[Closed] Is anyone on here planning to vote UKIP?

I have already postal voted two days ago.

Yes, I have voted for UKIP for MEP due to good entertainment value.

Voted Tories too to a Labour/Lib dem council stronghold.

Always vote the opposite to those in power.

im assuming you mean at the euro elections

no and no

heres there cycling bit from when they had a manifesto

10.2 We believe that there needs to be a better balance of rights and responsibilities for pedal cyclists, with too much aggressive abuse of red lights, pedestrian crossings and a lack of basic safety and road courtesy.
10.6 UKIP would consult on the desirability of minimum third party liability insurance cover for cyclists - a simple annual flat rate registration ‘Cycledisc’, stuck to the bicycle frame, to cover damage to cars and others, which are currently unprotected. The Cycledisc should also carry clear identification details, which will help counter bicycle theft, and deter dangerous cyclist behaviour. We support provision of cycle parking at
reasonable charges.
10.7 UKIP believes that basic cycle and safety training should be made mandatory, and be funded in schools or via local authorities. UKIP supports the campaign work of national cycling organisations.
10.9 Local authorities should be given additional powers to enforce a ‘cyclists dismount’ or ‘no cycling’ regulation where there are safety concerns – such as on busy roundabouts, junctions or bus lanes, or where the road would be too narrowed by cycle lanes and cause
unacceptable delays to traffic
http://road.cc/content/forum/77338-ukip-policies-bikes

No

Always vote the opposite to those in power.

and they say the right to vote is a good thing.

in answer to the OP - No

Yes, of course.

Apparently... 😉

I have no need, Im guessing most of the people round here will be voting for UKIP already 🙄

Someone wrote 'Vote UKIP!' on my bin while it was out in the street. I left it and took someone else's.

Hope that helps.

No. Green.

No

heres there cycling bit from when they had a manifesto

Don't like what was in the UKIP manifesto ? Don't worry, Nigel has that covered :

[i]Mr Farage said he had already acknowledged that much of the manifesto was "nonsense" and UKIP had gone back to a "blank sheet of paper" in terms of its preparations for the next election in 2015.

He claimed the document was nothing more a collection of disparate policy papers.[/i]

So there you have it - if you don't like UKIP policies then don't worry about it because Nigel Farage agrees with you.

[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-25879302 ]Nigel Farage: 2010 UKIP manifesto was 'drivel'[/url]

It's safe to vote UKIP because they don't have any policies.

I suspect I'll just draw a knob on the ballot paper this time round. It's sad but there isn't a single worthwhile candidate.

That's arguably the best thing you've ever posted, ernest. 😆

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I always assumed that saying you were going to vote UKIP would be analogous with saying you were off for a special moment by yourself for a bit. Unlikely to be actually said out loud...

Rachel

I found out that my Dad is voting Ukip at the weekend. I was pretty surprised, and when I pointed out that they're a bunch of loonies he kind of agreed but said 'I don't want to be part of the European Union, so Ukip it is.' When I asked if he'd vote for them I'm a general election he said 'you must be kidding!'

Always vote the opposite to those in power.

There should be some sort of test question on the ballot paper to make sure people are intelligent enough to vote.

I'm not, but I'm struggling to restrain myself from telling my yoghurt weaving lefty bed wetter cousin to stop going on and on about UKIP on Facebook - particularly to point out that she's the only person I know who is constantly drawing attention/giving publicity to UKIP and the BNP.

I think its probably about showing everyone how right on she is. Like the Modern Parents out of the Viz.

It's safe to vote UKIP because they don't have any policies.

Are you muddling them up with the SNP?

As thier popularity increases I think someone needs to counter that, so No.

Sad as this may seem, my vote will be defaced in protest.

I think I'll vote for the party with the biggest percentage in the opinion polls that isn't UKIP (proportional representation for the euros I think?).

Was it Churchill that said "If necessary, we will cooperate with the devil to get shot of UKIP"?

Edit: the above statement on voting excludes other racist / fascist / extreme right wing types of course

I was going to based on purely a couple of issues but like any grown up I checked a lot more of their manifesto and they're as mad as a box of frogs!
Now busy reading other manifestos and mushroom policies!

Amusingly, one of the neighbours of our (Tory) MP has put a huge VOTE UKIP sign on the front of his house

No, my local [s]UKIP[/s] barking mentalist is a chap called Mark Dobrzanski who doesn't have a good Suffolk name. Born local but wants to remove the advantages his parents enjoyed from anyone else.

No. Green.

This.

It's a pity there isn't a responsible, realistic alternative to the usual suspects to vote for.

