[Closed] Is May about to call an election?

How about she should have resigned for what the cuts have meant.

Ok, I guess that's the confusion they're talking about. Man's a complete clown, a five year old could have got that message out without ****ing it up.

Ok, I guess that's the confusion they're talking about. Man's a complete clown, a five year old could have got that message out without ****ing it up.

I think he knows exactly what he said

its kept the debate on May getting rid of 20k police officers and whether thats made us all less safe

Ok, I guess that's the confusion they're talking about. Man's a complete clown, a five year old could have got that message out without ****ing it up.

3 months ago called, they want their 'Jeremy Corbyn is a hopeless joke' posts back.

They are starting to look more and more silly with every TV appearance and every new poll that comes out

At home, we will reverse the cuts to our emergency services and police. Once again in Manchester, they have proved to be the best of us. Austerity has to stop at the A&E ward and at the police station door. We cannot be protected and cared for on the cheap. There will be more police on the streets under a Labour Government. And if the security services need more resources to keep track of those who wish to murder and maim, then they should get them.

I think he knows exactly what he said

its kept the debate on May getting rid of 20k police officers and whether thats made us all less safe

It's got to be said, as rope-a-dopes go it's quite impressive. Corbyn has had May hook, line and sinker

If there was no election on would Corbyn be making the same call?

probably

So just to get the arguments out first...
All polls are rubbish
It doesn't matter that a poll had them 20 points up and now within margin or error
Polls are important and then when seeing she was 20 points up she called an election and is now bricking it

If she fails to deliver this originally predicted thumping great majority, as now looks likely, she won't last 5 minutes!

Boris.

You think Boris, post-referendum, has that many friends sat behind him either? He had his chance, was outsmarted, on account of being a clown, but more significantly, a treacherous ****! So he has now been permanently sidelined. I expect that he'll be back to being a journalist before too long, because his front bench days are numbered, whatever happens. You think he'll be a foreign secretary by the time the real brexit hardball starts? Not a chance! Neither will the other 2 buffoons!

I reckon the next Tory leader will be someone we've barely heard of. Someone untainted by the present post-dave Brexit/throwing away the biggest poll lead in electoral history shambles

This ^^^^^^

IME the majority of British people want a right wing dictatorship lite, once you get past the bullshit nicey nicey live and let live front. Making the right noises in public and seeming reasonable is so quintessentially British, one hand on the shoulder the other taking the kidneys out.

It's all about quietly ****ing someone else over.

I reckon the next Tory leader will be someone we've barely heard of.

There's a dearth of political talent on all sides ATM.

Talented people (Chukka?) just can't be arsed to endure high office.

I blame the press for making the life of all candidates miserable, plus the expenses crackdown. Expenses was the back door way to pay MPs a decent salary, now they just don't get a decent salary and quality candidates just go into the private sector.

I don't see any of this changing any time soon.

now they just don't get a decent salary

Yeah, the poor lambs start out with three times the average wage, then add on generous expenses and a gold plated pension. It's a wonder they survive.

There's a dearth of political talent on all sides ATM.

Talented people (Chukka?) just can't be arsed to endure high office.

I blame the press for making the life of all candidates miserable, plus the expenses crackdown. Expenses was the back door way to pay MPs a decent salary, now they just don't get a decent salary and quality candidates just go into the private sector.

I don't see any of this changing any time soon.

or imagine, politicians who actually have conviction and beliefs rather than a career path after a select few public schools followed by doing PPE at Oxford/Cambridge...

politicians who actually have conviction and beliefs

You mean like Hannan, Raab and Rees-Mogg?

Had the radio on all day today. All I've heard is stuff about police numbers, failures to follow up leads, and in a couple of reports a comparison of May's 'enough is enough' soundbite to 'brexit means brexit'. Even Laura Kuensberg has put the boot in. You'd assume that something like this would play to the tories strength, and Corbyn's weaknesses, but as with other issues, May is doing a great job of highlighting her shortcomings.

What station?

Sounds rather interesting if the BBC have chosen to run with that.

Yeah, the poor lambs start out with three times the average wage, then add on generous expenses and a gold plated pension. It's a wonder they survive.

The PM earns less than some of our (not even top) sales guys. Despite what the sales guys would have you believe I imagine the PM (and MPs under him/her) have rather more responsibility, plus a much shorter career.

Not a chance would I take on that level of responsibility for that money.

I imagine the PM (and MPs under him/her) have rather more responsibility, plus a much shorter career.

