http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00bvdts
Looks good, masculinateing the male onece more,doing the jobs to make us more of a man.
possibly. I'm a bit worried by statements like 'learn how to deal with the mysteries of romance and reclaim the notion of teamwork in a series of daunting challenges'.
Surely doing these sorts of things merely reinforces his original complaint? If modern man really is a proper man, he'd be doing all this sort of stuff naturally. Fighting a bear before breakfast would be commonplace., I was hoping this program would be all about proving that real men do still roam the earth rather than trying to educate some floppy hairs who own '3 day shave' razors and wear scarves in the manner of ladies into the ways of man.
just starting now...................
Er, what's fiddling with cars and DIY got to do with being male?
How f*ckn sexist!
Oh and the main reason men don't fiddle with cars so much any more is that they don't need as much fiddling with.
Not really sure if serenading is likely to work that well.
Might just be because I'm off my tits on Haribo but I quite enjoyed it.
manlab(full stop)co(fullstop)uk made me laff
When the bomb went off it looked like a big piece of something hit him on the back.
I so want that train set.
Er, what's fiddling with cars and DIY got to do with being male?
Things like this are generally classed as more masculine activities than feminine.
Really enjoyed it. Great fun, looking forward to the rest of the series.
got bored after 15mins and turned over, bit too much of the top gear format, FAIL
Er, what's fiddling with cars and DIY got to do with being male?
Quite a lot really, I'd hazard a guess that in most families the bloke does the bulk of the DIY & car/bike fiddling [if required] & the woman does the cooking/cleaning/shopping stuff - generally speaking, of course
How f*ckn sexist!
That's the whole - tongue in cheek - point of the programme
Thought it was a bit crap, didn't like the format of it at all.
"Let's make a mans kitchen, out of cement"
Yeah great that's exactly what we'd do.
Boring.
FAIL.
Drac - OK, since James May is probably reading this thread how about some ideas for his next series?
I'll start:
1) Whittling
2) Butchering a lamb carcass
3) Stripping and rebuilding a 2-stroke mower engine
4) Home brew cider/wine/beer
5) Clay pigeon shooting
6) Real shooting not clays
7) Building flat pack without using the instructions, men don't use instructions
8.) Building a WWII bomb replica
6) Real shooting not clays
Vermin shooting only. Real men dont pay to shoot game.
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How f*ckn sexist!
That's the whole - tongue in cheek - point of the programme
also I think the point was that there's loads of really positive stuff about being a man - a manly man if you like - that is really being rubbished these days and that's wrong. There's nothing wrong with a positive traditional masculine role model - a man who fixes cars, does DIY, cast a concrete kitchen, but also cuddles his kids, makes simple food...etc etc....
being a man is complicated. on one level you have to be the loving tender protector and fixer of all things, yet you have to also be strong and willing to fight, sometimes literally, for things. Tall order.
I can see this getting a roasting....
9) Build a bicycle without a torque wrench.
[i]being a man is complicated. on one level you have to be the loving tender protector and fixer of all things, yet you have to also be strong and willing to fight, sometimes literally, for things. Tall order.[/i]
F-off back to dadsnet.
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Lost it for me when he started telling me what sauces to put on a fishfinger sarnie... seriously, wtf does he know... 🙄
my 10 year old is very proud of his new whittling knife, which he bought with his pocket money. a proud dad moment.
Vermin shooting only. Real men dont pay to shoot game.
That goes without saying.
Lost it for me when he started telling me what sauces to put on a fishfinger sarnie... seriously, wtf does he know..
The fact he was calling it a manwich had me very worried, I don't think Manwich is the best phrase to use. Anyway a man would have a big fat steak sandwich not kiddies food.
I don't think Manwich is the best phrase to use
Dutch rudders?
Ermmm! Not really Stoner know kind gave me the idea he was talking of man on man love.
was ok ish bit tame he is normal a bit mor eengaging than that and trains set FFS how dull I went and washed up 😉
Got bored and went to bed after about 15 minutes. Sounds like I didn't miss much
1) Whittling
2) Butchering a lamb carcass
3) Stripping and rebuilding a 2-stroke mower engine
4) Home brew cider/wine/beer
5) Clay pigeon shooting
Been done, Southerners of a certain age may remember this..