It used to be LibDem, but they have shot their bolt now. BNP are great for casual racists and closet Nazi's

Greens are too wholemeal; treehugging earthmuffins with only one idea.

Who can you vote for?

If you look at the UKIP's website, it states that the UKIP would "[i]Make sentences mean what they say.[/i]"

It turns out that this is a policy to "[i]safeguard against crime[/i]" rather than to "[i]safeguard against ambiguity and vagueness in language[/i]". Which is a pity. I dislike double entendres, double meanings, new-speak, waffle, management jargon, long words and dissembling.

If the UKIP were really serious about making sentences mean what they say they could count on my vote in the European Parliamentary elections on 22 May.

It's crossed my mind as a protest vote, as I have issues with EU interference in some areas, rather than an immigration issue.

However, living in the constituency that made Kilroy-Silk an MEP makes that risky! also, hypocritical of them to claim EU expenses without making any real positive input to the Parliament.

No idea who I will vote for though

ScottChegg - Member

Greens are too wholemeal; treehugging earthmuffins with only one idea.

but they mean well, and as protest votes go, it's a lot better than drawing a cock and balls on your ballot paper.

it's not a very "green" protest vote !
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Given that the press reports that the average man/woman in the UK street wants out of the EU, also our Prime Minister has stated that unless the EU reforms, what ever that means, then he will offer the average man/woman in the UK street a referendum on ‘in/out’, again what ever that means!

Does anyone here honestly think that Europe cares one jot who we vote for? I can vote and I don’t!

The French tried a protest vote in 2002. Somewhat backfired when they voted so much for the far right candidate in the first round they guaranteed that Jacques Chirac (a bloke loads of them hated) won the second round by a landslide. If people are dumb enough to vote UKIP as a protest, they get what they deserve.

Given that the press reports that the average man/woman in the UK street wants out of the EU

But what do they want out of really? Do they even know what the EU means or is it some vague concept of evil control by Johnny Foreigner?

I want to stay in Europe. I like being a European. And I like I can work in France or Spain if I want.

UKIP can **** right off.

Green for me, tbh I don't agree with some of their stuff and they do look like you would expect but the other options are worse.

I do however understand why people would vote UKIP and think it just shows what a bunch of corporate lackeys the red and blue eton boys have become.

I want to stay in Europe. I like being a European. And I like I can work in France or Spain if I want.

UKIP can **** right off.

This.

I would cut off by own balls before I would vote for those shower of shites!

Been a Labour man all my voting life but the shower in @ the moment do nothing for me! Green Party it is!

No

+1 for Green.

And if UKIP really do win the Euro elections, I'll be voting Yes in September too.

I haven't decided who I'll be voting for but it certainly won't be UKIP.

They just seem to point out a lot of issues and problems and not have any solutions to them.

I found out that my Dad is voting Ukip at the weekend. I was pretty surprised,

me too, senility can be the only answer

I find Farage mildly amusing on the telly in the same way as i find, in the same way as Harry Hill can be slightly amusing

Wouldn't dream of voting for him though!!

Statistics suggest 30% of STW-ers will vote UKIP.

Do not underestimate the support UKIP has and the reasons behind it.

I see again more posts here trivialising UKIP support. It's is a mistake to underestimate them and to attack the party and it's supporters as "racists or loonies".

I predict UKIP will have a strong showing at the EU elections and that dealing with them politically will become the number 1 agenda item for Labour and the Tories.

I see again more posts here trivialising UKIP support. It's is a mistake to underestimate them and to attack the party and it's supporters as "racists or loonies".

This.

Let's not shame ourselves as a country by showing the world we're idiotic enough to vote for these ****s.

I see again more posts here trivialising UKIP support. It's is a mistake to underestimate them and to attack the party and it's supporters as "racists or loonies".

This.
Let's not shame ourselves as a country by showing the world we're idiotic enough to vote for these ****.

Personally I think UKIP, if they organised themselves properly, could surprise a lot of people and gain some power. In no way am I underestimating them. Calling them racists is not inaccurate. They are to a man, "or woman, Reg" a horrible nasty bunch of ****s and the sooner we show them for what they really are the better.

Green for me. And not as a protest.

Isn't a UKIP MEP a bit of a nonsense?

The only posters I have seen so far are UKIP ones. Surprised that people would want to advertise their allegiance but each to their own. When will the other parties respond?

No UKIP of BBC QT for a change this week. Got the SNP instead.

