[Closed] If there was a 2nd Brexit referendum, what could the question actually be?

I do.

"Now that you know what it'll actually be like, you can't seriously want Brexit, can you? Yes/No PS If you vote Remain this time maybe Tony Blair will stay dead"

b r - Member
Rather than it getting lost in the monster Brexit post, if there was a 2nd referendum what could the Yes/No question actually be?

"Should we hang Boris and Nigel by the left testicle or the right"

or

"Should we hang Boris and Nigel by the right testicle or the left"

You might have a problem with Nigel there...

I suggest Rock/Paper/Scissors between May & Farage. Or an IQ test to be allowed to vote, or.... I don't know what.

That we've allowed bigoted, small minded f***wits to decide our nation's future just beggars belief. Let it be forever known as 'Cameron's Folly'.

I've 16 year old twins and they cannot believe their future has been compromised by 65 year old retired Daily Mail readers

I voted in first time.

If they did another one I'd probably vote out, even if I was poorer as a result. Couldn't care less about immigration stuff, not something I worry about.

what has changed for you since to make that change?

http://euromove.org.uk/we-need-your-support/join-the-european-movement/

Zippy, too little too late. The rime for pro EU campaigns was 2015-16, from when we knew there would be a Referendum to the vote

You may have some difficulty in hanging Farage by his left testicle so right one only.

It's never too late.
The future awaits those with open minds and a willingness to create rather than destroy.
Look at the map you are European. Embrace all that it offers.
Don't lock yourself away in the darkness come and join the party.
All are welcome.

Nipper99 - Member
You may have some difficulty in hanging Farage by his left testicle so right one only.

Obviously I do not have a close personal relationship with him. 🙂

And those that actually fought for the country voted IN.

The original vote was solely for trade, not the country's governance and control. And those same folk in the 70's who fought to keep the country would therefore understand this fundamental difference even if your ilk don't.

I've 16 year old twins and they cannot believe their future has been compromised by 65 year old retired Daily Mail readers

This is the real tragedy in all this, I've got 6month old twins and can't believe that their own grandparents have ****ed them over.

This is the real tragedy in all this, I've got 6month old twins and can't believe that their own grandparents have **** them over.

One of my aunts voted leave to make life better for her grand children.

It's alright, I don't talk to her anymore.

You would have to let 16 year olds vote.

This is the real tragedy in all this, I've got 6month old twins and can't believe that their own grandparents have **** them over.

As you well know alternative optimistic views of the future exist. We are economically far better off outside the EU than in it imo

ok at the map you are European. Embrace all that it offers.
Don't lock yourself away in the darkness come and join the party.
All are welcome.

Europe yes, EU no. That was a Leave Campaign tagline. I love Europe, however I absolutely don't want to be in a political union with it. As you probably know my second wife is French, I spend a lot of time in France. Always have. I have never wanted anything more than an economic relationship with the country.

As you well know alternative optimistic views of the future exist

Even you accept all other EU countries will lose out we just need you to accept we will as well

We are economically far better off outside the EU than in it imo

Facts to support this please, otherwise it's just opinion. As the Captain pointed out above opinions are worthless.

For the avoidance of doubt facts from a non-biased source, properly checked not your interpretation of them.

Can we keep it to one thread? Same arguments by same people.

[i]We are economically far better off outside the EU than in it imo[/i]

Brunettes are more attractive than blondes IMO 🙂

Her majesty's government wishes to ask:

Are you still here and if so, do you need some help booking the removers ?

[url= http://www.the-eurogroup.com/ ]http://www.the-eurogroup.com/[/url]

This thread needs to be merged with the other "EU Referendum - are you in or out?" thread because the issue is the same.

Jamby - member

We are economically far better off outside the EU than in it imo

(a) [b]If[/b] we can retain access to the single market, so that large swathes of industry and services are not destroyed overnight.

