[Closed] Is Brown still in power?

the PM remains in power until they resign or loose a vote of no confidence. Brown is technically running the ountry, as PM, so we dont have a scenario where we have no PM for obvious reasons.

Phew!! And relax...

define "power"

define "power"

Tells people what to do. Specially people like the police or army.

What do you think he's telling them then ernie (that they didn't know already)?

scaredypants - Member
define "power"

finger on the button baby wwwwhhhoooooo

What do you think he's telling them then ernie

All sorts of things............."I'm the big boss-man", "do this do that", "yes I authorise an attack on a Afghan wedding party which is threatening coalition forces", "get me a cup of tea"........

I was thinking more like "man the barricades", "repel boarders", "kiill theem".

GB is now Caretaker PM.

Dave got more seats but not enough to govern with the magic number as pushing laws will not be easy and parliment will run badly.

Lib dems can back one of the parties as it has enough seats to make the conservative the leading party and PM Dave or back Gordo.

Once we know what Lib dems want and then they can go from there.

Lots of possible outcomes and influence on policy, economy and speed of parliment reflecting on the country.

Lib dems likely to back Dave and Tory party for stability of country and what the tories will agree on the table...could be a good change or hell.

We will have to wait and see.

Brown is doing well as he has never won an election but still manages to be PM. Squaters rights!!

Ijust about remember the last hung p'ment....it was not good.

Im 18 so was able to vote for the first time this year. I will be pissed if lib dems created a colition government with the tories. I voted for them as to not get tories government but at the same time perhaps have some change. Bit of a wasted vote espcialy as tories won round here with a huge margin

Im 18 so was able to vote for the first time this year. I will be pissed if lib dems created a colition government with the tories. I voted for them as to not get tories government but at the same time perhaps have some change. Bit of a wasted vote espcialy as tories won round here with a huge margin

Mate, it would be equally as bad if LD create a coalition with labour.
My advice is don't let this put you off, keep voting for who you believe in. My constituency did and we got change in the end.

Gordon was only in power a couple of months until it all went tits up and he sold his soul to the Dark Lord. Mandelson is the one who has been in power for the last year anyway.

Mate, it would be equally as bad if LD create a coalition with labour.

Better chance of electoral reform though.

Plus you're going to get another chance to vote in the next 12 months when the coalition collapses.

Better chance of electoral reform though.

I will be pissed if lib dems created a colition government with the tories. I voted for them as to not get tories government but at the same time perhaps have some change.

The trouble is not that many people agreed with you.

I don't agree with you aracer. I reckon many people who voted LibDen, will like Dan67, be pissed off if that translates into Nick Clegg allowing the Tories to form a government.

Specially as the only real chance of proportional representation being introduced, is from a Labour/LibDen alliance - the Tories will never introduce it. And the reason the Guardian threw it weight behind the LibDems, is because according to them, "proportional representation" was the most pressing issue - even more so than the economy ffs.

No, I reckon they will be [i]many[/i] very disappointed people - if that happens.

Bit of a wasted vote espcialy as tories won round here with a huge margin

Not a wasted vote. Only a vote not cast is a wasted vote. You've exercised your legal and democratic right to vote, and therefore have taken part in the Democratic process. You've not wasted your vote at all. Feel proud that you've performed your civic duty, and done something many people on Earth don't have to opportunity to do.

I reckon many people who voted LibDen, will like Dan67, be pissed off if that translates into Nick Clegg allowing the Tories to form a government.

Come to that, how many people aren't disappointed with last night's result? I'd hazard a guess that it might suit about 1.7% of those who voted.

Lib dems likely to back Dave and Tory party for stability of country and what the tories will agree on the table...could be a good change or hell.

As said before PR will be a main issue. This is an almost once in a lifetime chance for the Libdems to change the voting system in their favour, the tories don't want PR period. I doubt Clegg will throw that out the window and incur the wrath of his party.

The trouble is that the situation isn't good for anyone, Clegg could throw his support behind Cameron, but who's to say the Libdems won't pull the plug on their support down the line? Same goes for a lib/lab coalition.

so you could quite reasonably argue that Clegg is simply going with the more popular viewpoint.

😕 Erm no, the most "popular viewpoint" yesterday was, "we don't want a Tory government".

It would be a very strange thing indeed, if a LibDem leader justified supporting the Tories on the grounds that they won first past the post.

This is an almost once in a lifetime chance for the Libdems to change the voting system in their favour

Singlespeed shep, Gordon Brown has won quite a few elections. We vote for our local MP in this country, and GB was elected leader of the Parlimentary Labour party (or not unelected) and is, or was, prime minister.
EDIT as the Tories have been trotting this one out as regular as clockwork- 'he's unelected', what about John MAjor?

