Just re-reading my mortgage thread from yesterday and somewhat predictably, the house prices/earnings ratio being above its long-term average, has been blamed on Thatcher - before we've got to the end of the second page 🙂
Maybe we can call it STW's Law - the longer a thread about the state of the UK goes on, the greater the likelihood of someone blaming Thatcher 🙂
If there isn't, is it Thatchers fault?
There was, but Brown sold it at a massive discount a day or two after telling the market he was going to sell it.
stupid people blame others, the rest learn from our mistakes...
Thatcher, nazis, same thing
stupid people blame others, the rest learn from our mistakes...
Yes but people who blame Thatcher will be leftie's who look to blame anyone rather than taking personal responsibility for their own actions [/blue touch paper]
FWIW as I only really became aware of politics in the 90's so I blame Blair and Brown 😉 - it's the future of our blame culture.
Jonba
Progress, far from consisting in change, depends on retentiveness. When change is absolute there remains no being to improve and no direction is set for possible improvement: and when experience is not retained, as among savages, infancy is perpetual. Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
George Santayana
Look what she did to the jungle canyon rope bridges though!
I blame Blair and Brown
well, yeah, but if the whole political spectrum hadn't been dragged so far to the right, they'd never have got into power - and you know whose fault that is, don't you?
For the younger viewer such as Jonba:
I think the way it works is if you like what Dave and Gideon are doing with the place you would have loved her. Otherwise she is the Anti-Christ
I didn't think it warranted a law, surely it's more of a default setting?
I blame Disraeli!
Pitt the younger : What a bastard! 😡
What did the Romans ever do for us?
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(Picture is of a well known early King of Denmark, England, Norway and parts of Sweden. I blame him, even if I'm not allowed to link to his Wiki profile...! )
She marked the change between the socialist leaning politics / governments and the individual orientated politics which is sort of her legacy. Even Labour is now more Tory than they'd ever imagined they could be (back on the 70s).
What did the Romans ever do for us?
sanitation, the medicine, education, viniculture, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh-water system, and public health
+ brought peace...
Peace? Bah!
I’ve always thought the milk marketing board need an eye kept on them 😐
sanitation, the medicine, education, viniculture, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh-water system, and public health+ brought peace...
ok, but [b][i]apart[/b][/i] from that...
It is a bizarre rule that those who most admire Thatcher are also those who most deny that she left a lasting legacy.
Without betraying any hint of irony they will tell you how she fundamentally and dramatically changed Britain, whilst simultaneously denying that British society has been affected by her.
So if someone strongly argues that British society has not been fundamentally affected by Thatcher, then you can be reasonably sure that they deeply admire her.
Personally I think her personal contribution tends to be greatly exaggerated - by both the left and the right. After all she didn't even invent Thatcherism. And was unceremoniously sacked by the Tories when she was no longer of any use to them.
So for that reason I don't/didn't approve of the lazy strategy of personally blaming Thatcher for everything. It reveals a serious lack of political understanding, and of course it played right into the Tories hands. Saying "we've got rid of Thatcher, everything is fine, you can vote for us again", whilst veering evermore to the right, worked extremely well for them.
It's about policies.
Not personalities.