[Closed] I want to be a lawyer...

you should do it if you think you can. I couldn't.

If you have a black cape, fangs and you suck the life out of other living creatures, then yes! It's the job for you

260 quid per hour and 2-3 hours to write a letter

I'll rise to the troll...

£260 per hour less staff (secretarial etc) costs, rent, heating, power and related overheads, professional membership, cost of several years of training.

2-3 hours will also include time taking your instructions, any necessary research, and probably includes an hour allocated for listening to you warbling on about high fees. 😉

HTH

The wife works with them every day, she thinks most of them are ****s

No troll, I'm just speechless.
The letter will, I imagine be a pretty standard 'you've been a naughty boy and we're going to do this, so how do you respond?' run of the mill letter. What do they have to research? They're lawyers, they know the law and how to write it, no?

If it is a run of the mill letter, I'm sure you could find someone to do it for a lot less than £520-£780.

98% of lawyers give the rest a bad name.

I want to be a gas fitter based on the quote I got last week. £275 + VAT to disconnect a freestanding cooker and connect a new one. Unreal

When I worked in private practice, I used to be charged to clients at £285 ph. That was a discounted rate.

I worked 60-100 hours a week. Based on the lower figure, I earned £17 ph.

Being a lawyer in a law firm is a *** job, and I'd never go back.

same as OMITN.

Not a lawyer, but I was charged out to clients at around £200-250 ph. My salary before tax worked out at around £20ph. As a freelancer I charge my clients less than a half what they used to pay, but now it's all mine, so I work 75% less hours instead. And my overheads are far, far lower since I dont end up giving the partnership equity holders massive bonuses anymore!

Lawyer ain't getting paid his/her charge out rate - think 33% of that before tax.

Partners get that themselves though plus 33% of what their team fees.

Naw, become a paedophile...........less training involved and ye'll be slightly more popular in society.

1/3 of £260 = £85+ p/hour

I told my daughter to get a proper job but she always wanted to be a lawyer for some reason..............................a well, there are worse things I suppose - she could be an estate agent 😉

1/3 of £260 = £85+ p/hour

No way. My figures above are a more accurate representation. That was when I was a six year qualified lawyer in one of the (non London) UK offices of a top 10 firm.

ourman

I know what my daughter earns and can only assume you earned that quite a while ago. She is in London and magic circle btw.

Lawyers earn good money, yes... but the salary rockets when they become a partner in a firm.

And I don't want to be a web designer when a client tells me that someone else has quoted them £299 for a designed, built, managed, hosted and fully functioning e-comms site.

🙁

what's black and white and looks good on a lawyer?

a pit bull

The girl I spoke to was a partner and offered discount through the trainees dropping the hourly rate to 120 quid per hour.
Best option to go for chaps?
Partner for an outlay of close to 1k inc VAT
Or a trainee/junior with a total of 500 quid?
Advantages/disadvantages?

Trainee, on the basis that if they don't know what they are doing, they will run it past the partner anyway.

It'll just be downloaded from the web anyway.

I'm more interested in what this letter might be about.... 😉

Best thing is as a Lawyer you can get paid £85 per hour and spend most of your time on here.

what kind of law and firm?

Trainee, on the basis that if they don't know what they are doing, they will run it past the partner anyway.

She was quite open about this and said that she would give the letter the once over and, of course, charge me for the effort.

Patience dd, you'll get to read it soon enough... 😈

Is that at me cynic-al?

you'll get to read it soon enough

Oi didn't do nuffin'

I work 60 - 70 hours per week as a lawyer. Until very recently my salary worked out at £9.61 gross per hour applying the lower figure.

I work 60 - 70 hours per week as a lawyer. Until very recently my salary worked out at £9.61 gross per hour applying the lower figure

Nope. Not a trainee. Don't do conveyancing. Handled two of the largest PI claims in the region last year.

Just work in a region where £30 - £35k is the upper limit for an assistant. Desperately trying to persuade the wife to let me Monday to Friday in England.

Find out if the trainee is a first seater, second seater, third seater or fourth seater. World of difference between a first seater and a third seater. Only accept at least a third seater.

£18K pa WTF111

d-s - yes.

Q. What do you call 1,000 lawyers at the bottom of the sea?

A. A good start.

Did you know that women can conceive through anal sex?

That's where lawyers come from!

"I'm in the wrong job!!! "
or very bad at hiring lawyers or very good at hiring lawyers but unwilling to pay for quality .

My publicly funded work ranges between £46 and £69 per hour £52 per hour is the best available for night time or Xmas day . Or in exceptional VHCC work £100 per hour.

For private clients we charge up to £160 per hour. I tend to quote £140 but actually bill at £130. I've 20 years experience and a full set of the relevant extra qualifications for my area.

As mentioned above the hourly rate covers the cost of running the firm staff buildings paper computers books etc.

Actual pay scales are pretty varied but you are looking at between 40 and 50 k per annum top end unless you take on the genuine risk of partnership . The country is full of law firms where the partners soldier on in debt can't afford to retire and can't find anyone to buy them out.

How can you tell the difference between a dead dog in the road and a dead lawyer?

There are tyre skid marks before you get to the dog.

cynic-al - Member

what kind of law and firm?

Intellectual property. Specialised and therefore expensive, I'm now looking a adjusting my hourly rate accordingly as I now have increased costs to cover. 😈

I agree with Crankboy. There are a lot of people who desperately want out of the profession or at least out of private practice who cannot afford to do so.

I feel sorry for a friend of mine...

He studied Law at Reading University (2:1), took the LPC at the College of Law in Guildford (or is it BPC, one of them anyway) then applied to over 200 firms before being offered a training contract at a decent sized firm in Reading. His training contract coincided with the recession and they only kept one of his intake of 8 on at the end of it.
He's applied for all sorts of posts around the country since, but has had no luck and after 2 years has jacked it in.

Now he's trying to establish himself as a web designer, but is getting screwed over by clients who take forever and a day to pay him. 31 years old and living with his parents again in rural Dorset...not really the life he had envisaged.

Legal Executives seem to be suffering to, they seem to be the first out of the door. Those ILEX exams take years to complete and then they find themselves earning just a few grand more than paralegals and legal secretaries.

Don Simon are you an ex examiner?

I heard he's a Bottom Inspector.

different to you who are a bottom feeder Al?

Pigface - Member

Don Simon are you an ex examiner?

As in you have an ex that you'd like me to examine? Could be arranged I suppose. An ex examiner in what?

@ Al it might be said I have seen a few bottoms on here.

Patent Examiner at the IPO

No.