You're quite right: ex-PMs are often to be found grovelling in the dole queue.

Looks like Corbs is getting the hang of this campaigning lark:

He argues the election is about what kind of country you want to live in. "Do you want a government that will say to Donald Trump: 'You're wrong about climate change?'" he asks.

"I'll say that to him."

Cashing in on anti-Trump sentiment whilst at the same time being truthful (as it's not hard to be anti-Trump).

The PM earns less than some of our (not even top) sales guys. Despite what the sales guys would have you believe I imagine the PM (and MPs under him/her) have rather more responsibility, plus a much shorter career.

Not a chance would I take on that level of responsibility for that money.

Any idea how much Tony Blair charges for a speech or consultancy as a direct result of having been PM?

Sounds rather interesting if the BBC have chosen to run with that.

Was on radio 5. Just been in the car and they were still talking about it. Seems like labour are winning this one by keeping the focus on police cuts rather than Corbyn's supposed weakness on security. Of course they've been enormously helped by May effectively trashing her own record in the home office by saying not enough has been done. No doubt that's her arrogance and complacency showing again, they think all they have to do is say something and no one will scrutinise or question it. That may have been true before the campaign but not now.

Any idea how much Tony Blair charges for a speech or consultancy as a direct result of having been PM?

So you are saying that people are willing to pay more to hear him speak (with no consequence) than some are for him, or anyone, to lead a country....

Eh?

I'm saying that any PM is paid bugger all for the level of responsibility they have. Compared to after dinner speaking, footballing etc.

OK, and I'm saying that being PM opens up lots of money-making opportunities - it's not just about the salary they get paid while in office.

You mean like Hannan, Raab and Rees-Mogg?

While I don't agree with the likes of Rees-Mogg, I have respect for the fact he appears to have principles and beliefs that he sticks too rather than what he thinks would advance his career.

Just about sums up this election campaign.

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Here's maybot in a dark warehouse earlier today. http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/15329378.Why_was_Theresa_May_hiding_from_the_voters_in_a_dark_warehouse_on_the_edge_of_Edinburgh_/?ref=fbshr. And Ruth Davidson selling her soul to the maybot. Take a look at @AngrySalmond's Tweet: https://twitter.com/AngrySalmond/status/871765683364921346?s=09

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My god dazh that is seriously embarassing.. feel sorry for the poor woman.

It'll be an absolute travesty if she wins though.

How they presented the scenario in Daz' bottom pic in most of the media:

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lol shes on a bus trip round britian giving speeches to the same 40 people.

I'm going to have a punt on May not being the leader of the Tory party by the weekend

I'm going to have a punt on May not being the leader of the Tory party by the weekend

She'll be gone within six months whatever happens.

Unlikely the leader of the winning party will stand down?

Unlikely the leader of the winning party will stand down?

she'll cling on and ride the brexit elevator all the way to the bottom, dragging us all down with it

I'm going to have a punt on May not being the leader of the Tory party by the weekend

Good idea. Think I'll take a look at the odds. Not saying it's the probable outcome but worth a punt.

On Saturday I took 9/1 at the bookies on Labour winning the most seats. Looking around various forums and listening to what people are saying about the different parties, leaders and policies it actually didn't seem that much of a long shot.

After all, the bookies and the polls have been wrong on both Brexit and the US election in the last 12 months.

With a large spread in the polls it means a lot of uncertainty.

Bookies odds are as much about risk to the bookies as the probability of the event your betting on.

Unlikely the leader of the winning party will stand down?

I am not sure she will be given a choice in the matter. Might take 6-12 months but unless she pulls something rather impressive out of the bag the plotting is going to be underway. Particularly since there is no real way of keeping all the factions happy. Her persona of capable leader is badly damaged and various people will be thinking about another leadership contest.

kimbers - Member

Here's maybot in a dark warehouse earlier today. http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/15329378.Why_was_Theresa_May_hiding_from_the_voters_in_a_dark_warehouse_on_the_edge_of_Edinburgh_/?ref=fbshr.

I mentioned this on the Corbyn thread, but last week I literally just bumped into him in the street, walked up and had a wee friendly chat with the man, and so did anyone else that wanted to. He had a crowd about the same size as May's invited audience there, who just turned up while I was watching- actual civilians. No vetting, no minders, no fluffers, no closed doors, no cameras. The contrast is ludicrous.

Are you lot still doubting PM May? 😆

It's over - my vote has been settled (my mum received this the other day)

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ninfan - Member
It's over - my vote has been settled (my mum received this the other day)