[Closed] I'm about to have my head examined and talk about my problems.... (THC content)

Good luck. I did something similar about 4 years ago. Interesting little journey, some good, some bad. Email in profile if needed.

Good luck alpin. Great positive choices. Best wishes THM.

Good luck glad to hear you're getting help.

Good luck with it all Alpin. "Snout" - great word, haven't heard that one in ages!

Yes, good luck mate.

Good luck Alpin, I know its Germany and there are systems and processes for everything.

Hope it goes well and they don't recommend the hockey mask, strait jacket and sack barrow....

let us know how it goes.

thanks for your support, guys.

was an interesting talk.

it turns out that "no, but the police do" isn't the correct answer when being asked "do you have aproblem with drugs?".

she then gave me a leaflet and was asked to answer the questions on it.

1. do you sleep better after having had a smoke?
2 has someone told you that you smoke a lot?
3. do most of your circle of friends smoke?
4. is cannabis a "friend" in a variety of situations?
5. do you smoke when you have a problem?

supposedly if you answser "yes" to two or more then you have a problem.

my answers were something like this:

1. yes, but don't we all?
2. yes, but they were more impressed than upset by it.
3. yes/no, a few friends, but lots of work colleagues do.
4. yes.
5. yes, but i was smoking before these problems turned up.

so, obviously i have a problem.

she couldn't believe that i smoked weed because i enjoyed smoking weed. she was sure there must be an underlying problem (*more of this later). she didn't like my comparison to others needing a beer at lunch or their red wine in the evening to relax... or me pointing out that she needed a coffee to start her day/before she wuld see me. habits, she said.... we all have them 😕

she couldn't believe that i would smoke at work. she was sure that was a sign that i am unhappy with my work. i'm not... sometimes a job or customer gets on my tits, but the good thing is about my work is that after a week or so i move on/have a new job.

i explained that i have never been one for drinking lots of alcohol and "needing a beer". she was worried that i would start to compensate for the absence of weed by drinking more. as in my OP, yes, but it's easy for me to say no to beers. it is not so much the being drunk but the morning after.

she asked me about problems in my life, of which there are a few, but they are certainly not my reason for smoking. my old man is unwell, the taxman keeps asking for more money, i can't afford the house i want and finding my own workshop is proving to be more difficult/expensive than anticipated. but i was smoking weed before these things happened.

she was surprised to hear that my life is on the whole really rather good. brilliant GF, enough work, too many bikes, friends and family that i like (for the most part, anyway), money for holidays and other nice things. never been in trouble with the law... at least untill a fortnight or so ago and the fines for RLJing.

she told me about "flashbacks". where the THC sits in fat cells, that THC can become active again when you sweat causing you to be stoned. (i weigh 71kg, am 5'7"... i'm sure here BMI is higher than mine.) i sweat like a pig and don't deal with the heat very well, but have never experienced a "flashback".

she was surprised to hear that i ride my bike lots and am active, saying that using cannabis makes one lazy and lethargic. (got into MTB as it was a way of getting away from town & people to go somewhere quiet for a smoke.... the old or the marshes.)

told her that if i have a task, like cleaning the flat, building/knocking something together or drawing plans then i'll have a smoke beforehand or during and not after, as if it were a treat for something accomplished. for me i'll have a smoke, i may work slower, but i'm then more methodical and less likely to miss my mistakes.

after telling her this she was sure that i have ADHD/HDS (HyperactivityDisorderSyndrom) and that i should make an appointment to see a doctor about it so that he can prescribe medication 🙄 🙄
told her i would rather have an occaional smoke to relax myself than rely on pills and chemicals to achieve the same result. whether the reliance on prescribed medication is any better than the reliance on illegal drugs remained a moot point.

all in all not a very productive talk, but at least it goes on file as me taking some action to resolve my "issues". will be back in two weeks time to discuss wht makes me angry. i have to prepare a list of things that upset me. i'm not sure how clued up about Brexit, the inequalities of the capitalist system and E-bikers on proper trails is, but we'll see....

n.b. don't think that i dismissed all her points outright. she was a nice lady, but i think we have little common ground and she is used to dealing with the more f-ed up end of the spectrum when it comes to drug [s]use[/s] abuse.

also a little peeved as it has cost me a days work.....

