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The markets move in mysterious ways https://www.hl.co.uk/news/2019/10/16/how-investors-weigh-up-corbyn-and-no-deal-brexit
They also clearly have no idea of what "far left" means. Corbyn is in no way far left.
Ouch!
Let me guess what the response will be
Neither were relevant to why she left the Labour Party, she purely used ‘anti-semitism’ as her excuse. She has form for throwing around claims of anti-semitism when she doesn’t get her own way or feels her opinions are in the minority. It’s quite shameful that she does so with such ease when, in doing so, she actually undermines the fight against true anti-semitism
Perhaps you should read this Daft lad, from the Jewish Voice for Labour? Or are they the wrong kind of Jewish people to listen to?
I think we know where you stand on this
Neither were relevant to why she left the Labour Party, she purely used ‘anti-semitism’ as her excuse. She has form for throwing around claims of anti-semitism when she doesn’t get her own way or feels her opinions are in the minority. It’s quite shameful that she does so with such ease when, in doing so, she actually undermines the fight against true anti-semitism
Is clearly you view for yet another Labour MP, thankfully without the allegations of exchanging sexual favours for political advancement this time
As for the JVL reference, anything that relies on a "detailed investigation by The Canary" as part of it's"evidence" is probably, ever so slightly skewed
I think we know where you stand on this
And it's pretty clear that you're one of these simple folk who can't tell the difference between anti-Zionism, criticism of Israel for its apartheid actions and anti-Semitism.
Daft by name...
AS mainstream in the Labour Party FFS she's off her head. How can you take anything she says seriously when she days that?
anything that relies on a “detailed investigation by The Canary”
Weird that you can say this yet swallow anything written in the Daily Mail 🙂
And it’s pretty clear that you’re one of these simple folk who can’t tell the difference between anti-Zionism, criticism of Israel for its apartheid actions and anti-Semitism.
Perhaps he can't in which case you can help him by explaining how calling Margaret Hodge and Ruth Smeeth were "Zionist cum buckets paid for by Israel" and "pieces of shit" was "criticism of Israel" or "anti-Zionism".
In defence of Corbyn on Brexit, he needs Brexit out of the way as much as Boris does for the same (electoral) reasons. He wouldn't be doing his job as leader if he didn't avoid amendments and try to find a way to allow a few of his MPs to rebel and let the deal sneak through. The fact he's a Brexiteers is not a significant factor to him. Anyone who's been in charge of anything will be aware that when you're the man in the hot seat you put your own prejudices aside.
And it’s pretty clear that you’re one of these simple folk who can’t tell the difference between anti-Zionism, criticism of Israel for its apartheid actions and anti-Semitism.
F
Quite a few current and former Labour MPs/ councillors/ activists must be "simple",
Weird that you can say this yet swallow anything written in the Daily Mail
Strange seeing as I don't read it or use the website, as you know what is on/in it you must be a regular visitor/ reader
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1185255941509451777?s=09
I like this poll 😉
Binners to the control room! Corbs needs some 6th form insults quick.
exchanging sexual favours for political advancement this time
no need to bring the Corbyn/Abbot affair into this...
I think we’re struggling with what constitutes ‘doing well’.
I’m a united fan, so by your definition we too are ‘doing well’.
We’re shit! Dire! *ing awful! A shadow of what we once were. Absolutely bloody woeful to watch, devoid of any creativity, direction or belief, sat mid table with the people at the top of the operation absolutely *ing clueless with **** all idea of what to do about it.Just more of the same rudderless drifting, aimlessly clutching at straws*
But when we get battered by Liverpool on Sunday, humiliated by our arch-rivals, and potentially sink into the bottom 3, by your standards we’ll be ‘doing well’
I think that’s what I love most about you Corbynites...
Your ambition
* You’re getting the direct comparison, right? Just checking...
I think we’re struggling with what constitutes ‘doing well’.
I’m a united fan, so by your definition we too are ‘doing well
Because like lots of self appointed experts it's daft to predict exactly what will exactly happen. I'm just pushing against the idea that he's completely finished.
Get it?
I think that’s what I love most about you Corbynites…
Your ambition
The idea that we/I am a Corbynite as some sort of insult doesn't fluster me in the slightest. It takes a long time to change things; especially in the face of folk like yourself a who don't appear to offer any sort of push against what is actually wicked about our country (apart from the fanatical EU love-in). Nothing else seems to matter.
