aracer - Member
He adds a veneer of superficial politeness to his sneering condescension (and this is one of the ways I'm judging him, not how he dresses - [b]I suspect most on here are unaware of the social circles I've mixed with[/b] and that I've had friends who dressed similarly and spoke with a similar accent).
Haha, that's hilarious... Social climbing humble bragging at its finest! 😀
You see sneering condescension; I see a remarkable clarity and succinctness that is lacking in other politicians. None of the plaintive, please-be-my-friend sales pitch you get from most MPs - he delivers his thoughts in a take-it-or-leave-it, no frills manner. His use of Latin or flowery speech are reserved purely for comedic effect which he does subtly and brilliantly.
I've been watching your posts carefully for some time now aracer - not because I'm some sort of stalker, but because you seem to gravitate towards my posts in an effort to try and antagonise me. I'm genuinely quite flattered. But I have noted a character flaw that manifests itself in your discussions with other people, and I think your interpretation of JRM are typical of someone with your personality: Probably a bit of an under-achiever, slightly higher than average IQ but average education, you have a chip on your shoulder and feel that you should be enjoying a far more fruitful existence than your peers by dint of your intelligence, and you blame a lack of opportunity and education for your mediocrity.
So when someone like Mr Rees Mogg comes along, fiercely intelligent and highly educated, your hackles rise because you feel that his status, wealth and success are purely a result of the background and privileges that you weren't lucky enough to enjoy.
Having read a lot of your postings, I have no doubt at all that you'd love to sound more educated - you make an obvious attempt do so and I often see you repeating words or phrases others have posted that you possibly feel sound rather grandiose or cerebral. So when you interpret JRMs tone as condescending, I suspect it's down to envy rather than any particular shortcomings of JRM as a politician.
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🙂 Absolute state of this. Bet you think Stephen Fry is a towering intellect as well. A stupid person's idea of what an intelligent person looks like...So when someone like Mr Rees Mogg comes along, fiercely intelligent and highly educated, your hackles rise because you feel that his status, wealth and success are purely a result of the background and privileges that you weren't lucky enough to enjoy.
I've been watching your posts carefully for some time now aracer......than any particular shortcomings of JRM as a politician.
Wowzers. How weird!
And what, pray tell, is one to make of a person who uses language like "Absolute state of this"? 🙄
And what, pray tell, is one to make of a person who uses language like "Absolute state of this"?
The absolute state of this.
Statum absolutum
And what, pray tell, is one to make of a person who uses language like "Absolute state of this"?
Someone who doesn't aspire to be a character in Downton Abbey.
Timendi causa nescire est.
Bellus endus?
Bellus endus?
How dare you Binbins!
Didn't you hear what he said?
Timotei causeway Nescafe est!
I'll ignore your ignorance on this occasion. 😉
Never heard of him 😆
Vaginitis Siliconosis
Bellus endus?
Ooh, look who's back with his typically useful style of posting... 🙄
Do you have anything sensible to add Binbin?
Musa sapientum fixa est in aure.
Vaginitis Siliconosis
Is that a condition common amongst people who use silicone bedroom toys?
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In a country where around 5% of the population understand any Latin, using that language to make a point is purely exclusionary.
Snobbery, to put it bluntly.
snobs on stw never!
Presumably, If you could use a language that absolutely nobody understands but you, then according to this principle that'd make you the very pinnacle of human intellect?
Have you ever been to Leeds?
In a country where around 5% of the population understand any Latin, using that language to make a point is purely exclusionary.
As I mentioned earlier, comedic effect... You only need to google what he says to get the joke.
In a country where around 5% of the population understand any Latin,
etcetera etcetera etcetera 🙂
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You only need to google what he says to get the joke.
I think everyone except you gets the joke.
It is comedic, quoting Seneca. JRM is not what I would describe as a stoic. I'd prefer him to be a peripatetic and simply walk away.
Also needing to google to get a joke is like having to explain it, which makes it very unfunny.