Interesting read!
As a side point, all of my friends that smoke weed have the least problems in their life. Those on harder drugs or no drugs at all have the most problems. Possibly this is just my experience though.

but i was smoking weed before these things happened.

But were you smoking less?

Why did you speak to her about weed anyway? Did the Polizei make you?

Why did you speak to her about weed anyway? Did the Polizei make you?

Suspect his lawyer made him do it in order to show he's attempting to deal with his problem before going to court.

You didn't call her a bitch, ho or pro did you Dogg?

Flashbacks from weed? I have never heard of that before.

Does sound a little "Drugs are bad, Mkay?"

Before I stopped (no real intentional thing, I just sort of stopped) i remember that a few days off would result in a period of very vivid dreams.

yes an no, Molly.... not really. as alluded to previously i'll occasionally stop for a month or so once or twice a year, either voluntarily or because a someone has gone to some sort of all-inclusive holiday camp for a few months 😉

she couldn't understand why i shoud start smoking again having stopped.

my lawyer recommended that i should go as he says it shows that i am dealing (not drugs) with my issues.... this is assuming the people at the town hall/KVR take a dislike to me and want to issue a Fahrverbot/driving ban.

this is separate from the Pozilei... they don't care much about my regeneration. am still waiting to hear from them regarding my THC/blood result. i'll be issued a fine and a 30 day driving ban if positive. and they may come at me again for the bit of weed i handed over to them, i.e. posession.

my bigger problem will be if the my case lands on the desk of some jobsworth at the town hall who wants to make my life difficult. they can not revoke my license, but they can issue a long term driving ban. it is to them that i have to prove i am clean.

unkelhomored.... yes... spoke about this last year with a colleague as he was also "on a break".

am going through the wierd-crazy-dream thing now. dreamt the other night i was on a secret mission to Russia on aghost train with some random people and i was leading them to safety. it was awesome.

oh, and the other week when i dreamt i had two girlfriends who looked similar... one of them i had normal sex with and the other let me do her up the bum. and i couldn't let one find out about the other. that dream was LOTS better than the Russian undercover thing.

that is not to say that i never dreamt when smoking, i did, the dreams just weren't that surreal.

if anything it is a reason to start smoking again as i wouldn't be walking around till lunch time smirking to myself trying to work out what happened.

You don't need 'help' tackling your use of cannabis in any sense of the word and her starting point was bigoted and ignorant imo, I thought Nazi doctrine had been outlawed in Germany years ago? Best play along their silly game though so good luck with that. Irie Ites.

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oh, and the other week when i dreamt i had two girlfriends who looked similar... one of them i had normal sex with and the other let me do her up the bum. and i couldn't let one find out about the other. that dream was LOTS better than the Russian undercover thing.

Bingo - flashbackcity!

if that had really happened i would have remembered...!

ah ha ha ha, so you are adhd now, everyone has to have a syndrome, they can all be treated with expensive little pills.

interesting read, thanks for sharing.

(answered yes to only one of your questions - dont think i have a problem per se, certainly a (controlled) habit)

i would rather have an occaional smoke to relax myself than rely on [s]pills[/s] and chemicals

what do you think is helping you relax at the moment? 😆

I have no issue with you smoking BTW or how you conduct your life, this just made me laugh

Ganja flashbacks?! Bargain, come on I'm waiting. What's gonna happen, l start appreciating music and art really hard whilst guzzling biscuits?

Your shrink sounds like she's taken her drugs info from the mid 70's, man

They are very vague and open questions.

I can answer yes to 2 of them... and I've barely touched any in 5 years.

l start appreciating music and art really hard whilst guzzling biscuits?

For us it was listening to the white album while guzzling coco pops. Ahhh, those were the days...

I feel cheated, sweated like a sweaty thing spinning last night and still no flash backs 🙁 and I have lost a chunk of weight in the last year.

what do you think is helping you relax at the moment?

looking at naked ladies down by the river 😉
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Genuinely haven't got time to read the responses but there does seem to be an assumption amongst GPs / trick cyclists that if you enjoy smoking weed you *must* have deep underlying issues.

They'll tell you this just before going home for a G&T and half a bottle of red.

To quote Irvine Welsh (cos I'm in a rush), "The gemme's nae straight".