We were very shit before Brexit, we will be very shit after Brexit - as long as the Tories helm the country.
See-the-big-picture.
Absolutely bloody woeful to watch, devoid of any creativity, direction or belief, sat mid table with the people at the top of the operation absolutely *ing clueless with * all idea of what to do about it.Just more of the same rudderless drifting, aimlessly clutching at straws*
I don't do football - the analogy falls apart for me.
No real ideology there either - just thick over paid blokes kicking stuff about.
Not really the same as supporting a political party is it?
If life was this simple?
We were very shit before Brexit, we will be very shit after Brexit – as long as the Tories helm the country.
See-the-big-picture.
Exactly. Brexit is really not that important in the big scheme of things. It is going to happen in one way or another and most people won't even notice that it has, there are a lot of dramatics around it.
The real harm is done by Tory policies and the propaganda that keeps them in power.
Brexit gives the Tories the freedom to do as much harm as they want.
I'd rather a Tory government in the EU over a labour one out of it.
Agreed. And the elephant in the room that is presently keeping them in power, somewhat unbelievably, is an ‘opposition’ that has singularly failed to offer an electable alternative and is about to gift them 5 more years to do god only knows what
I don’t do football – the analogy falls apart for me.No real ideology there either – just thick over paid blokes kicking stuff about.
Sounds like politicians to me.
just thick over paid blokes kicking stuff about.
how do you know they are all thick - that's the soert of generalisation someone like a rascist might make.
The thick ones are those that watch the stupid game...
Brexit gives the Tories the freedom to do as much harm as they want.
except that they can get voted out...
except that they can get voted out…
And voted back in.
Agreed
Wow!
Can I ask the failthful believers how they square the following circle?
Today, whether it passes or not, we are going to watch a group of labour MP's walk through the lobby with the Tories to vote in favour of the most far-right piece of legislation this country has ever seen.
A bill that will enable a Tory government to tear up workers rights, environmental controls and whaever else they fancy, free of the 'shackles of the EU'.
Those labour MP's will all have one thing in common. Corbynites, the lot of them.
Fellow knee-jerk Anti-EU,, 70's throwbacks. Bennite fellow travellors of the beardy messiah who could normally depend on Jeremy trooping through the lobby with them to vote down whatever EU legislation put before them. Voting alongside Mark Francois, Rees-Mogg, John Redwood, Iain Dnuncan Smith and Bill Cash. And but for a clerical error that ended up with him as leader, he'd with them today.
He's tipped them the wink anyway, that there won't be any real consequences. They won't lose the whip.. So its effectively a free vote. In stark contrast to triggering article 50, or voting to stay outside the custome union and the single market
Have a think about that. They're handing the Tories a blank sheet of paper to tear up the achievements of the labour party and turn this country into a sweatshop tax haven. And they're doing so with a tacit nod from the leader of the labour party
How do you explain that one away then? Where does this fit in with your much trumpeted socialist values?
How do you explain that one away then? Where does this fit in with your much trumpeted socialist values?
It doesn't fit with socialist values but Labour being in power with current policies does. The Labour MPs that do allow it are just MPs who chose Labour rather than Labour for any socialist ideals. A few of them have left, still a few more to go.
in favour of the most far-right piece of legislation this country has ever seen.
or far-left if Corbyn gets his greasy hands on power...
it's not far right - it's just your idea of what could happen - but the electorate have the power to vote a government out and change direction - unlike being able to change the direction of the EU as there are too many levels of indirection plus that half-arsed degressive proportionality thing
Those labour MP’s will all have one thing in common. Corbynites, the lot of them.
Go on then. Which ones? Campbell is the only one I know is definitely a Corbyn supporter.
Caroline Flint? Blairite who has repeatedly opposed and questioned Corbyn's leadership
Stephen Kinnock? The same
John Mann? A rabid Corbyn opponent from day one
Mellanie Onn? Resigned from the shadow cabinet to support Owen Smith's leadership challenge
Sarah Champion? Quoted in a documentary criticising Corbyn. "I don’t believe you can be a leader if nobody’s following you"
Lisa Nandy? Served as co-chair of Owen Smith's leadership campaign.
