[Closed] iDaves Diet Plan Members...

I gave this a lash for a couple of days but I just folded, total lack of energy. I still found it beneficial to analyse my diet and see where I was being lazy or making excuses for myself.

I will definitely cut way back on bread and be a lot more conscious of over-consuming carbs when I'm not exercising. It also made me aware of the massive amounts of dairy I go through, so I will try and be more sensible with that. I thought I would take to it pretty well as I eat a lot of salads, stir-frys etc, but it just wasn't working for me.

Molgrips, would that be for breakfast? I had read one of the previous posts that said not to eat them as it hampers losing weight? I suppose a small handful of them for eating in the car? Also could be good for when out cycling....

I thought Tomatoes are a fruit and therefore not allowed?? Can anyone clarify as this would open up alot more recipies for me.

Thanks

Ive been eating tomatos as when applying the custard rule, they are veg for the purposes of this eating plan 😀

I'm into my second week on the plan and have lost about 9lb so far. I've stuck to the plan pretty religiously; the usual chorizo omelette and black coffee breakfasts, lots of beans, veg, fish, meat lunches and meals and no booze. My days off (only one so far) have not been a binge, just eating and drinking normally.

I've been doing more cycling than I was before I was on the plan (~100 miles/wk now vs ~20 miles before), partly as I'm getting some training in before the Exmoor Explorer at the weekend, but also as I want to get fitter as well as lose weight. I've found that although my energy levels are fine through the day doing sedentary work, I run out of steam on the bike quickly (after maybe 1.5 hrs). However, I went out for a ride on Monday and felt great though, but I think that that was probably due to a store of carbs from my saturday off perhaps, as last nights ride was back to running out of energy. I'm not taking on any carbs before, during or after riding so I expect that that is the cause, but I want to stick to the plan properly for the 3 weeks before I start tweaking it.

For the Explorer at the weekend, I'll be carb loading during my day off on saturday which still complies to the plan(!), but I'll definitely take some flapjacks or something with me on the day.

Hi, I've been following everyone's progress over the last month or so and have decided I'd like to have a go myself at the diet plan. Could someone please email me details on fionaclelland84@gmaildotcom?

Re nuts - that's the controversial bit. They are very high in fat, which on a conventional diet would make them bad. However on the iDave diet plan they would work. I guess because they are very filling.

I don't eat em, but I am not on the iDave plan 🙂

I doubt they'd make good riding food because they don't have that much carbs and are slow and harder to digest, but iDave might think differently I dunno 🙂

Having said that, at the very extreme end of a very long distance (and otherwise poorly nourished) ride, all I could get down me was nuts - perhaps because of the salt. Weird, because I'd totally run out of water and was very thirsty too.

Cat.

yhm

I'm into week 4 now and have probably stuck to the plan (about 80% of it) for about 5 days out of 7. The pounds came off in the first couple of weeks but now things have settled. However, I'm convinced that if I was to go strict for another week then 4-5lbs would drop off.

I certainly feel more educated about food groups now though. Still don't miss bread, tatoes or pasta.

And one of the pro's is that my breakfast tends to consist of courgette/tomatoes/egg(s)/chorizo or salami or bacon/olives/mushrooms/cheese - i.e. a pizza without the carb-heavy base. And it tastes ****in lovely.

2 days into week three and I have lost just over 9 pounds. Stuck to the food rules next to purfectly (minus a roll with a burger at a festival) but still been hitting the beers a little too much. Not missing eating anything and really enjoying the breakfasts!

Now, my brother competes in Iron Man races and likes the sound of this diet for an out of training, fat leaning programme over winter. He was also wondering if iDave has a diet for full on training for 10+ hours a week as he's not too sure if he's eating the right foods (although I think he knows more than he is letting on)?

Cheers,
Will

Well weighed in this morning and at the end of week three Ive now lost just over 13 pounds 😀 Im very happy so far and feel a lot better for it. A long way to go, but this has changed the way Im looking at food, and overall havent been hungry at all.
Have been for a few meals to Italian restaurants which I thought would be a nightmare, but had a bean and sausage stew at one, and a Veal and mushrrom stew, with salad at the other. So didnt devaite from the plan too much. Did have a severe craving for chocolate one night, and bought a bar of Lindt 85% cocoa choc, and had one square which I nibbled at. Totally satisfied the craving. Day off tomorrow so will have a few beers, and a goody or two throughout the day. Going for another 2 hour ride also, so shouldnt dent things too much 😀

[i]SpaceMonkey[/i]
[i]I certainly feel more educated about food groups now though. Still don't miss bread, tatoes or pasta.[/i]

[i]Milfredo[/i]
[i]Not missing eating anything[/i]

[i]Scottyjohn[/i]
[i]but this has changed the way Im looking at food, and overall havent been hungry at all[/i]

In my opinion, this is all good stuff, and my congrats to those who are learning to incorporate the guidelines into their future, long term eating habits.