@ user-removed... i wasn't allowed to compare my situation to that of others. i tried to draw comparisons between functioning alcoholics and other addicts.

she was trying to help, but i think she is used to seeing people whose lives are a mess. i was a bit of a conundrum for her. happy, employed, relationship, good temperament....

right, i'm now genuinely off to the river with my bike and my shades. 8)
would usually pre-roll a doobie and sit somewhere quiet and admire what nature has to offer. but not anymore. 🙁

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german joke:

was hat Schnittlauch und ein Politist gemeinsam?

beide sind außen grün und innen hohl...

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what do chives and a German policeman have in common?

the outside is green and the inside is hollow

Nice 🙂

so it's true what they say about Germans and a sense of humour than... 😉

It was an interesting weed oops! read (that was a genuine typo 😆 )

I'm just surprised how much of their personal life someone is prepared to air on a public forum! I think I'll stick to snidey remarks 🙂

That seems a bit pointless and unhelpful, and trying to make you fit into a box you just don't fit in, and (as a GP) I see and know lots of people who use weed and have no problems at all, I do also see a few younger people whose lives are sad desperate stoner lives sat in their bedrooms whilst the world passes them by, and the occasional person who really goes nutty on weed. But you don't [i]really [/i]seem to be one of them... 😉 So all a bit pointless.

I'd still prefer you didn't drive with THC onboard even if you "feel" or "know" you are safe.

[i]As a side point, all of my friends that smoke weed have the least problems in their life.[/i]

My BIL is obviously not one of your friends, total Space Cowboy barely capable of tying his own shoe laces.

Does sound a little "Drugs are bad, Mkay?"

Two things spring to mind here:

1 the hypocrisy of the alcohol v drugs debate and
2 the pharmaceutical v diagnosis industrial complex. I have a close friend who works in Community Mental Health and has a real loathing of Doctors desperately trying to solve (non) issues with drugs - "Cause that's the industry they are in".

The only question you really need to look for an answer to is "does your use of a stimulant actually do anyone any harm, or is it likely to?" You may want to just play the game however as changing the mindset here may be impossible and you need your licence. Good luck Fella.

For us it was listening to the white album while guzzling coco pops. Ahhh, those were the days...

I have a close friend who works in Community Mental Health and has a real loathing of Doctors desperately trying to solve (non) issues with drugs - "Cause that's the industry they are in".

Alternatively; prescribing medicine that has/can have a beneficial effect?

Genuinely haven't got time to read the responses but there does seem to be an assumption amongst GPs / trick cyclists that if you enjoy smoking weed you *must* have deep underlying issues.

Given the OP went to said trick cyclist voluntarily then it might be reasonable for her to assume that there is an issue - other than just him wanting to set some foundations for future mitigation i.e. thinking that if he didn't have a problem he wouldn't be there?

does your use of a stimulant actually do anyone any harm, or is it likely to?

The supply might of, drug mules don't exactly get fair treatment. Plus the money filters to gangs etc.

If they'd legalise it out would reduce the amount of suffering for a lot of people.

Good news, I'm sure you'll be fine.

I'm really taking a liking to alpin. Bloke has a good outlook.

@ breadcrumb..... We're not talking about hard class A drugs here. No one is stuffing half a kilo of grass up their arse 🙄

In most cases I can trace the origin of my weed if I wanted to. Rarely does it come from further than 100km away.

It is so easy to set up a house or room with UV lights, hydroponics and air filters.

If we are talking about hash, then yes, most of it comes from abroad via Spanish ports, but again you're not going to get a reasonable quantity stuffed up Jose's bottom.

If we were talking about heroin then maybe, possibly, but even then you'll find over 90% comes into the country/Europe hidden in consignments...

On a vaguely related note, I take prescription antidepressants every day as they make me feel a lot calmer about life (I had a nervous breakdown 8 years ago). I suspect it's very analogous to smoking dope every day - you achieve the same end result, just by different means; just one is legal and the other not......

As someone who used weed habitually for the best part of 7 years, then suddenly decided to give up - I can confirm that most of the professional advice you have received on this matter is pretty well correct.

Now I'm out of all that - I can see just how much it was affecting my life, my health, me, even near the end of my useage, which in the last year had become seriously cut down - to a 'weekends only' thing.