As I work for the English arm of a German company NO I won't be voting for ukip also I've voted labour all my life and that is NOT about to change 8)

I actually persuaded someone not to vote for them.
My reasoning was that Ukip are the top of a very slippery slope that we shouldn't even go near.
Told her I was voting for the Peace Party as among other things they want to decriminalize drugs as keeping them illegal hasn't worked. Neither of us do drugs but that's sensible.

I've voted labour all my life and that is NOT about to change

I have no idea how long your life has spanned but for a lot of people Labour has changed beyond recognition to the party by the same name that they first voted for.

jambalaya - Member
Statistics suggest 30% of STW-ers will vote UKIP.

Where on STW do you get that 30% from? 😯

Mr Woppit - Member
Yes, of course.
Apparently...

As far as I know [u]I am the only one voting UKIP[/u] on this thread but I am not sure about Mr Woppit as his answer is a bit vague. 😆 I am the only UKIP voter in the village.

You lot are dangerous ... 😈

Nonsense, many will vote for UKIP, it's just that unlike you they won't admit it.

I admire your strength, courage, and tireless devotion to what you believe in.

Laugh at UKIP all you like, but remember that Hitler was voted in to power with the biggest majority in German electoral history.

Apathy is just as dangerous as extremism. Use your vote, whoever you vote for.

ernie_lynch - Member

I admire your strength, courage, and tireless devotion to what you believe in.

There are closet UKIP voters on STW? 😯

Nonsense, many will vote for UKIP, it's just that unlike you they won't admit it.

They will stone you to death for making such statement. 😆

MoreCashThanDash - Member

Laugh at UKIP all you like, but remember that Hitler was voted in to power with the biggest majority in German electoral history.

I wonder what will happen if Labour gets to be govt for 3 generations? (not 3 terms but 3 generations from grandparents to grand children) Will that be a good idea? 😯

remember that Hitler was voted in to power with the biggest majority in German electoral history.

No he wasn't. In the November 1932 general election the Nazis won 196 seats in the Reichstag, 97 short of a majority, and 34 less than they had previously.

Two months later in January 1933 Hitler became chancellor. He was not elected to power because of a Nazi majority in the Reichstag but was appointed to power by President Von Hindenburg.

After the Enabling Act of March 1933 Hitler consolidated his power and increased Nazi representation in the Reichstag by banning opposition parties. But he was already in power by then.

Hitler was not elected to power, he was appointed.

ernie_lynch - Member
Hitler was not elected to power, he was appointed.

Aye.

MoreCashThanDash is turning into a spin machine! 😆

Stalin was "voted" in ... 😆

Never let facts get in the way of a good story.....

I'll certainly be voting for them, a jolly good bunch of chaps with a healthy slice of common sense to boot! I'll be making my mark against their probritish entry on the ballot, just as soon as I've figured out how to operate these confounded new bironic scribes.

footflaps - Member

Never let facts get in the way of a good story.....

Who are you voting for? 😆

You need to give straight answer.

thestabiliser - Member

I'll certainly be voting for them,...

So that makes 2 and the half UKIP voters so far 😆

I'll be voting Green, for my mate Will, who is the lead candidate in the West Midlands.

On the basis that I want to vote for the strongest challenger to ukip, is there somewhere that gives the odds for local and euro elections?

I'm sorry if I have inadvertently repeated an urban myth, rather than a fact, my mistake.

As for Labour getting in for 3 generations, I think their 13 years, and the Tories 17 years before that, showed conclusively that power for any party for more than two terms causes them to completely lose touch with the people who voted for them.

I was chatting about this at work the other day, if we left the EU we'd go bust pretty much overnight. So no, I won't be voting UKIP, funny that.

Also they're all completely and utterly ****ing mental and absolutely vile, as should be completely obvious to any being with even the dimmest glimmering of consciousness. If you want to make a protest vote, write "NOBS!" on the ballot paper or something, jeez.

Green for me if I can. If not probably Lib dems again.

Not bloody UKIP any way. Fricken loons....

Who are you voting for?

You need to give straight answer.

No one, it appears we're mountain biking in Laguria with Saddle Skedaddle next week and forgot to arrange postal votes....

I wouldn't vote UKIP because they seem so anti-cycling. However I've just looked at their website and can't seen any sign of the racism that everyone gets so hysterical about.

Happy to admit I'm wrong if it is there, but can't spot it myself.

As for the stuff on law and order, got to admit I agree with much of it. Some of their other stuff I don't agree with mind you.

I'll judge UKIP the same way I judge every party ie see how many of their policies I agree with in areas I think are important.

On the basis that I want to vote for the strongest challenger to ukip, is there somewhere that gives the odds for local and euro elections?

