momentum core. Just a tiny bit inconvenient that Alasdair McDonald is a MS emoyee with a million dollars in stock rewards
@oldman well the polls (*) don’t show that. Tory vote is static and Labour are not making sufficient inroads to win more seats despite all the Brexit disruptions
What’s really worrying for Labour is Bristol Labour council planning a trebling of council tax for “the rich”. Leopards and spots. The Middle classes are well aware of the tax raid a Corbyn Labour government will bring
(*) yes I know but thats all we have to go on here
The city pays around £72B of tax each year
Ahaha! Are you lot still using that line of argument?
I’m sure the millions of people cast into poverty by austerity and suffering with lower incomes as a result of the financial crisis are deeply grateful for their largesse. The more this rubbish is repeated, the more people flock to the ‘marxists’.
(*) yes I know but thats all we have to go on here
150 😉
jambalaya - MemberWhat’s really worrying for Labour is Bristol Labour council planning a trebling of council tax for “the rich”.
Cite? And provide an answer to my query on the eu hmrc thread while you're at it 😉
[i]Clearly no normal person would vote for a Marxist. Normal people don't support a system that requires millions to die. [/i]
You clearly need to learn about the various political ideologies - because that statement demonstrates you presently don't have a clue. 🙄
SOURCE and proof please I am calling BS on thatAlthough banker bonuses give a cheap headline most of the wealth flows into the pension schemes etc that anyone not in the public sector will rely on in their old age.
SOURCE and proof please Also calling BS on thatEach £2B increase the government spends is around 1p on the basic rate of income tax or thereabouts.
Jezzas diatribe on MS was brilliant for the fact it had so many factual errors - it would make a Brexshiteer blush!
But McDonald is being sensible. Populism succeeds despite being BS indeed arguably because of it. Even he doesn’t understand what he is saying about borrowing and ruturnd so his safe with the voters. Offer free snake oil for all and Bob’s your uncle
Jezzas diatribe on MS was brilliant for the fact it had so many factual errors - it would make a Brexshiteer blush!
Cite.