Coincidentally, I caught the end of a radio interview on R4, earlier this week, with......
The head of weight-watchers.
He actually said "Diets don't work" !!!!
Wow Mr WW, thats a global business you're holing below the water line !.
Well not exactly.
He mitigated that statement by saying that "[i]Diet[/i]" as in a short term eating regime, to reach a target weight, but then drifting back to what you ate before, will lead to weight going back on.

I was amazed to listen to this guy on the radio, and felt pleased that he was echoing what we have been saying and learning on this thread.

Where as some of us may have understood that a diet as a short term eating regime, may not work. I for one wasn't sure how to modify my diet to achieve the results we are now seeing.

This is where iDave's help has scored big points with me. With his guidelines I have now re-jigged my eating habits, for what I believe is the long term good.

I am now leaner and lighter, and I'm happy with how its worked out.

[i]Day off tomorrow so will have a few beers, and a goody or two throughout the day[/i]
This is a great line, its how my days off are.
I don't get up on the morning of my day off, and lead a full-scale assault on the kitchen. Its just another day, but on that day, when meal times come round, I may have that cheese sandwich, and come the evening, I'll certainly sink a few beers, maybe even a piece of choc. But I don't go mad.

Thumbs up to everyone whos given it a try, whether its worked for them or not, at least we've all had a bash at it.

😀

Solo
(Sorry for the editing, I pressed "send post" too early)

So I'm now in week whatever of this plan I was my lightest so far yesterday morning at 12.6 this morning I'm 12.8 😆

This is frustrating as I did not follow the plan from saturday through to monday (meeting friends plus carnival), then following it on tuesday I put on a lot of weight.

My reason for posting is to ask how to shift myself out of the mid 12's as I have been here for around 3 to 4 weeks now. I cycle 14 miles daily Monday to Friday am I really going to have to incorporate more cardio into my day? For reference most of the fat seems to reside around my belly as my legs are strong from cycling. Would upper body weight training help?

Thanks

Tails.

Perhaps this is one of those few occassions when an e-mail to iDave may be in order, for better understanding of why you might have levelled out, or just for additional info.

I know hes not wanting to "[i]hold hands[/i]" and I see what he means after so many have expressed and interest, replying to every question from every person who has wanted to give this a try, would be a huge task.

But I would hope that the odd e-mail isn't the end of the world.
😉

Your best bet for losing the additional weight is just consume less calories and do a bit more exercise.

Think iDaves gone to Cornwall in his little noddy car.

Day 1 today - 14st 8lbs, we'll see how we get on 🙂

Your first 2 weeks will be amazing tiger you lose a lot in the first phase.

Then?

Then for me it has slowed down and I'm losing not much a pound a week perhaps, I don't keep a diary so can't be to sure.

Hmmm! I have a similar diet in that I eat a lot of lentils/beans/quinoa etc as a main meal, but differ from iDave in that I have cereal for breakfast and lots and lots of fruit.

After losing weight steadily and I think permanently, I have reached a point where a change might be in order as the last couple of kilos are being a bit stubborn. Changing to eggs and veg might be good for the last push.

Cereal seems to work for me as I generally try to train in the mornings (70-75km) and just eat bananas during the ride and I'm a bit concerned that eggs and veg might not be enough!

Nothing ventured, nothing lost! 😆

That's what I'm hoping for tbh.

A "[i]Big drop[/i]" then back onto to sensible eating, been losing weight steady since the start of the year. I've just put a few pounds on through a lack of dicipline and exercise over the past few weeks.

Gonna keep a diary of it to see how the cals and sat fat stack up which is how I've been losing weight before.

Sometimes I need a radical change and something different to focus on or I tend to drift.

Could i get a copy of the plan please?
jimbrown306@hotmail.co.uk

Thanks

I read something on that nutrition page that was linked to from the 24 hour solo blog that was posted on here that outlined a very similar approach to iDave, ie no refined carbs.

It actually said 'no grains' though, and then went on to recommend porridge for breakfast.

Eh?

yeah i did start eating plum loaf in the morning as eating eggs every morning is not fun.

The most important thing is not to go near white carbs in the evening as they just sit there unused and by the morning "BANG" 2 pounds gained.

I don't really miss potatoes and bread that much and do eat them if I go out for food. You'll learn a lot about salad there are so many nice salads.

don simon I reckon if you followed the diet/eating plan religiously for 2 to 3 weeks you'd shift what you want, though if your doing that kind of distance every morning I'm surprised your over weight.

