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[Closed] I'm no electrician, but I don't think this looks correct?

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A 'qualified' electrician rewired our house ten years ago and today whilst replacing the halogen down lighters with LED ones I came across this. He seemed to think that using junction block was acceptable. There are at least 5 done like this. I haven't removed the rest of them yet.

I would have expected him to have at least used moulded junction box?

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Posted : 28/04/2017 7:39 pm
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What's that I can hear?

Ah yes...it's the sound of many people opening up Photoshop.....


 
Posted : 28/04/2017 7:40 pm
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Bodgetastic.


 
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[quote=CaptainFlashheart said]What's that I can hear?
Ah yes...it's the sound of many people opening up Photoshop.....

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Posted : 28/04/2017 7:41 pm
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It's the sort of thing I'd do.

So no, it's not acceptable or correct...


 
Posted : 28/04/2017 7:46 pm
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12V?


 
Posted : 28/04/2017 7:54 pm
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Good work, Pies!


 
Posted : 28/04/2017 8:04 pm
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[quote=mugsys_m8 ]12V?

Presumably - in which case junction block is acceptable (at least I'd happily use it - just did an install with 12V LEDs and junction block, though it wasn't domestic lighting), though like the OP I'd still expect boxes to be used.


 
Posted : 28/04/2017 8:05 pm
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No, that's 240v mains. The driver is at the end of the vertical cable hanging down.


 
Posted : 28/04/2017 8:26 pm
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In which case, nope. You can do mains with the equivalent of junction block, but that would be in a proper box as you suggest. I'm not a qualified electrician* and don't know exactly what the regs say, but certainly wouldn't do a DIY job like that, or expect it from somebody I'm paying.

* when I see those who are doing jobs like this it reinforces my opinion that I could do at least as good a job on most things - I've never done anything covered by part P, but if I needed to I might see if I can DIY and just get it signed off


 
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"[i]* when I see those who are doing jobs like this it reinforces my opinion that I could do at least as good a job on most things[/i]"

My feelings exactly.

We were quoted over £500 to replace the consumer unit here. I read up online and did it myself in an afternoon, then got it signed off later when we had a sparky in to do some more substantial work. The only thing he found wrong was that I'd not labelled the breakers, I just had it written down on a piece of paper.

Most stuff (electrics, plumbing, painting) is definitely not rocket surgery so it pains me massively having to pay people to do it. I just don't have the time to do it myself.


 
Posted : 29/04/2017 12:21 pm
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Wagobox connectors is what you need - nice, tidy solution

We had a family electrical business for many years and I'll quite happily do my own wiring and get someone qualified to check it out afterwards.


 
Posted : 29/04/2017 12:37 pm
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Or even just a ChocBox, about 50p each...


 
Posted : 29/04/2017 3:44 pm
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Give the 'qualified electrician' a Noble Prize in wiring category 😆 😆


 
Posted : 29/04/2017 4:22 pm
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Half the wiring in our house looked like that - old ice cream box, with line of taped together light feeds and two downstairs socket circuits in there, hidden in plasterboard covered old doorway. The box had popped open, full of dust from a decade in there, and lurking halfway up a blank wall, just at picture nail height. 😯

It looked more like the back of a chav's car stereo. 😆

It's now split - a line of ceiling roses on joists above, a couple of junction boxes at skirting level, on old reveal of the doorway.

Again, all signed off by 'professional'. Probably the same professional who got the floor level in the extension about 1.5cm higher than the rest of the house. 🙄


 
Posted : 29/04/2017 5:10 pm
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Thought it would be ok, before final connect.
Other than that junction box if you still need the cable or simply get rid.


 
Posted : 29/04/2017 5:15 pm
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Looks like a half decent bodge. At least he used tape over the terminal blocks.

To be fair even though it's rough not to enclose the terminals in a box of some sort, unless the jointed cables are under strain then as long as there are no bare terminals or cable to cause a short then practically it's fine. Before the advent of tidy little junction boxes and chock blocks you had to use a big old joint box which then wouldn't fit through the hole for the light.


 
Posted : 29/04/2017 6:22 pm