I our house, Man's Work is:
1 Anything that is done in the garage
2 Anything to do with cars (including my wifes')
3 IT
4 Decorating and general DIY
5 Anything to do with the loft, including taking stuff up/down
But we do have a demasculinisation of the male, we have male models using their bodies as do women to sell us stuff, male dancers on almost every tv show, men wantiung to take the career choice of working in offices and it, as oposed to actual producing something, and finally men working in restrauntsand shops selling girlie stuff.
masculinateing
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demasculinisation
You're not a relative of Melissa from The Apprentice are you? Someone call the Collins Dictonary people - this thread is worth it alone for these words.
male dancers
OMG men dancing ..is this a recent phemomena 😯
working in offices
What like lawyers, accountants , stock brokers
Actually before I go on was that a sarcastic post or do you mean it?
You are a man because you have specfic genitalia. Whatever you do you are still a man be it flower arranging, boxing or riding a bike.
Man skills have been erroded over the years, we are no longer seen as the hunter gatherer, but as a servant to the state, men now employ other men to fix the car, or anything else instead of just manning up and doing it themselves with a few man mates.
There is absolutely no reason why women shouldnt work in accountancy, stock broking and other office jobs freeing up the men to work in productive industries,like manufacturing and manual work.
Does anyone know of a woman ever going into the loft ?
project bad news the 1950's are the past MTFU and live in the now eh 😉
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But we do have a demasculinisation of the male
Masculinity is a social construct.
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Man skills have been erroded over the years, we are no longer seen as the hunter gatherer, but as a servant to the state, men now employ other men to fix the car, or anything else instead of just manning up and doing it themselves with a few man mates.There is absolutely no reason why women shouldnt work in accountancy, stock broking and other office jobs freeing up the men to work in productive industries,like manufacturing and manual work.
That is funny, but at the same time manages to capture a concept called [url= http://eu.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-1405105852.html ]redundant masculinities[/url]
Never watched it, but purely on the narrow minded premise of I NEVER take advice on anything{let alone masculinity} from some **** who singlehandedly made it acceptable for middle-aged men to wear flowery shirts(maybe Alfie from Eastenders had a hand in this too), and have shoulder length blow-dried hair. Ponce.
Well said MussEd.
Didn't see this but it sounds a bit patronising.
Still, he's clearly carved a comfy niche out for himself as a professional "bloke", so good luck to him.
Watch Eastenders do we MussEd? BURN HIM!!!
Pook - I did, but stopped when Alfie left...
I'm not keen on society dictating roles to men and women. It may well be that men are on average better suited to certain tasks, but even if we were free from gender stereotyping we'd still tend towards what we were good at.
In other words, I like fiddling with cars because I'm me, not because I'm a man.
Oh and Mrs Grips goes into the loft, watches rugby and happily tows the caravan when the need arises. And I do the ironing because it's my clothes that need it.
You own a caravan you have therefore handed in your right to be a man.
I think you're possibly missing the points grips (and some others).
May wasn't saying blokes do [I]this[/I] and women should stay in the kitchen. He was simply making the point that modern blokes, in general, have lost a host of practical and impractical skills that our fathers, grandfathers and forefathers pretty much took for granted.
Which is true, but then try asking my dad how to defrag his hard drive 😉
I liked it 🙂
On one of my trails there is still legacy bombholes in a row.
When I'm building new track in the future.... at least I know how to diffuse a bomb with a 17e fuse.
Come to think of it I carry most of that kit he had in my camelbak anyway.
"Come to think of it I carry most of that kit he had in my camelbak anyway."
Really? A hand drill? Water pump? Fair doos you're well equipped 😛
He says most so guess he means he doesn't carry a cycle pump.
Aye, who would need something so specific on a bike ride. A tapered threaded etc etc needle on the other hand...
He was simply making the point that modern blokes, in general, have lost a host of practical and impractical skills that our fathers, grandfathers and forefathers pretty much took for granted
Fair enough, I didn't watch the show 🙂
But skills come and go. Yes, most men don't know how to re-seat valves and whatnot, but it's not needed any more. De-fragging hard drives or getting your iPhone to sync with your laptop - those are modern skills.
I don't know how to plant vegetables, butcher a sheep or hunt with ferrets. Many of my forefathers probably did. Not sure if it's such a problem to be honest. I am however slightly proud of the fact that my laptop is running efficiently, stably and securely.. 🙂
Nothing wrong with men dancing,
I used to go dancing and once tapped with both feet...although nothing too energetic as I didn't want to spill my pint.
Between mouthfulls of lager I sometimes would nod my head in time with the beat.
Oh and Mrs Grips ............... and happily tows the caravan when the need arises.
That's a bit cruel, is she in training for the world's strongest woman or something?
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