Erm no, the most "popular viewpoint" yesterday was, "we don't want a Tory government".

Gordon Brown has won quite a few elections

as the Tories have been trotting this one out as regular as clockwork- 'he's unelected', what about John MAjor?

Neil Kinnock was elected leader of the Labour party!?
Whats yor point
Its not America, you dont vote for the presedent
John Major wasn't 'elected' Prime Minister, Its not how this country works, but the Tories seem to have forgotten that. He won his seat and was made leader of the the Tory party when they couldnt hack the old witch any more, just like Gordo, when they'd had enough of Blair
Sorry if you dont like it but thats how it is

The first most popular viewpoint was "we don't want a LD govt"

I think you'll find that more popular than that, was "we want a Labour/ LibDem government"

When there isn't a clear majority of seats belonging to parties who'd definitely support such a change?

I think there probably is actually. I think it's fair to say that Labour would now support change, which gives "a clear majority of seats belonging to parties who'd definitely support such a change"

Although for decades many within the Labour Party have supported PR, it is now supported at the highest level. And not only as a result of yesterday's election - Alan Johnson a year ago :

[url= http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article6355254.ece ]Britain must have root-and-branch reform of its constitution — and a referendum on proportional representation[/url]

I think you'll find that more popular than that, was "we want a Labour/ LibDem government"

I think you'll find that more popular than that, was "we want a Labour/ LibDem government"

Oh, and whilst I'm here, a <whoosh> for colnagokid.

I think there probably is actually.

All sat there saying "we don't want FPTP system" but thinking "thank F*** for FPTP, we may be able to weasel some power out of this despite what the voters think".

Lib Dem came well down the table for number of votes, yet they seem to hold all the cards?!?
It's a funny old system. The voters have clearly shown that they dont want a Lib Dem government, yet they seem very close to having a sniff of power, albeit shared.

Mind you, "not a Green government" did even better

The last thing I would ever ever claim on here, was that my political views were in line with that of the general population........it's going to be a while before that happens.

So what's your point caller ?

The last thing I would ever ever claim on here, was that my political views were in line with that of the general population........it's going to be a while before that happens.

I'm sure they'll get round to reprogramming you soon.

There is no need to be rude fella 😐

colnagokid - Member

Singlespeed shep, Gordon Brown has won quite a few elections. We vote for our local MP in this country, and GB was elected leader of the Parlimentary Labour party (or not unelected) and is, or was, prime minister.

Was a tongue in cheek comment.

Confused result with no winners. If LibDems had done a bit better and Cons a bit worse it would be a LibLab coalition and PR in a year. All those folk who queued up to vote Con at the last minute prevented this.
The politicians have to make some sense of it while working in the national interest. The most responsible thing for Nick to do is forget PR and make a stable alliance with Dave (gnashes teeth) IMO.

Confused result with no winners.

Seems to me that the real winners in all of this - are the party which came third in the election.

Because everybody seems to agree that whilst it is uncertain whether the Tories or Labour will be involved in the next government, it's a certainty that the LibDems will be involved.

It's a no lose situation for the LibDems .........haven't they done well out of our unfair electoral system ?

Better get ready for all the farce to be replayed about October time!

There's no way this is going to be pretty for us!

There is no need to be rude fella

"BREAKING NEWS

Liberal Democrat sources have told the BBC's Jon Sopel that Gordon Brown delivered a diatribe laced with threats when he spoke to Nick Clegg last night by phone. It was in sharp contrast to the respectful and constructive talk between David Cameron and Mr Clegg, they added."

Bye-bye Gordon, you useless git 😀

I was just coming back on to post the same thing myself! So he can't even get power sharing talks right?

Jon Sopel that Gordon Brown delivered a diatribe laced with threats when he spoke to Nick Clegg last night by phone.

Probably by far and away the best strategy. Now Clegg will be forced into a weak alliance with a weak Tory government.

The soon to be staged Queen's Speech, will for the first time, reveal to the British people the full horrors of what the Tories plan to do - they won't be able to hide their policies from the British people any longer.

Support for the Tories will plummet, civil unrest will occur with strikes and massive demonstrations. War will break out within the Liberal Democrats as it's left-wing speaks out, and the public turns away in disgust at the sight of them propping up a Tory government and, the realisation that the LibDems are no alternative to Labour.

Eventually the government will be forced into an early general election, and Labour win on a massive vote.

Has the wily old ****er [i]really[/i] told Clegg to go and get stuffed ? 😀