His attitude just undermines what sport is about. Can't think of a worse moment...something about his admission makes it worse.
No, Charlton beating Sunderland in the play-off final was far worse.
Exactly, football is a serious sport with real emotion and passion.
Road cycling is just men playing on bikes.
If anything, the Lance saga has made for alot of interesting reading.
no, the low life should not be given any tags, he should be removed from this planet
senna dying was my worst moment in sport
Honestly wouldn't make the top 100 worst moments. Intellectually I can see it's really bad, and can appreciate it's a major event, but just have no emotional involvement with pro cycling. I even love watching the Tour, but if they banned road racing tomorrow I'd fundamentally not be that arsed.
No.
It's pretty bad but England losing to the Hun on pens in euro 96 was the worst.
In a sense I agree. I wish he'd just go away.
Nope. Derek Redmond pulling up in the 400m pretty much had me in tears...
No. Nobody died.
Simonelli's horror crash and subsequent death far outweighs this.
Fabrice Muamba's near death and survival dwarfs it in terms of emotional load.
No, Charlton beating Sunderland in the play-off final was far worse.
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San Merino GP with Senna & Ratzenburger, changed my view of motor sport early in life.
More light hearted Newcastle losing the Premier League back in the 90's and 3 cup final defeats
My worst sporting moment was wheelying off the back while clipped in on a rock slab.
Hurty elbows, back and a wee dose of concussion.
Fabrice Muamba's near death and survival dwarfs it in terms of emotional load.
Wasn't that more to do with him being a young man, rather than a sportsman. The venue just made it bigger.
Couldn't care really.
Watching your team not turn up to Play Off finals at the Millenium & Wembley is infinitely worse.
I think that those who have been lost 'along the way' have to be the worst moments.
Cycling wise though the Jens Voigt crash in 09 was the worst for me, thinking that I was seeing it again after the memory of the the death of Casartelli (strangely and sadly poignant given the Armstrong involvement) - the similarity in the camera shots, panning to the right to see him on the floor and just thinking "oh god, please no, not again"
96 died at Hillsborough, that was a very bad moment in sport 🙁
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Looking at it objectively it is quite bad but for most people it was hardly a surprise so doesn't really have the shock factor
Nowhere near. It's a minority sport which shows few signs of taking doping seriously (see contador ban)
Road cyclist caught cheating? Not exactly a surprise.
Most sports fans see it as a filthy sport, which is a shame as it can be quite exciting at times.
Until we see a change in the culture (and there's no sign of it yet) of roadying, it'll remain so.
San Merino GP with Senna & Ratzenburger, changed my view of motor sport early in life.
This +1
I can remember watching that terrible live on telly as a youth, and then when I watched Senna for the first time it brought back a wave of emotions I suddenly got a lot of dust in my eyes.
Nope, I've thought he was a cheat for years. This opinion was gradually formed over quite a long period so his admission comes as not much more than a full stop to the story.
The death of Wouter Weylandt during the giro was a far worse moment.
Agree with the contador ban, UCI need to sort themselves out, life bans and massive fines equal to most of the cyclists wealth...otherwise always worth the risk to some people.
San Merino GP with Senna & Ratzenburger, changed my view of motor sport early in life.This +1
I can remember watching that terrible live on telly as a youth, and then when I watched Senna for the first time it brought back a wave of emotions I suddenly got a lot of dust in my eyes.
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Plenty of bad sportsmanship in all sports. Just so happens that doping was/may still be the way to express it in cycling.
Maybe the East Germans drug program was worse, but before my time. Lance certainly lowers my respect for everyone involved in pro cycling, past and most unfortunately present, sorry brad, you get tainted 🙁
Couldn't usually give a toss about sport but marco simoncelli's death messed me up for days. Even now when I see him racing in old vids it makes me sad for what could have been.
That would undoubtedly be my worst moment in sport, not some arrogant yank trying to pass the buck with the "everyone was doing it" excuse. Not even a decent human being never mind sportsman.
Agree with the contador ban, UCI need to sort themselves out, life bans and massive fines equal to most of the cyclists wealth...otherwise always worth the risk to some people.
Not possible unless WADA change their policy. Current research shows that the timed bans encourage people to come forward/confess as there as there is a route back especially if you were pressured etc. Life bans means confessing ends your career and drives things more underground.
Pro Road Cycling needs a bring out your dead session where people can confess and move on. Draw a line after that.
No, that documentary that was on recently - The Killer Years
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00z8v18
The piece where the English driver was trying to save the guy in the burning car while the rest of the field just drove past, pretty shocking. And more recent history, Simo's crash...
The death of JMC was also a much worse moment.
Another for Senna. I used to love watching him drive.
Senna was bad, but seeing Simoncelli killed on live TV was probably the worst for me.
football is a serious sport with real emotion and passion
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Marco Simoncelli's death 😥
Ah cmon Rorschach, they get pretty emotional when someone kicks them in the shin, real tears man, real tears 🙂
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Lance is just a sad man and a let down to one and all but no where near the worst thing to happen, sports related.
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The Lance admission is a complete irrelevance. Provided you've been keeping up that is - I mean he'd already been found guilty by USADA, and just to rub it in they'd published all the evidence so you could see for yourself. Only [s]hora[/s] a fool still thought he was clean after all that - plenty of us who'd been following things had realised well before the USADA case. So the admission really adds nothing at all to the situation - apart from to confirm that's he's a sociopathic liar.
