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You missed out the $2,000,000 per ship toll booth and legal acknowledgment that Iran controls the straights and can pretty much do what they want with it.


 
Posted : 08/04/2026 1:02 pm
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And the unneccessary dead, and the sanctions lifted on both Iran and Russia.


 
Posted : 08/04/2026 1:12 pm
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Posted by: convert

If a US plane takes off from UK soil tonight and takes out a desalination plant or a power station that provides the energy for a desalination plant, or a hospital or any other piece of vital civilian infrastructure we will have blood on our hands.

I agree but in the real world how could we prevent it. I don’t think Starmer saying no will cut it


 
Posted : 08/04/2026 1:29 pm
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I see Israel are behaving like normal and pretending the rules don’t apply to them again. Then they will have the gall to call anyone who mentions this anti Semitic


 
Posted : 08/04/2026 1:31 pm
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Posted by: chrismac

I agree but in the real world how could we prevent it. I don’t think Starmer saying no will cut it

Only way to prevent it is to ban all flights of US planes from the UK, like Spain. It's what JellyMan Starmer should have done right from the start.


 
Posted : 08/04/2026 1:50 pm
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It's only a ceasefire, one where China pushed Iran to be more flexible. Tolls will continue because there isn't a peace agreement.

The US and Iran are a million miles apart on peace negotiations, which haven't started. The ceasefire is time to discuss stuff with both currently claiming that the other has accepted their conditions.

It's touch and go whether one of the three does something to spoil the opportunity; Israel says that Lebanon isn't included in the ceasefire and so that's ongoing and expanding 


 
Posted : 08/04/2026 1:58 pm
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I see Israel are behaving like normal and pretending the rules don’t apply to them again

I don't think there's been any pretending for a long time. They KNOW that the rules don't apply to them and they can do what the hell they like, up to and including genocide.

They're obviously going to do to Southern Lebanon what they did to Gaza


 
Posted : 08/04/2026 2:00 pm
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Posted by: binners

I don't think there's been any pretending for a long time. They KNOW that the rules don't apply to them and they can do what the hell they like, up to and including genocide.

They're obviously going to do to Southern Lebanon what they did to Gaza

ANTISEMITE !!!!!


 
Posted : 08/04/2026 2:08 pm
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Posted by: tpbiker

So just to recap..

8 weeks ago we could use the straight and the Iranian regime hated us

8 weeks later..we can again use the straight, and the Iranian regime still hate us

Have I got that about right? (Ignoring the countless pointless innocent deaths)

 

Trump and has cronies have made billions, Epstein is off the front pages

 


 
Posted : 08/04/2026 2:09 pm
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I honestly don't think that Trump is intelligent enough to do something like this to get Epstein off the front pages. From everything I've read and seen about him, he's a moron who's incapable of any sort of strategic or tactical thinking whatsoever.


 
Posted : 08/04/2026 2:14 pm
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Posted by: Kramer

he's a moron who's incapable of any sort of strategic or tactical thinking whatsoever.

Leaving aside as plans go to hide the Epstein papers it is an insanely short term option and likely to blow back badly in the midterms so I dont think it counts as even tactical.

It doesnt need him to be thinking of things but instead people suggesting it to him.

Israel gets to launch its latest invasion mostly hidden behind the larger story plus do its time honoured tradition of killing a bunch of political enemies since that has never resulted in more extreme people taking charge.

Various of Trumps advisors have been raking in the money. Been some amazingly lucky bets recently. Although they will need to rethink the approach since everyone is expecting the "attack Friday night whilst markets are closed" and make good news announcement on monday.


 
Posted : 08/04/2026 2:29 pm
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