I've got a fridge pack of the reduced salt and sugar ones. They're grand.
Oh here's a lead from a body building site:
Baked beans may have a small effect on blood glucose [...], but the overcooked proteins have a big effect on blood insulin
From http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/are-baked-beans-low-gi-conflicting-data-m914893.aspx
Interesting.
Also this link http://www.mendosa.com/insulin_index.htm has a table which puts cheese as low insulin, SOME fruit as low and muesli as low, comparable with meats.. and pasta is also low..hmm..
Anyone got an iDave meal suggestion for tonight please?
I'm thinking steak and....
Burnt 1000 calories on the spin bike at lunch and all I can think about is food 🙁
Steak and butter beanz and mushroomz and chickpeaz and gram flour flatbredz.
steak and....STEAK !
@TSY
Fish finger sandwich.
No chips?
I'm also thinking slow rosasted lamb shank. Not that quick to make, but...
I have fish fingers Jamie... I could use steak as bread?
Steak and asparagus?
or a mixture of borlotti beans, red onions, stock, tinned toms and paprika?
or on a bed of quinoa?
I also have some burgers.
Fish fingers in burgers? It's like the ultimate surf & turf.
Now I'm worrying about my own bean stew.. they are well cooked beans just like the baked ones. I could be better off with pasta.
Are tinned beans out generally then? As in kidney, borlotti, black eyed, cannellini from tins? Just about to make a chilli 😕
Well I dunno. If they are then I am totally screwed. I think they are a staple according to iDave.. but I wonder if they get bad if you over-cook them.
Steak and roasted vegetables.
Carrots (blanch them first) onion, squash, peppers, courgettes, mushroom, fennel, tomatoes, etc. splosh of oil and balsamic. Yum.
I wouldn't worry about tinned beans too much (minus baked beans in sweetened sauce) as I get that 'still hungry but I know it is just cravings' feeling after a chilli full of beans (aka the iDave pangs).
From what I can tell, tinned beans are ok, but a little worse than dried beans you prepare and cook yourself. However, on all the insulin index pages I can find it lists cheese as really low and also pasta..... This could be an important discovery.
*grates cheese ready for the chilli*
*high fives Mol* 😀
Cheese schmeese, I'm making spag bol! With pasta!
Chilli here with Black Eyed Beans, Chickpeas, Haricot (not baked) Beans, Kidney Beans, and Borlotti Beans.
Died on my arse and am having it with brown rice 🙁
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Is Brown Rice out?
It's out isn't it!
****!
yep, get some quinoa in your life. It is like rice but on the allowed list. It's quicker to cook too.
I found some old Fox shorts from a couple of years ago that I've never worn.
I can now fit into them after following this type of diet for about a month!
Huzzah! 8)
Nice one on both counts (i'm a big fan of fox shorts)
molgrips - Member
Cheese schmeese, I'm making spag bol! With pasta!
Isn't that the kind of thing you would eat pre-diet? The kind of stuff which got you to a place where you wanted to lose weight?
Don't be tempted by muesli either, it might be low on the list but you don't know what kind of muesli it was, but more important you'll add milk to it. Back on the path, don't waiver.
I like the chili without rice. Although rice is nice, I can manage fine without. A little more water and it's American style chilli soup and doesn't need rice 🙂
Jon, I ate a very large number of 'banned' things pre-diet, so attributing the extra kgs to spag bol is not really scientific. However doing a controlled study and measuring insulin in subjects is quite scientific, so I'd be inclined to pay more attention to those results 🙂
Not sure I'm willing to go for pasta, seems so counter-intuitive. But beans with pasta sauce is pretty rubbish.
Me no like soup in the evening. Anyway, I think brown rice has got to be better than white hasn't it?
No, it's the same.
Chilli soup by the way is slightly runny chilli not actual soup.
Good point about the milk on muesli. However when I was at my lowest weight in Germanland I was eating it in the mornings for commuting fuel and eating twixes frequently. So who knows!
I know what chilli soup is Mol!
Mol... The study might have been scientific, but the way we've each read it isn't - we don't know enough about the study or subject area to make informed analysis of its content. Reading a single article is useless, and more so when you're not an expert in the area.
The plan is working for you, right? Why change what you know is working? 🙂
Anyone got any ideas for snacks, feeling weak between meals. Eating plenty when i do eat. brekky at about 07.30 ish, and don't get chance for lunch till 1400, due to shift i'm on at present, don't get home till 20.30, not really hunger as such, but feeling a bit weak between meals.Drinking plenty of water. Blood suger throughout the day is between 4 and 5 mmol, so slow carb doing its job, just need something rather than almonds to snack on. Halfway through week 3 so far. Anyone tried combining slo carb with a paleo type diet, to include some fruit etc?
Nuts.
...and just a couple to keep things ticking over.
I cooked some more gram bread things last night, tried one this morning with marmite. It was ****ing disgusting. So bad in fact Im going to get drunk tonight and eat some crisps.
Scruffwhassup bad the flatbread or the marmite addition? Now finishdtheblast of my lorry tyre batch, gonna make some proper ones tomorrow night. I rode 25 mile round trip to see mate last night and had 3 pints of bitter to fuel the ride home, I have missed beer! Snacks for me are usually nuts or chick pea flat breads or celery sticks spread with peanut butter, or I just scoff loads of ham or eat a tin of tuna, its not excing but it does the job
Large part of that last made little sense...I phone typing
If I know I'll need a snack between meals I usually buy slices of poncy ham or similar from Tesco (stuff that's not fatty or too processed), not sure if that's strictly a good idea but I find if I resort to nuts I'll eat too many :p
pleased to announce that my cauliflower and parsnip mashed potato substitute* was roundly approved of by my kids who declared it even better than mashed spuds. Added a bit of garlic and olive oil.
*ashamed Irishman
jamest, I tried without salt as the other ones were a bit salty, lady at work says salt does special magic things in cookery, so I'll keep the salt in next time. I need to find something to eat with marmite in the morning.
Dave, thought you were Oirish ?
Turnip is nicer...are turnips in? (Swedes I believe they are called here)
iDave is iRish.
Dave, thought you were Oirish ?
He is. Hence being ashamed in ignoring the humble potato.
also tried a kind of energy bar - gram flour, loads of pine nuts, some flax seeds, salt, an egg, caraway seeds, chili - made it quite thick and baked. needs further development but not bad.
iBar ?
Out tonight Dave ?
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I think a gram flour energy bar could be good idea might try this. My recent lorry tyre flatbreads were caused by too much gram flour in the mix, made em really dense, for an energy bar this would be ideal though.
Scruff - yes salt does do magic things in baking you need it
iDave - Member
pleased to announce that my cauliflower and parsnip mashed potato substitute* was roundly approved of by my kids who declared it even better than mashed spuds. Added a bit of garlic and olive oil.
I tried that in the States once. I complemented the cook on the best mash potatoes i'd ever had and i couldn't believe it was mainly cauliflower.
If parsnips are in, does that mean Jerusalem artichokes are OK?