Gloria Del Piero? Resigned from shadow cabinet to support Owen Smith's challenge
Justin Madders? Supported Owen Smith and resigned from shadow cabinet so he could vote against the whip to oppose a second referendum
Kevin Barron? Supported Owen Smith.
Can you spot the pattern? I hate to say Binners but you're talking utter rubbish. Check your facts. Most of the rebels you think prove your hysterical fantasies about Corbyn are on your side. They are the ones enabling a tory brexit, not those on the left.
I hate to say Binners but you’re talking utter rubbish.
Quelle surprise! It's his raison d'etre, talk a load of cods and hope that no one notices.
another day in Corbyn's Labour Party
It's OK she's backed by Momentum
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-lgbt-west-midlands-metro-mayor-homophobic-salma-yaqoob-a9164741.html
"....just thick over paid blokes kicking stuff about...."
Remind you of anywhere? 🙂
https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/1186330553806675970?s=19
"Well, these two are only a little bit..."
Remind you of anywhere? 🙂
Ha ha. It was a sweeping statement.
Not every player is Eric Cantona.
John Mann? A rabid Corbyn opponent from day one
For sure.
His agenda is not so much brexit but more destroy Corbyn. Hasn't worked though.
He's going.
Binners cannot reconcile his logic.
I’d rather a Tory government in the EU over a labour one out of
But currently you're getting a Tory government out of the EU.
Why did you miss that one off?
Shah is no angel herself,
But this? Wow.
https://twitter.com/NazShahBfd/status/1186744130808041478?s=19
WTF is wrong with Labour?
[edited] Salma in the LP I see LOL happy days.
WTF is wrong with Labour?
Says Tory Boy!
https://www.hopenothate.org.uk/2019/02/17/state-of-hate-2019-conservative-party-islamophobia/
https://order-order.com/2019/10/25/salma-yaqoob-deletes-anti-zionist-tweets/
It's OK Owen Jones and Momentum support her,
the selective deletion of tweets is nothing to do with their contents.....
#NotACult
Nope. Not at all.
https://twitter.com/GeorgeMcManus4/status/1188090956890935296?s=19
The stupid, it burns!
What does the collective think about the rumours that Corbyn had had a stroke?
The fresnel lens in the right eye of his glasses suggests so.
Any truth?
Does having a wonkey eye impair your ability to govern?
If it hints at other brain impairments, yes.
At least the empathy part of his brain is still working well
Interesting dilemma for JC if he has to form a government with help from the SNP in some form.
SNP will only support him in exchange for indyref in year one. If Scotland goes Indy Labour will find it very hard to win future elections.
...but refusing power and triggering another quick election is also a bad look.
At least the empathy part of his brain is still working well
For the many, not the Jew.
For the many, not the Jew.
I see the media have you totally fooled.
If Scotland goes Indy Labour will find it very hard to win future elections.
Have you seen what the Labour party is presently polling north of the border? They're finished. They're a fringe party. Any election victory is going to have to involve seats outside Scotland, because they're history there now.
What does the collective think about the rumours that Corbyn had had a stroke?
Does having a wonkey eye impair your ability to govern?
Most PMs seem to have overcome impediments physical or otherwise.
Churchill government 1951 suffered a stroke in 1953 remained in office until 1955 replaced by Eden.
Eden worst PM of 20th century accused of lying to HoC over Suez. Private life rumored of affairs both he and his wife.
Replaced by McMillan whose wife was having an affair with Boothby over a thirty-year period and possibly the father of Sarah Macmillan. Cabinet included Profumo. Retrospectively he was considered one the most effective post war PMs. Cabinet rife with rivalries and disputes.
He over saw the decolonization process.
Replaced by Alexander Frederick Douglas-Home, Baron Home of the Hirsel. Enough said.
Replaced by Harold 'pound in your pocket' Wilson and his secretary Marsha. Was he a spy was he spied on and destabilized by uk security? Cabinet included George Brown who was a better orator drunk – frequently - than most of today’s politicians sober.
Edward Heath about whom it was rumored but never proved. Brought us the four-day week and membership of CM. PM post swapped between Heath and Wilson.
Jim 'what crisis' Callahan. Winter of discontent paved the way for Thatcher.
