[Closed] Is there a good film we can agree on?

I’d suggest Star Wars but I expect there’ll be someone out there hating on it just to appear rangy and interesting.

Or just not liking it cos it's not their sort of film. Rangy!

Why are people mentioning films already disliked in the Bad not good/good not bad thread? Do your research!

Has anyone mentioned Point Break yet?

Or does it belong in rubbish films that are actually good?

I liked the 2000 reboot, Fast and Furious. 😉

are Jaws and Toy Story still unchallenged then?

Pulp Fiction

What about these classics. Who could possibly not like -

Bullitt

Thunderbolt & Lightfoot or

Bonnie & Clyde (1967 one of course) ?

or Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid for that matter...

It's a Wonderful Life.

If you don't like that then you're dead inside.

Some more suggestions

Point break (agreed)
The wedding singer
Taxi driver
Song of the sea
Clerks
Time bandits
See no evil Hear no evil
Starship Troopers

Taxi Driver is perfect from the sublime creeping score to the empty barrel.  Nasty stuff though.

With movies:

- Is it good?

- Do you like it?

Are two different questions.

Subjective objects vs objective subject is a non-starter.  It's of course right that there is no universal agreement otherwise art would be as dead.

– Is it good?

– Do you like it?

Are two diffent questions.

I, personally, can't believe people don't realise (or refuse to) that saying something is shit is simply a way of saying you don't like it. It's just another way of expressing the opinion. So it's not 2 different things.

Point Break is shit by the way.

I, personally, can’t believe people don’t realise (or refuse to) that saying something is shit is simply a way of saying you don’t like it.

Ah so deliberately confusing the 2 is a good thing? Perhaps those who do not like films could be a little more expressive. It's almost as if saying you don't like something is really hard to do, do you think people will think less of you for not liking something?

Why are people mentioning films already disliked in the Bad not good/good not bad thread? Do your research!

Research?

Phah, this is STW and it’s opinions we want not reasoned bloody arguments.

HTHs

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Ah wait, forgot my favourite (anti) war film  -The Deer Hunter.

personally, can’t believe people don’t realise (or refuse to) that saying something is shit is simply a way of saying you don’t like it.

I can believe that (rhetoric noted).  Though I wasn't generalising.

Additionally, I can also believe that some people don’t realise (or refuse to) that saying something is 'shit' is sometimes a way of saying it's shit

Ah so deliberately confusing the 2 is a good thing? Perhaps those who do not like films could be a little more expressive. It’s almost as if saying you don’t like something is really hard to do

It's not! It's easy! You just say it's shit. Not just films. Music, art, food, actual shit. Everyone does it.... there's just no point in being in denial. It's stupid*

*It's not actually stupid, but that's a common way of saying someone disagrees with you 😉

It’s not! It’s easy! You just say it’s shit. Not just films. Music, art, food, actual shit. Everyone does it…. there’s just no point in being in denial. It’s stupid

Thankfully I've managed to meet people who can actually describe things...

Heard an interview with a classical conductor who got asked about the music his kids liked, the interviewer was expecting the usual it's a bit crap answer but he said it was a preference thing, he could see how well it was constructed in many cases and how it was technically good just he didn't enjoy it.

Same goes for food and drink, had some amazing stuff that I didn't like, no way it was shit. But carry on being lazy there and don't get too upset where people misunderstand when you said shit but meant shit.

the wedding singer ??? TERRIBLE

But carry on being lazy there and don’t get too upset where people misunderstand when you said shit but meant shit.

I wasn't saying that's how I always describe shit. Just that it is extremely common and to not recognise that is pretty [i]stupid[/i]*

*see previous.

hang on, flicking through the list....have we not had:

Godfather parts 1 and 2 (even 3 was better than most films)?

Once upon a time in the West?

STW can't agree on 'what's shit or what 'shit' means' shocker!

Almost as if context is important yet language not so much 😎

And here are two French films that are not shit in any sense of the merde:

- Tell No-one

- Intouchables

A few Coen Bros movies mentioned in this thread, which reminds me of a lesser-well-known one of theirs which IMO is up there:

- A Simple Plan

A Simple Plan is good but directed Sam Raimi not Cohens. A bit too grim for me fwiw, though anyone can see it's excellent stuff (anyone who can separate their personal taste from ability to recognise a quality production, so most people then).

Pulp Fiction has to be a contender? Doesn't survive a second viewing for me, but seeing it when it came out, Hackney Rio, was a buzz. And pretty much anything by the Cohens. But then I thought 'no country for old men' was pretty much a comedy.

How about 'auvoir les enfants'?

Big.

RM.

Thnks, johnx2

and,

- Treasure Of The Sierra Madre

Essentially the same story yet from a different time.  Also ace.

Interesting this it's shit v I don't like it debate.

"It's shit" implies to me that it's a fact rather than an matter of taste.

"I don't like it" suggests that it wasn't your cup of tea but someone else may like it.

But I'd be as guilty as anyone when I'm in a mood.

For instance who could deny the Dan Ackroyd classic 'Nothing but trouble' shares the same DNA as dog muck?

Have to throw in Free Fire as a great film, a very different approach to a gun fight with some great actors in there.

Follow it up with A Field in England - only joking, that is not a film for most people, it's interesting and very dark

(one day I'll learn to spell 'coens')

Pulp Fiction has to be a contender?