*or*

(b) [b]If[/b] we can do super-awesome trade deals with loads of other countries to take up the slack, without being shafted, and in time to prevent large swathes of industry and services being destroyed overnight.

(a) assumes that the European Union won't decide that this is an existential threat.

(b) assumes that our civil servants charged with doing this are up to the job. I know someone in the DTI, and by all accounts, even the good ones are ground down into submission by a vast bureaucracy which mainly exists to stop ministers doing anything. I would not be hopeful.

Do you have any evidence to the contrary?

Surely it should be "are you so bloody stupid to forget that you have done this before?"
Hilarious that those who wanted to stay are playing spoiled brats and want another go. If its out again would you want best of 3? Same with the Scots. Soon sorts out the selfish from the rest doesn't it?

Do you have any evidence to the contrary?

My bet is it'll be very dull and nothing much changes.

Pointless discussion really isn't it? It's those who think that we might financially gain by staying but cannot actually prove it for another hundred years against those who are more interested in a less crowded country. Bit like "do you want custard or Abba?"

This a great thread, full of possibilities 🙂

what has changed for you since to make that change

I voted in because I thought I and the country would be better off. I since found out some reasons why some close friends voted which I hadn't thought of (nothing to do with money or immigration) which have since changed my mind.

Can we keep it to one thread? Same arguments by same people.

A good point. This question is still the best suggestion so far (forgot STW-ers name who suggested it)

[b]Yes/No. Should the Government ignore the results of public Referendums ?[/b]

Pointless discussion really isn't it? It's those who think that we might financially gain by staying but cannot actually prove it for another hundred years against those who are more interested in a less crowded country

Doubt very much brexit will result in a less crowded country. It might change the where some new immigrants hail from. That is unless there is a real economic dump in which case those who can move out of the UK will move out.

I vote custard. 😉

An alternative question to the one I asked earlier, regarding the ridiculous amounts of misinformation spread by both sides before the referendum this past summer...
Should the UK be allowed to become separate states (England, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales), based on how each country votes on whether to leave or remain in Europe?

Northern Ireland and Scotland would leave the UK and remain in Europe, based on the 23rd June results. Would that encourage the remain voters (from the likes of London; Manchester; Liverpool etc.) to move (and probably encourage economic growth) in Scotland and NI, while freeing up a lot of housing in England (one of my main reasons for voting out was my despair about the lack of affordable rent/buy housing for the increasing population size since ~1990)?

ewkw - Member
This thread needs to be merged with the other "EU Referendum - are you in or out?" thread because the issue is the same.

chewkw - Member
This thread needs to be merged with the other "EU Referendum - are you in or out?" thread because the issue is the same.

No no no chew. All the EU Referendum threads should be merged into the one I started in 2015 because then I could see my name next to a 20,000 post thread and be an instant STW legend 😉

I think you're already a STW legend.

Has anyone thought of the kittens?

Yes/No. Should the Government ignore the results of public Referendums ?

Amusingly, either answer could result in a range of outcomes.

are you afraid of foreigners or do you merely hate them?

jambalaya - Member

chewkw - Member
This thread needs to be merged with the other "EU Referendum - are you in or out?" thread because the issue is the same.

No no no chew. All the EU Referendum threads should be merged into the one I started in 2015 because then I could see my name next to a 20,000 post thread and be an instant STW legend

Note to self ... must start new topic to break record ...

If its out again would you want best of 3?

Well that's not a very sensible question, is it?

This question is still the best suggestion so far (forgot STW-ers name who suggested it)

Yes/No. Should the Government ignore the results of public Referendums ?

Yes/No. If the Government is to be bound by the result of a referendum it should have taken the available option to make that referendum legally binding.

And that the electorate are given facts rather than blatant lies.

[i]I voted in because I thought I and the country would be better off. I since found out some reasons why some close friends voted which I hadn't thought of (nothing to do with money or immigration) which have since changed my mind. [/I]

Mind sharing them newrobdob?

zippykona - Member
And that the electorate are given facts rather than blatant lies.