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Jakester · 2017-07-16T22:52:24Z

Apologies in advance for rant. Probably correct use of capitals/punctuation and not enough random exclamation marks for a proper one though. We've just come back from a weekend in Devon, camping, which was lovely, but marred by two occasions on the same day where dogs, entirely unprovoked, went after my seven-year-old son. The first was at South Milton Sands. We'd gone to meet up with some family friends* who happened to be in the area. A good time was had by all, and we ended up playing a group game of beach cricket, until one of the dads (not me!) sent the ball up over the dune/cliffs. My son had been keeping wicket, in a very seven-year-old way of being easily distracted and fascinated by turns at rocks, shells, seaweed and whatever caught his eye. When the ball got hoicked over the cliff, we turned to see where it was for a moment, and he carried on his inspection of the surrounding area. He was never more than 6 feet away from us. However, he suddenly screamed and we turned around and there was a black terrier dog chasing him. He was screaming and crying and the xxxx thing was nipping at him, and even bit him on his backside as I ran over to him. The owners were a good 50ft away and clearly had no idea what their dog was up to, only being alerted to my shouts to scare the dog away. There was no attempt to apologise - indeed, they didn't even stand up to see what the fuss was about. My son was distraught, as you'd expect a seven-year-old who'd just been bitten by a dog to be. Thankfully it was only a nip, so no physical damage done. We went back to the campsite, calmed him down, and got on with the rest of the day. A few hours later we went to North Sands in Salcombe, just before we were due to go to the restaurant there for supper. As we were a bit early, we went for a walk on the beach. And guess what? Again, another f**king dog went for him completely unprovoked. This time a black and white terrier thing - owners again 50+ feet away, goes straight for him, nipping at his heels. I ran over again to try and shoo it away, but it was having none of it. Owner shouting it's name completely ineffectually but not bothering to try and come over and stop it. In the end I resorted to swatting it away with the shoes I was carrying, which prompted a threat from its owner. By this time my son was completely hysterical and had wet himself with fear - utterly inconsolable and shaking. When I (angrily, I admit) remonstrated with the owner, I was told apparently it was my son's fault for not knowing "how to deal with dogs", or our fault, for having come to "a dog beach" (rather than, as I understood it, a public beach). I am now lying awake, still furious at the sheer [gittishness] of these entitled ****tards who think their dog's interests are paramount. I am sick to death of constantly having to fend off dogs when we're out for walk while their owners croon "it's fine, they're only friendly" or when some muddy hound jumps up as I'm walking to work in a suit "they're only saying hello". I'm sick of the barking of the new neighbours' two dogs at the front who spend their waking hours in a garden no bigger than my front room, and go mental if I have the temerity to walk out my own front door and down my garden path. I'm sick to the eye teeth of the chunts at the back who have two dogs which go spare if I have the temerity to walk to my garage to get my bike out. In short, I am sick of this culture where dog owners' interests outweigh the rest of us. I have no issue with well-trained dogs, but sadly they seem to be in the very small minority these days. Sorry for this (probably sub-standard) rant. *To put into context, said friends had a dog with them, which was well behaved, came when called and was kept in sight at all times.

kerley

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How can people(or whatever gender they wish to be called)on "benefits" afford to keep/feed/vet bills!!!!!???????

Daily Mail is over there, Trollster.

Posted : 20/07/2017 6:46 am

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Absolute blame vs pragmatic solutions and never the twain shall meet. Bizarrely you lot don't actually disagree (mostly) you're just arguing parallel points. 😆

Posted : 20/07/2017 8:13 am

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What I said was a dog CAN be destroyed for merely scaring someone - and the kennel club and law both agree - and that the "Reasonable apprehension" is what is reasonable to the frightened person not to you.

So why is the word reasonable in the law and obviously its not about whats reasonable to the dogs owner

Posted : 20/07/2017 8:34 am

kerley

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asking an irresponsible dog owner what they feel is reasonable is not what I would be spending any time doing

Posted : 20/07/2017 8:39 am

anagallis_arvensis

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asking an irresponsible dog owner what they feel is reasonable is not what I would be spending any time doing

Luckily its judges thar decide not some chav with an unruly hound

Posted : 20/07/2017 8:57 am

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Luckily its judges thar decide not some chav with an unruly hound

So you do realise that your definition of what is reasonable may not be the legally correct one?

Posted : 20/07/2017 9:30 am

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How can people(or whatever gender they wish to be called)on "benefits" afford to keep/feed/vet bills!!!!!???????

Peoples Dispensary for Sick Animals.
Beggars used to be able to claim off dhss for a dog don't know if still can?

Posted : 20/07/2017 10:07 am

anagallis_arvensis

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So you do realise that your definition of what is reasonable may not be the legally correct one?

I havent defined it have, just pointed it out, whats reasonable wouldnt be for me to judge.

Posted : 20/07/2017 10:42 am

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[quote=anagallis_arvensis ]whats reasonable wouldnt be for me to judge.

Yet you have on this thread

Posted : 20/07/2017 10:50 am

anagallis_arvensis

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Yet you have on this thread

Have I?

Posted : 20/07/2017 12:55 pm

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I recon a pointless argument between AA and TJ (before he became a reformed character) would go on and on and on until the end of time.

At least only 50% of that combo now insists on that sort of ball aching, last word at all cost, pedantry which is good news for anyone that actually has a life.

As you were, and carry on. 🙂

Posted : 20/07/2017 1:46 pm

kerley

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An uncontrolled dog came up to me yesterday. I ran around in circles flapping my arms around. Did I do good?

Posted : 20/07/2017 2:42 pm

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Grrrr

Posted : 20/07/2017 3:01 pm

Cougar

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I ran around in circles flapping my arms around.

Are you Jim Pooley?

Posted : 20/07/2017 3:12 pm

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