THC and its other compounds are weirdly insidious things. Molecularly - they are very long and massive - and they hang around inside your tissues for a long while. It's interesting to hear you say that you don't feel any different after 3 weeks. That makes perfect sense - cos on some level you are probably still 'stoned'. Sorry, but I can realise this now about myself all those years ago - with the benefit of hindsight.

Try 3 months - and see how you feel then.

Giving up weed was singularly the best thing I ever did in my life, ever (rather ironically writing this now, as it would seem, as I'm in Amsterdam. I have no interest in the stuff whatsoever though).

@ breadcrumb..... We're not talking about hard class A drugs here. No one is stuffing half a kilo of grass up their arse

I wasn't aiming so much at weed mules but unless it's fair trade grass someone may of seen a hard time at some point in the chain.

Some good news today.....

The Pozilei are not going to pursue me for possession! 😀

Although the letter does say that if I get caught again I'll be in trouble. 😥

Still waiting for the blood test results...

Good news! So off the hook for the possession, but driving "under the influence" still up in the air?

@ ned.... Yup.

It's a little pressure off my mind.

Only pinched one snout today and only smoked half of that with my coffee.

Moving on up....

alpin..

I reckon (IMHO) you'll be happier & better off ditching the weed in the long term. You might not think so now, but speaking from experience of someone who was a heavy user....I ditched it because I was getting so paranoid it was untrue....

Giving up the pot/weed was one of the best things I ever did!

Stick with it this course of action you're on, you've obviously got the ability to do without....you just like it, which I can relate to as I did & like you I was able to ditch as & when I wanted..

cheers mrLeb....

was talking to the GF about this earlier. i've not craved a smoke since having my arm abused by the kranky krankenschwester... well, other than Monday night when home alone watching a People Just do Nothing.

i will stick with it.

not going to say i'll never smoke again. just not as heavily or as often as i previously did.

incidently, i've never experienced paranoia or panic attacks.

she couldn't believe that i smoked weed because i enjoyed smoking weed. she was sure there must be an underlying problem (*more of this later). she didn't like my comparison to others needing a beer at lunch or their red wine in the evening to relax... or me pointing out that she needed a coffee to start her day/before she wuld see me. habits, she said.... we all have them

Whilst it maybe a comparison of sorts, two wrongs don't make a right. I could give up my morning coffee, but I 'need' it because frankly my days suck donkey balls at the moment, finding the motivation to do anything is a chore without a double espresso for breakfast. More sleep would help too.

So there's a reason I drink coffee. There's probably a reason you smoke so much weed. You can explain it as 'enjoying it' (I enjoy coffee), but look at it the other way arround, why don't you enjoy not smoking so much?

Keep an open mind, you've got to go to the sessions now, may as well get your money's worth from it and might learn something.

I can't stand People Just Do Nothing*. I could probably enjoy it stoned. Or I could watch something else, which is the better option, dealing with sub par TV with chemicals, or changing the channel?

*Personal oppinion, tried it after everyone on here seemed to talk about it.

Dosent sound like you need to quit, just cut down massively, maybe invest in a vapourizer to cut out the Smoke side of things.
Good luck and thanks for some entertaining threads.

I really caned dope for about 12 years, decided to give up as I realised it was having an effect on my personality, the ratty side of my personality was either on or off. Gave up about 10 years ago and never missed it at all.

I would never tell anyone not to smoke dope or weed but I would advise that there is a price to pay if you do a lot.

Same with everything pretty much

alpin

No one is stuffing half a kilo of grass up their arse

Hmmm... I wonder... 💡

Only kidding, sounds like a shite idea - I used to partake most evenings (no, not jamming it up my arse) & only stopped when my other half moved in and started eyeing me disapprovingly, was a bit of a bummer at first as I did enjoy it, but then it gradually ended up a weekend only thing, then gradually a once-in-a-blue-moon thing, then I stopped pretty much altogether - just got out of the habit I suppose.

Looking back, I don't think it was a terrible thing to have been doing - i'd still have been sitting watching footy / Family Guy marathons etc. of an evening, so I wasn't having a sneaky banger [i]instead[/i] of doing anything else - just having a really good sleep afterwards. Don't really miss it now - just more associate it as an old habit associated with my carefree bachelor days, although I do sometimes have a shot of a vapourizer when i'm so inclined, although that's not often - burnt popcorn anyone?

Hope the other charge works out!
J