[Closed] inception - possible spoiler content

It fell over and he's home... It was wobbling... 🙂

He's home. But it would've been cool if they origamied the end.

It fell over. Clue is in the fact that he saw his kids faces which he'd never been able to do in the dream

I disagree, it didn't fall over and he was still dreaming..

There was some definite wobbling so he must be home, and he saw his kids faces which he couldn't do in any of his dreams.

it was the dream of old man Fischer.so the spinning top at the end is in a different level of dream. nernerneener.

brilliant film

Dreaming, otherwise showing the top is unforgivably misleading.

I watched it with my girlfriend whom I suspect had fallen asleep a couple of times. As the screen went blank she said "what's that spinning top for?"

Awake, I think because he saw their faces. And because I wanted a happy ending!

It is an amazing film, I loved every minute of it.

Did it hit the iceberg?

It's far from an amazing film. DeCaprio is becoming less convincing as he gets older. He'll never convince me in any role...except maybe, just maybe The Departed. It was clever but the opportunity to really challenge was thrown away in favour of some pretty gratuitous Hollywood action shite, especially in the Winter section. Ellen Page was great in the set-up/architecture phase but lost in the action bits. Some of the acting (not least DiCaprio's) was wooden to say the least.

Still enjoyed it though. 🙂

Still dreaming.

Children had not aged and were still wearing the same clothes as in his dream?

also the mark was when spun was very wobbling and spinning across all plains, yet when cut bac it was stabilized and starting to loose the wobble

the kids were the same age as in his vision, yet it was 2(?) years later, so they'd have been older

I think in real life the top didn't spin at all. The whole point of the top was that in another person's dream, it'd behave without the odd weighting - ie like a normal top (that's the whole point, so you can see if you're in a dream or not). when he span it in real life, it never started spinning, due to being weighted. I think the point was, as it was spinning at all, it was in a dream. He said something about 'it'll spin forever if I'm in somone elses dream' but that doesn't make sense, as in their dream, the top would have normal physics (spin for a min then drop).

Other possibility is that, if the location was architected by the young girl, she knew how the top behaved, so might have made it that way in a dream

good film though, kinda matrixy in ways

An hour too long. A good idea but it was overstretched.
By the end I was more interested in when I was getting home than whether he did.

It was all a bit silly really but fun. A bit like all those time travel movies, don't sweat the logic because there isn't any, just go with it.

And how can the spinning/not spinning top be significant, that could have been planted in his dream too. I think the point was that you never know what is real and deal with what you can understand in terms that you can understand. Like how at work managers think the answer to every problem is to get more managers.

Douglas Adams has the last word on this kind of thing - if you travel back in time it's never a good idea to phone yourself and say hello.

And its all copied from Dynasty where an entire season was a dream Crystal had in the shower anyway.

its significant because only the owner know's the weight and how the object movesm this mean it is a dream if it behaves differently

But how does he know he knows the weight and how the object moves ? That could have been planted in his mind in the same way that they are trying to plant an idea in Cilian Murphy's mind, as a way to make the whole thing seem plausible. He could have dreamed the spinning top, and remember he said his wife gave it to him.

I enjoyed the film I'm not slagging it, especially the idea that your subconcious dreams up some Special Forces to deal with attacks to your psyche. Nice. And the bit where she hold the mirror up to the mirror in a wee nod to Lewis Carroll.

Just don't try and take it literally the whole thing is based on twisted logic. There is no sense to it.

deadlydarcy - Member

It's far from an amazing film. DeCaprio is becoming less convincing as he gets older. He'll never convince me in any role...except maybe, just maybe The Departed.

How about What's Eating Gilbert Grape?

hels, I think that was Dallas, the shower containing Pam, and the subject that returned from the dead being Bobby 🙂

Sorry I am on a train of thought now thinking about this - maybe we all dreamed the same dream, and isn't that a bit like going to see a film ? Communal suspension of disbelief and all that.

Liked the Escher staircases too. On the minus side did an inward eye-rolling at the way it was structured like an online game, with all the challenges and moving to the next level etc. To make it simple for the kids to understand.

Deadlydarcy - are you sure ? I could have snuck in your TV and implanted that idea...

😀 @ hels

Maybe it was my dream and it was actually The Colbys we were watching all along.

Effects heavy, Leaden and full of idiotic mcguffins, the Wife and I got bored at about the forty minute mark and went for a mexican instead. Enjoyed that much more.

Deadly darcy - that sounds more like a nitemare !! Directed by Guillermo del Toro.

Random point...did anyone else notice in the cold snowy dream you couldn't see their breaths in the cold?

Still dreaming.

Children had not aged and were still wearing the same clothes as in his dream?

Children's outfits were similar but not the same (particularly shoes). There are two pairs of actors creditted with playing the kids with Philippa at 3y and 5y and James at 20m and 3y.

[i]There are two pairs of actors creditted with playing the kids with Philippa at 3y and 5y and James at 20m and 3y. [/i]

The older actors are voice actors for when he spoke to them on the phone.

Doesn't matter...

Go back and watch Memento instead. Now there's a proper head ****.

Effects heavy, Leaden and full of idiotic mcguffins, the Wife and I got bored at about the forty minute mark and went for a mexican instead. Enjoyed that much more.

Sounds like you have the attention span of a child 😛

Oh and the vfx were tasteful and very well done, not like Avatar which was just vfx for the sake of it.

I didn't enjoy it. It seemed to be a vehicle for CGI over writing and some bits had me laughing out loud in the cinema.

DiCaprio was brilliant as Howard Hughes. Somehow I suspect this performance won't be mentioned with the same reverence.

It seemed to be a vehicle for CGI over writing

Which is funny, as the majority of the SFX was not computer generated...

"Sounds like you have the attention span of a child "

Not really, expected better but just thought it was cack, and pitched intellectually at about the level of a child and simply not engaging enough for me. My wife is a Bafta winning and Oscar nominated vfx supervisor and reckoned the effects were by and large average but extensive, and she should know cos she did some of 'em.:)

I'm not saying you don't have to like it, I'm jus saying we didn't.:)

What was the 'kick' that woke Cobb and Sato(?) up?

My wife is a Bafta winning and Oscar nominated vfx supervisor and reckoned the effects were by and large average but extensive, and she should know cos she did some of 'em.:)

So not your typical "punter" then 😀

Not really no......... that's why I said it's ok for other people to like it but we didn't.

Battlefield Los Angeles is going to be visually stunning however, but I suspect a bit slim on plot or common sense.:)

Can't argue with that! There may have been a lot of vfx but they weren't all that noticeable to me and they were used to aid the storytelling rather than "lets just have some cool stuff because we can".

Just watched it and enjoyed it. Interesting but gripping.

jahwomble: it starts pretty slow but it sounds like you walked out before it got to the more pacey action bit (i.e. from the freight train driving through middle of the city street)

Here's an alternative trailer, worth a look:

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[i]Go back and watch Memento instead. Now there's a proper head ****. [/i]

Really? I thought memento was fantastic and a far better film. It's easy to understand and doesn't have any silly open endings.

If you want a proper 'WTF is real?' movie then Cronenberg's Existenz is the one - so many levels up & down in that one and you really start to doubt what's 'real' and what's not.

Fun me. I thought I would die in the cinema and was kind of hoping for it). Truly detested it.

😯 Blimey. Why did you hate it so much?

great film, utterly engrossing.
loved it.
my mind snapped with about 30 minutes to go, but I was too involved to worry about it and it made for a fun discussion afterwards working out what the hell went on.
and I'd like to think that he's still dreaming...