More affairs and resignations and dodgy deals. Privatisation Miners strikes Falklands selling off council housing and generally pissing the north sea oil revenues against the wall. And the crowning glory of council tax before they got rid of her.
Followed by Major and Edwina Curry. More sleaze allegations and internal party squabbles over Maastricht and yet more privatisation.
Blair short golden period then same old same old dodgy dealings and wars.
Brown, Cameron , May, fill in your own reasons.
Johnson a drunk and a coke head being held hostage by erg. Serial philanderer and liar.
AKA Boris Piccaninny Watermelon Letterbox Cake Bumboys Vampires Haircut Wall-Spaffer Spunk-Burster ****-Business ****-the-Families Get-Off-My-****ing-Laptop Girly-Swot Big-Girl’s-Blouse Chicken-frit Hulk-Smash Noseringed-Crusties Death-Humbug Technology-Lessons Surrender-Bullshit French-Turds Get-Stuffed FactcheckUK@CCHQ Johnson according to Stewart Lee.
So when was this golden period when our politicians where fit and able as leaders of this country besides never?
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What does the collective think about the rumours that Corbyn had had a stroke?
I think people should be less obvious about nicking ideas from the Trump campaign.
The fresnel lens in the right eye of his glasses suggests so.
These lenses are mostly fitted to correct double vision, which is mostly (not exclusively) muscle related. Seems to be a more likely explanation
I would find it rather comforting to believe that Corbyn and his team could hush up a stroke, it would suggest at a competence he is never credited with. It isn't like they have their fingers on the levers of influence over the media and institutions like the unashamedly corrupt tories have. However for the torie boys, which of the contradictory conspiracies are you going to believe? or are you really so dim as to just believe them all?
Bojo is king of the bufoons, leading the nation over the cliff edge (from the rear of course).
Before the election there was lots of talk of Jezza's glasses and 'muscle weakness' got cited as the cause[1].
I didn't give it much thought but I was talking to a guy who's had a stroke at work and he brought up weakness in his face which got me thinking... Are there any 'trivial' causes of "muscle weakness". Feels to me like "muscle weakness" is usually caused by something non-trivial. (When I experienced weakness in my legs I was in front of a neurologist the following working day which suggests the NHS take it pretty seriously.)
So is whatever's wrong with Jezza likely to be harmless or has he had a more serious problem?
If he had a major health issue during the campaign and carried on as though nothing had happened he's a bloody hero whatever you think of his political skill.
https://www.opticianonline.net/news/jeremy-corbyn-receives-treatment-for-eye-muscle-weakness
A Labour Party spokesperson said: ‘Jeremy Corbyn has a muscle weakness in his right eye which has become apparent in recent months. He is being treated at Moorfields Eye Hospital and thanks the wonderful staff for their care and expertise. He has been using corrective glasses as part of the treatment. He is otherwise in good health, is on the campaign trail every week travelling the country and runs and cycles regularly.’
Seems the mighty red Brexit Wizard has starting celebrating hard in (possibly) Morecambe and hit the brown ale so hard he has gone and "forgotten" that some of the very few remaining MPs that Labour can claim are losing their jobs today. (MEPs)
What a nice, principled Trot he is was.
Seems the mighty red Brexit Wizard has starting celebrating hard in (possibly) Morecambe and hit the brown ale so hard he has gone and “forgotten” that some of the very few remaining MPs that Labour can claim are loosing their jobs today. (MEPs)
What a nice, principled Trot he is was
Can someone translate?
In all the Coronanews it might have been missed that it's JC last day as leader.
He's bowed out with a letter to Boris Johnson offering a plan to improve the safety of NHS staff.
As ever with Corbyn, it's a great plan (if we actually had the items he wants given) badly delivered.
It's a 5 point plan, only, it's really 6, he just counted 4 twice, and got the address slightly wrong.
https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/1244993439181217794?s=20
Jeremy who?
Typical Corbyn, good riddance.
Step up Sir Keir!
Typical Corbyn, good riddance.
Step up Sir Keir!
+1
Labour party about to be back in the game.
Sorry, what is wrong with this letter? I don’t get what the problem is.
Can we not just say goodbye to him graciously? Even the Prime Minister managed that.
Can we not just say goodbye to him graciously?
We were. Nobody's even mentioned him on here for two months. Then he wrote a letter with a load of typos to get himself media attention at a time when media was largely ignoring him. (The typos are an obvious hate-sharing tactic.)