Dydy e ddim yn gwerth rhech dafad.
Oh look! Another language! Fiercly intelligent! Hilarious 😕
Dydy e ddim yn gwerth rhech dafad
Googled this. It is actually hilarious. 😆
Ken Dodds dads dogs dead
[quote=councilof10 ]Haha, that's hilarious... Social climbing humble bragging at its finest!
Sorry, wasn't meant to be - I don't place any status value at all on having mixed with such people. Presumably you do, which is why you thought it bragging? The reason I mixed with such people maybe, which is what makes the following the hilarious bit:
Probably a bit of an under-achiever, slightly higher than average IQ but average education, you have a chip on your shoulder and feel that you should be enjoying a far more fruitful existence than your peers by dint of your intelligence, and you blame a lack of opportunity and education for your mediocrity.
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I have no doubt at all that you'd love to sound more educated. So when you interpret JRMs tone as condescending, I suspect it's down to envy rather than any particular shortcomings of JRM as a politician.
I'm not sure why I should be envious of somebody who went to a university which is a complete dump 😉
The humble brag is right there if you can work it out - otherwise you'll have to stalk me a bit better, as I have mentioned my education on here at some point in the past.
I often see you repeating words or phrases others have posted that you possibly feel sound rather grandiose or cerebral
Or maybe I'm just taking the piss
I've been watching your posts carefully for some time now aracer - not because I'm some sort of stalker, but because you seem to gravitate towards my posts in an effort to try and antagonise me. I'm genuinely quite flattered.
No, I'm flattered that you've noticed - I have to admit I hadn't particularly realised I did, but then there are certain types of post on here which are fun to take the piss out of (whether or not such piss taking generates a rise - antagonising you isn't actually the intention [in case any mods are reading])
...oh and my interpretation of JRM's tone as condescending and his character as being an arse is because it is and he is - I've met plenty of people very much like him
Understanding Latin doesn't make one intelligent, it just indicates a type of education rather than a level of learning.
Using it in speech to hoi polloi is plain rude or inconsiderate.
If JRM is using it to make a comedic point, he's doing it for the benefit of his mates, not the poor saps who would suffer from his law-making.
Understanding Latin doesn't make one intelligent, it just indicates a type of education rather than a level of learning.
It's difficult to see the value in choosing to communicate through a foreign language of limited utility, other than to confirm that JRM is a dilettante, with archaic knowledge used in lieu of something intelligent, original or interesting. The councillor may wish to reflect on some words of wisdom from a certain Jedi master: "Who's the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him?".
Timeo Danaos et dona ferentes
is latin any more pointless than when people manage to type in phonetic scotts?
is latin any more pointless than when people manage to type in phonetic scotts?
Assume you mean Scots?
That living breathing language, spoken daily by millions of people?
As opposed to Scotts which is a breakfast cereal.
Frankly who cares, I'll probably go and google some quirky phrase and paste that next
Dinne ken laddie
Jings, crivvens, and indeed, help ma boab.
Gonnae gie's a plen ane ananinginaneana
I'm a ****in' genius
Anyone who wants to understand Moggs politics its pretty obvious in his voting record. Reactionary, anti human rights, far right of the tory party.
https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/24926/jacob_rees-mogg/north_east_somerset/votes
That living breathing language, spoken daily by millions of people?
Speaking English badly does not a new language make.
Moree worryingly when I see JRM - is that he bears an uncanny resemblance to a cousin of mine - down to the "what am I doing here" transplanted from the Edwardian era dress, mannerisms and language..
Nil illegitimi carborundum
Speaking English badly does not a new language make
Not new.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scots_language
perchypanther - Member
Speaking English badly does not a new language make
Not new.
a bit like that other widely known language of gordie! 😆
That theyworkforyou site doesn't half give a misleading impression - dreadful.
mefty - Member
That theyworkforyou site doesn't half give a misleading impression - dreadful.
What by listing how he voted? Want to give us an idea as to how it's misleading and not telling you how JRM voted?