All you need to do is look at the election results for your area last election and simply vote for the party which had the largest support.

Click on your region at the top of the page here :

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/elections/euro/09/html/ukregion_35.stm

And your council here :

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/elections/local_council/09/html/region_99999.stm

On the basis that I want to vote for the strongest challenger to ukip, is there somewhere that gives the odds for local and euro elections?

The way the voting works, it's not that simple - because it's not first past the post, there is no "vote for X to block Y" at the moment, it is likely that UKIP will get MEP's in most regions based on polling with the exception of Scotland - but you need to look at how the balance of votes will work out from the polling through the D'Hont calculations - e.g. voting for a major party which is already likely to return candidates means that it's unlikely to block anything, but voting for a smaller party is more likely to push it up to take a seat - the purpose of the party list system is to remove a lot of the tactics, there is no minimum electoral threshold, which can introduce some tactics to the system. Generally, under the system in use, it's best to just vote for the party who you want, and if there is more than one, vote for the one which is likely to get less votes, as yours will likely to count for more by the end of it.

It's still first past the post for local elections.

And if the opinions polls are correct Labour, Tory, and LibDems are likely to be "minor parties". Certainly LibDems and probably Tories.

Green

There's a lot of Green voters about today. I am too btw, and it's making me feel uncomfortably mainstream.

I'm pro Europe so no - though I would like to see us align more closely with Scandinavia is that was possible. Perhaps a new Hanseatic League?

Pimpmaster Jazz - Member

I want to stay in Europe. I like being a European. And I like I can work in France or Spain if I want.

With 25% unemployment in Spain I'm not sure you'd find it that easy. 😆

I'm not a fan of the European superstate, but

UKIP can **** right off.

In fact they can all **** off. Never before in my life have I been so certain of the ineffectual nature of my vote.

MoreCashThanDash - Member

I'm sorry if I have inadvertently repeated an urban myth, rather than a fact, my mistake.

As for Labour getting in for 3 generations, I think their 13 years, and the Tories 17 years before that, showed conclusively that power for any party for more than two terms causes them to completely lose touch with the people who voted for them.

So your rationale sounds like Tories will be in power for another 2 terms at least then everyone will switch to Labour again 😆 So why are people so afraid of UKIP I have no idea. Hardly any impact at all.

I don't get all this nonsense floating around about "protest votes".
Fair enough at GE time, when the system - with the "safe seats" - means that people can spend their whole life voting but never actually have a say about who governs them. That's the time to "protest vote".

But for the Euro elections it's PR so a vote for who you actually want counts towards them possibly getting some seats. But you rarely hear that from the media, it's like they wouldn't want it to catch on and gain public support.

Anyway, point is would never waste a PR vote on a "protest".
I'll probably join the STW mainstream and go Green, they need to up their % from 9 to 10 where I am to get a seat, so it could make a difference.
Wouldn't rule out voting UKIP at general election time when that comes round next, though.
I feel a bit backed into a corner as principles say don't back anyone that's ****ed you over before, ruling out Lab, Cons, and Libdems. But no-one else has a chance round here - Maybe a "protest vote", or maybe a "protest non-vote" might be better

With 25% unemployment in Spain I'm not sure you'd find it that easy.

😆

True. Could be worse though - I could want to work in Greece... (Lived there for three months - that was enough)

I did apply for a job in Barcelona a few months back. Didn't get it, but I do like having that option. 🙂

I don't get all this nonsense floating around about "protest votes".

I've worked in US and Singapore, the fact you have to apply for a work permit/visa doesn't preclude you working abroad. None of have the right to work in Australia or New Zealand but many Brits do.

Why do people want to be out of the European Union? Is because of the regulation of bananas thing?

...the fact you have to apply for a work permit/visa doesn't preclude you working abroad.

Please explain.

I've worked in the US on two different occasions. The first was illegally packing seeds in a factory in Chicago, the second was legally because I work for a global team out of a Seattle-based office.

With a family to support I certainly wouldn't want to work in the US / Aus / NZ without the relevant paperwork - the risk is too great - whereas my understanding is that I can work in most of Europe tomorrow.

buzz-lightyear - Member

Why do people want to be out of the European Union?

I just want out. I rather a country be governed by own rules than having to comply with more external rules. Too many rules already and the added interference can only benefits the bureaucrats which I don't like. Trading rules are fine. You want to trade then comply with the rules same to us and same to them in EU or in UK (if we are out that is).

Want to work in EU then comply with their rules but try not to drag everyone in. The voters will decide and if the votes are for EU then EU it is.

🙄