Finally!
Completely useless to the last.
Don't let the door hit your arse on the way out, grandad.
Unfortunately, I expect Barbara Ellen is probably absolutely bang on in this article in Sundays Observer: Yes, Jeremy Corbyn is still here and he’s still right about everything
grandad
Is grandad an acceptable term of derision/abuse now?
I expect Barbara Ellen is probably absolutely bang on in this article
That article was so full of fluff, it could have been you who wrote it.
Is grandad an acceptable term of derision/abuse now?
That depends if they're magic or not.
I'm just hoping the rumours are true that the first thing Kier Starmer is going to do is have a night of the long knives to clear out every last one of the utterly useless Corbynites, both on the front bench and behind the scenes, and actually appoint some people who are capable of finding their own arses using both hands.
I'm also hoping that involves firing Richard Burgon into the sun.
Sorry, what is wrong with this letter? I don’t get what the problem is.
Jeremy Corbyn wrote it.
Sorry, what is wrong with this letter? I don’t get what the problem is.
Well, apart from the obvious problems there's 2 points labelled 4. and he wrote Prime Minister twice in the address - important? I don't know, if I was writing a quick STW post, a tweet, a Teams message to my colleagues etc I might make the odd typo etc, but if I was writing a letter to the Prime Minister to offer my guidance at a time of international crisis, a letter which would be my last act as Labour Leader, a Letter I intended to share with my 2.4 million twitter followers, I'd make sure it was a bit better than that.
As for the content, it's pure 'benefit of opposition' highlighting lots of obvious issues that have been front page news for weeks, without any practical suggestion of how to achieve it, as if all the Government has to do is pass the "Full PPE for all 1.5m NHS staff now" law and as if by magic they appear, all in the right place, at the right time.
In reality he's just trying to knock the Government as a snide parting shot, if he had been that bold during his time as Labour Leader, he could be PM now, but he wasn't, he was too busy worrying about ideological purity.
+1
Labour party about to be back in the game.
I really hope so, but if I were them, I'd sit down and STFU for a few months unless the Tories try doing a bit of Evil or are glaringly ****ing it up - just chipping away, pointing fingers or worse saying 'told you so' as the death toll rises would be reprehensible.
it’s pure ‘benefit of opposition’ highlighting lots of obvious issues that have been front page news for weeks
Yeah - headlines for weeks but still no action by the govt because ... errr ... we didn't get the e-mail, that's it - e-mail. In Austria apparently you have to wear a mask to go to the shops. Hope they don't do that here or half the country will starve to death cos there are no masks.
But, typos, yes - well spotted. Finger on the pulse.
Yeah – headlines for weeks but still no action by the govt because … errr … we didn’t get the e-mail, that’s it – e-mail. In Austria apparently you have to wear a mask to go to the shops. Hope they don’t do that here or half the country will starve to death cos there are no masks.
But, typos, yes – well spotted. Finger on the pulse.
Was Jeremy Corbyn calling on the Government work with the EU he hates so much to get more kit?
PPE is reaching the NHS, my Wife's team had basic stuff, now they have much better kit ready.
Tests are being rolled out, as are anti-body tests so medics who've recovered can be safely redeployed to care for Covid patients.
See, it's easy to stand on the side-lines and knock the things that everyone knows are wrong, but what are his suggestions for fixing it?
typos, yes – well spotted
For many of us the problem with Corbyn was not so much his politics as his incompetence, at all levels and on matters great and small. Whatever. I promise never to mention him again.
Tests are being rolled out,
That's great - how many were done today?
See, it’s easy to stand on the side-lines and knock the things that everyone knows are wrong, but what are his suggestions for fixing it?
Step 1 is spotlight stuff so it gets moved up the priority list - obviously it can't go above "sit on the beach in the Caribbean", but maybe up there with "inspect artfully ruffled hair" or "write another piece of fluff for the Torygraph".
Third reply to Jezza on Twitter link:
Was Jeremy Corbyn calling on the Government work with the EU he hates so much to get more kit?
No, a different EU. Anyway it was Gordon Brown suggesting it in the first place and Jezza's just saying 'do what that Brown chap says'. Oh, plus, it's not really the EU its a "global" response thingyummydoodah.