Hence England losing the ODI to India a few days ago (as expected) is actually a worse moment of sport than Lance's confession.
O.k you got me there then.They are emotional,it's usually rage/anger and they do have a passion.....for money.
Roy Keane going walkabout in Saipan made my blood boil. Although the Lance thing will stop me believing in the tour.
Just to play devils advocate for a minute - Lance was obviously a cog in a machine. He won't have funded/implemented the total manipulation of his bag of bones. OK, he didn't have to do it, but there's a bigger picture - and yes he is a liar, but he's hardly going to admit it at first accusation.
Not defending him in the slightest, but as I said - bigger picture and all that!
No, [s]Charlton[/s]Sunderland beating [s]Sunderland[/s] Leeds Utd in the FA Cup final was far worse.
FTFY 😉
either that or dodgy ref in Bayern's pocket at Parc des Princes, 1975. we wuz robbed
Southgate missing that penalty in Euro 96 was my angriest moment but worst was the Simoncelli crash. I remember Senna but was too young to properly understand it.
I'm not really angry about LA. I get more frustrated when watching Newcastle United fail to turn up week after week.
As a Norwich fan the Delia " Lets be avin you" rant was car crash telly....( shudders) 🙂
Nope, my worse moment of sport was head butting the promenade wall hooked up to a 12 sqmtr traction kite, this, this is just like everything else these days, an overblown meejia fest. Not that I give a flying **** about Roadies or their pathetic racing, but it strikes me the dude just did what everyone else was doing in the period only he did it better and won. He still had to pump those pedals and I don't suppose for one moment those 'drugs' did much more than benefit his arse by maybe 5%, who even cares, all it's done for me is ruin a bit of Dodgeball the Movie...
Is road biking even regarded as sport?
Seeing John Cleland being taken out by Steve Soper at the final round of the BTCC 1992.
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96 died at Hillsborough, that was a very bad moment in sport
Quite possibly, but there's also this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradford_City_stadium_fire
I saw it happen on live TV in the hifi shop I worked in on Saturdays. Four of us stood in shock, unable to quite believe what we were seeing.
Agree with many of the above, esp Bradford, Hillsborough, Senna & Simoncelli, plus the Bobsleigh death at the Winter Olympics
This is up there too though, still painful to watch!:
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CountZero - yeah, that's a proper bad moment in sport. bad defeats pale into insignificance next to something like that.
I had friends who were at that game. luckily they were in the Midland Road Stand so safe, but seriously traumatised
I haven't been through this thread so it may have bneen mentioned, but my worst moment of sport was when matey deliberately pulled back someone's arm in a ruck last year until it broke. I should know the name but i haven't paid so much attention to rugby since. He's been selected for England and I am disgusted.(I'm nowhere near Tunbridge Wells either).
Marco Simoncelli for me, still upsets me.
Hamish that would be callum clark a vile excuse for a sportsman
For me it's entirely different to the various deaths and tragedies so I don't compare them.
It's calculated corruption, lying, and self preservation that appear to have no end. Deliberate acts that are entirely different to accidents.
So on a human level the Lance story is trivial in comparison but in terms of am individual's effect on a sport it is more significant.
Schummacher cheating Damon Hill out of being a double if not triple Champion.
Win at all costs, anyway..
cynic-al...that is where i am coming from. These death are truly terrible, but they are accidents. They do not undermine the sport in my eyes in the same way. I think you put the point very well.
Take the point about the deaths being accidents. For purely sporting travesties how about Ben Johnson, he was so pumped with stuff he was barely human. Marion Jones another athlete who was doped and ran for years winning everything. There are so many doping scandals across different sports it's hard to think of one which is the worst. Lance is up there with the worst of them though thanks to his ongoing lies.
He's only doing it so he can continue to ride competitively, but actually, the sensationalist news is probably intended to raise public awareness about the inevitable biography he'll be bringing out. Well he needs a boost in his retirement some how!
The man has no shame!!! A disgrace to cycling, bringing the sport into disrepute.
Totally irrelevant.
Just how does it affect my riding?
Pro cycling won't stop.
therefore to say its anything serious is daft.
I haven't been through this thread so it may have bneen mentioned, but my worst moment of sport was when matey deliberately pulled back someone's arm in a ruck last year until it broke. I should know the name but i haven't paid so much attention to rugby since. He's been selected for England and I am disgusted.(I'm nowhere near Tunbridge Wells either).
Calum Clarke. Now part of the England elite set up. It was disgusting and deliberate, but I dislike high tackles more. Clarke put the other players shoulder/arm at risk whereas high tackles can kill. One of the reasons I can't stand the boks.
Personally, every time he comes on the TV I find myself saying "Oh just **** off and die why don't you".
With some force.
100 grown men take drugs for 3 weeks in July ten years ago whilst riding bicycles on a jolly round France.
It sounds silly, because it is- it's bike riding, it's not important at all. Just a bit of fun.
100 grown men take drugs [s]for 3 weeks in July[/s] every year whilst riding bicycles.It sounds silly, because it is- it's bike riding, it's not important at all. Just a bit of fun.
fixed that for you.
Mark Hughes' equaliser in the 1990 FA cup final. On a more serious note: Heysel stadium.
Who is going to allow Lance entry to their event?
Watch the snubs.