The most important thing is not to go near white carbs in the evening as they just sit there unused and by the morning "BANG" 2 pounds gained.

I don't think that's true at all.

Right I'm starting this today. Only read a few pages of the comments on this thread so far, but its looking good to me.

Want to loose about a stone of jelly around my waste, and eating more healthily sounds like a goodun to me.

I'm weighing in at just over 12 stone at 5'10" and if I make it to 11 I'll be a happy man 😉

Off to shop for nice healthy things now....

The most important thing is not to go near white carbs in the evening as they just sit there unused and by the morning "BANG" 2 pounds gained.

I don't think that's true at all.

I know it's probably not but if I start eating bread again or have rice/pasta at night, it definitely feels like I have put on a couple of pounds, whereas a day of protein and veg seems to work the opposite.

Bread does seem to be something that both my wife and I blame for our now "sturdy" midrifs. Been on the plan now since Sunday and, although it may be an optical illusion, I think I see a slight reduction in gut.

Unfortunately, we have no scales in the house, so to weigh myself, I either have to go into town and get to Boots, or go to the local vets and use their dog weighing scales. That's sure to be good for a laugh.

Perhaps just buy some scales from say amazon?? Carbs after certain time do just stay there unused but there is hope really limit them especially in the evening. Good luck willard!

2lbs of fat = 7000 calories. You certainly didn't eat three whole days worth of food in pure carb form in an evening meal!

It can make you feel bloated, but that's to do with how you personally digest them I think.

Why do people on this forum take everything so literally!

the point I'm making is say if you took 200 people all the same weight and let half of them have "white" carbs in the evening and the others had the same meal excluding "white" carbs the carb eaters would be fatter/heavier after say one month. we don't need slow release energy in the evenings in my opinion.

if you took 200 people all the same weight and let half of them have "white" carbs in the evening and the others had the same meal excluding "white" carbs the carb eaters would be fatter/heavier after say one month.

we don't need slow release energy in the evenings in my opinion.

Can someone mail it me please.
Thanks in advance.
sipritch at hotmail.co.uk

Going to be giving this a shot in a couple of weeks time, it should be a bit more convinient then, hence the delay!

Is porriage okay, or is that on the banned list (I am trying to work out if the banned cereals rule it out - thinking ahead to winter!)

Also - tomato, is that in or out as it is technically a fruit???

I am sure there are loads of other things I will need to ask about, but it I get myself sorted before I go shopping it will mean no costly errors 😉

Been on the plan now since Sunday and, although it may be an optical illusion, I think I see a slight reduction in gut.

IME clothes fit is a much better indication of progress although the scales do provide a nice 'proof' if you need it. Just don't weigh yourself too often as weight fluctuates on a daily basis, once a week is more than enough.

I've altered my eating habits and am still at the -20lbs mark from start around 10 weeks ago. I didn't follow idaves plan but something similar and now find I can eat what I want the majority of the time and my body seems to be able to cope much better and not put on weight. The one time since starting this when I felt I had put on a weight (and it took a good few days of serious pigging out), literally a couple of days of cutting out the bad stuff 're-aligned' things and the excess dropped off.

your experiment is floored as the non-carb eaters have a smaller meal.

Your spelling is also flawed 😉

your experiment is floored as the non-carb eaters have a smaller meal.

Not if they have more protein/veg in place of the carbs.

FFS you would think this was some laboratory controlled experiment 🙄

Not if they have more protein/veg in place of the carbs.

To be honest, I do think the removal of the grain based carb sources do eventually lead to one eating less. Which on the whole probably brings portion sizes down to what they actually should be.

Would very much like to know about the tomato thing... not trolling. Also eyeing up an avocado, would they be good or bad....

thanks

let half of them have "white" carbs in the evening and the others had the same meal excluding "white" carbs

As above, it's been shown all over the place that it doesn't make any difference when you eat your food. Your body has storage systems that buffer what you eat.

I'd like to give this a go, can someone send me the info please?

At 14.5 - 15st I'd like to shed a couple of stone...

Your body has storage systems that buffer what you eat.

Which is why I try to eat every 3 hours - theory is that because the body has a regular supply of food it no longer automatically stores the excess as fat for times of 'famine'. This includes making sure to have a protein snack eating before going to bed.

It appears to work and where's the hardship in eating every 3 hours. I like it 🙂

could someone send me an e mail please with details on!

I am interested to have a read.

david.richardson123@hotmail.co.uk

Could somebody send me the plan if they get a second. Thanks.

Antonyfw@gmail.com