Not with all the Tarantino haterz around.

And you'd never get agreement on the Godfather films either. Even though II is an amazing film with De Niro at his best.

Come on - Thunderbolt and Lightfoot? That's gotta be one, hasn't it?!

Worst suggestion so far - Notting Hill. I'm mean WTF!??!

Electraglide in Blue

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probably belongs in the cult films section though.

Oi; I said cult!

Heard an interview with a classical conductor

Shit music 😉

“It’s shit” implies to me that it’s a fact rather than an matter of taste.

“I don’t like it” suggests that it wasn’t your cup of tea but someone else may like it.

Where are the guidelines for something being shit for a fact versus opinion. I think I need to read them before ever having an opinion on something ever again 🙄

The Darjeeling Limited

&

Notting hill (again) because of the scene where MrFloppy walks through the market amongst the seasons & the scene where Goofy knocks on his door and utters those immortal words “I’m just a girl, looking for a bloke to love her”

Its sublime.

Where are the guidelines for something being shit for a fact versus opinion.

Well if its getting tricky try using I think it's shit over its shit....

Well if its getting tricky try using I think it’s shit over its shit….

The difference being what exactly?

Neither are saying it’s a fact. This really isn’t difficult. Something that one person finds to be shit can he liked by another. Nothing is shit for a fact. It’s all just opinions

Well one let's us know its simply your opinion the other implies you are the authority on it...

I’d disagree with that statement. I love the pedantry on here. Both are my opinion. Just because it doesn’t meet your personal rules (which I think are shit by the way) for expressing oneself through words doesn’t mean I’m claiming to have any authority. If anyone’s failing to grasp things here I’d say it’s you 😀

I think your shit 😉

I think your shit

I think your spelling is shit.

We’re all shit and Jaws and Toy Story are the only films that aren’t 😁

yeah, got to get them all out into the open....

Lazy criticism that you don't like something is one of those strange things in the modern world, people don't seem to be able to say I don't like something at all. They have to blame the thing for not being what they wanted it to be

A bit like the last jedi

If you want to claim something many other people think is good then give a bit of a reason, or just be lazy and go Shit

Shit

Shit

Bored

Shit

What a shit thread

Enjoyable though 😁

What a shit thread

Not good enough Dez. We require a nine page document outlining why it’s shit. You can’t go around having simple reasons for not liking things. Details man, details!

Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs

Fantasia

Debby does Dallas

Haven't been through the whole thread but has any one said Ferris Buelers Day Off yet?

Already struck off. Just Toy Story and Jaws.

Surely not.  Anyone dismissed The Princess Bride?

Just watching Leon: the professional now. For the first time in years. It truly is a great film. Oldman is amazing.

Re: the "it's shit" vs "I don't like". I can see (hear) that Amy Whitehouse is an accomplished singer but I don't like her work. It's not to my taste. Some people might take that disinterest as me saying her music is shit but they'd be wrong and misunderstanding what is actually being said.

Back on topic.

Really the criteria for the thread should be: you've invited a load of mates round for a few beers and there's a pile of videos by the TV. Which of the films should be chosen to please most people?

Weekend at Bernie’s.

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Debbie

 I can see (hear) that Amy Whitehouse is an accomplished singer

You can hear better than I can then, cos she sounds like a shit pub singer to me.

Anyway, that Amy film is ok, but not great.

Ferris Bueler is a kids' film.

I’ve always really liked

Harvey

released in 1950, but absolutely timeless classic

Debbie

Debz

That's a very different brand of porno 😉

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DezB

FIFY

Toy Story 3 has to be up there with The Princess Bride, shirley?

And the Wizard of OZ - who doesn't like that? 🙂

Wizard of Oz has musical numbers. Musicals are the devil.

Ferris Bueler is a kids’ film.

Ferris fails the ‘Don’t be a dick’ rule 24 times for every minute of screen time. I’m sure there is an extended cut out there with a post credits sequence. Said sequence is footage of Cameron’s funeral and his Father being arrested for murder.

Even West Side Story?

Especially West Side Story 😕

Willi Wonka and the Chocolate Factory (Gene Wilder version)

A Charlie Brown Thanksgiving

The Muppet Movie

Ferris Bueler is a kids’ film.

...and your point is??

A Charlie Brown Thanksgiving

Charlie Brown is awful American trash.

…and your point is??

Dunno about you, but I ain't a kid no more 😀

And if you're gonna have a kids' film:

A Charlie Brown Thanksgiving

Charlie Brown is awful American trash.

Thats quite a statement, any reason for the hate?

Oi! Deliverance! Watching it now... anyone not like Deliverance?!

It’s a Wonderful Life

La Haine

Life is Beautiful

Anchorman

UP . How can you not like that ?

Close Encounters of the Third Kind.

Amélie

Les Mépris

Cool Runnings.

/end thread

Cool Runnings.

/end thread

Can't, not sinit.

and there's no point listing Spielberg films. There are only about 3 I like. And they're not sci-fi.

Anyone mentioned The Goonies yet?

Nope, but being “American Trash” I doubt it will get much support..

Except from me becuse I grew up with it, thinks it’s ace.

Stand by me?

Gremlins?

Jungle Book (1967)

Cool Runnings.

/end thread

Can’t, not sinit.

Oh my word. Time to get a fundraiser going for you to own a copy. Thank me later.