[Closed] I know that this a typically centre right forum..

You had a look and thought, I know what this forum needs today, another "who to vote for" thread. 🙄

The Greens are essentially left wing arse hats, and on that basis I'm oot.

to be fair... there wasn't one on the first page when posted, and I'm a bit too jaded with this gaff for bothering to look at the second page..

can anyone point me in the direction of todays most longwinded and disgruntled 'who to vote for' thread then perhaps?

middle englanders !! why, you .... *****

[url= http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/i-know-that-this-a-typically-centre-right-forum ]Here you go[/url]

Greens are lovely, but they are a bit like an environmental BNP. They have no sensible policy, just lots of nice ideas. Main plans for education involve solar panels on the school roof and environmental science lessons. Like I say, nice and good ideas, but not politically viable in the current climate.

Here you go

arghh, I hate it when someone beats me to an old joke 🙂

googles recursion

again

isn't that essentially just a myth perpetrated by the dead eyed disciples of the Eton Mafia Meehaja?

...with a handful of outspoken lefties,

nice to be appreciated.

[quote=enfht ]The Greens are essentially left wing arse hats, and on that basis I'm oot.

Did you manage to choose between UKIP and the BNP then?

[i]Like I say, nice and good ideas, but not politically viable in the current climate. [/i]

20mph speed limit in residential areas is one policy.

The loons!

they are a bit like an environmental BNP. They have no sensible policy, just lots of nice ideas

I hope you're not saying the BNP have lots of nice ideas. I assume not, but it seems to be implied [/pedant]

It is clearly implied and they clearly are saying the greens and the BNP have good ideas - whether they meant to say that i do not know

meehaja - Member

Greens are lovely, but they are a bit like an environmental BNP. They have no sensible policy, just lots of nice ideas. Main plans for education involve solar panels on the school roof and environmental science lessons. Like I say, nice and good ideas, but not politically viable in the current climate.

What absolute tosh, you could have actually read their policies before commenting.

LMGTFY: [url= http://policy.greenparty.org.uk/ed.html ]Green Party Education[/url]

I teach environmental science. Had their AS exam today.

Yes but proper subjects were yesterday AA! 😉

not economics then 😉

The Green Party are coming out with policies that would/should be being proposed by a Labour Party actually worthy of the name. But seeing as nowadays theyre just Tories with nicer smiles, then a Green is the only reslistic option for us pinko commie hand wringers.

I've voted for them, and I know plenty of other former labour voters who have, including my dad who's voted labour all his life, but just can't bring himself to do it any more, as they're a bunch of clueless muppets!

What absolute tosh, you could have actually read their policies before commenting.

LMGTFY: Green Party Education

Nice to see policy which I helped write getting quoted...

What do you think of the Green's education policy, AA?

Can't say I take much notice of policy promises, they'll all back out of em if needed and what hits the streets is more likely to be fruits of experts, analysts etc and people who actually know wtf their doing regardless of the politicians in power.

I do however like a general statement of intend and the greens are a bit more likely to leave a few fields unbuilt for my kids to run around in so get my vote.

TBH though being popular on this forum (which they seem to be) is the kiss of death, it'll be a UKIP landslide.

Is anyone doing the responsible thing and voting Green or are you all gonna piss about wasting your democratic right with analysing manifesto lies from the two Eton Mafia teams, 'tactical' votes, shallow cycling based votes and kneejerk nonsense..

Are you talking about local councils or MEPs?
I'm not too sure why anyone even votes for MEPs in the first place. You may as well be voting for who goes in the big brother house for all the power they have.
Still, you've got to admire the audacity of the scam in duping the public into thinking the democratic process they're participating in has anything to do with governance.

Looks like someone wants some attention today.

I voted UKIP in the European elections (just to scare the mainstream parties) and Conservative in the locals. I know I may get barred from this neo-Marxist forum as a consequence, but I'll risk it! 🙂

No.. you won't as it happens.

Frankly, I'm not angry... Just disappointed

Fascist!

The advantage of voting green is that is provides a draw to the left/environmental concerns to counter the UKIP drag to the right. They may not get elected in too many seats (although there is a green councillor in the constituency down the road from me) but it gets the green agenda onto the plates of the main parties.

To be honest the greens are the closest to my political views anyway - but then again I am a swivel eyed left wing...

I voted green. I don't think they would make a great govt (local, national or eu) but I do think that we'd benefit from a greater focus on environmental issues in all areas. Plus in my area they were just behind ukip last time (iirc) for the last seat in the area.

Aha! Oldboy and Olddog may have similar names - but dissimilar viewpoints!

Fascist

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What do you think of the Green's education policy, AA?

Long.... had a quick look. Seems mostly sensible

No.. you won't as it happens.

Frankly, I'm not angry... Just disappointed

Thank you for your open-minded, democratic response, Mark.

Postal vote it's easier

I voted UKIP in the European elections (just to scare the mainstream parties)

Well, if enough people do that it may lead to the mainstream party policies shifting in a UKIP-ish direction.

Is that the kind of thing you're after?

Well, if enough people do that it may lead to the mainstream party policies shifting in a UKIP-ish direction.

Is that the kind of thing you're after?

Err ... why not?

This thread is clearly ignorant of the Plaid Cymru option, or it would have closed many posts ago.

I'll be voting green again, as a leftie I think it's the best option. Mind you I voted lib dem at the last general election as clegg is my mp, so what do I know.

You're right THM AS Biology was yesterday.

Voted Green reluctantly, the problem being with them supporting Yes in Scotland, but to be frank I stood staring at the options on the ballot paper and there really weren't any.

Voted Green for the first time today. Labour are now just Tories and I voted LibDem in the general election: never again.

I disagree with their nuclear power policy, but you can't have everything.

I've voted for them, and I know plenty of other former labour voters who have, including my dad who's voted labour all his life, but just can't bring himself to do it any more, as they're a bunch of clueless muppets!

Green in Europe, Labour for the local Council.

Don't agree with the Greens on a few things (fuel duty, Scotland) but I agree with them on pretty much everything else.
Have voted for them in every Euro election I can remember now.

Very tempted by the 'large picture of a cock and balls' option for the council tbh.

I'm a water melon, green on the outside, with tory values on the inside.

I was disappointed to see UKIP and BNP represented on the ballot paper, have we not seen enough of the far right wing to thing that it's definitely not a good thing?

Voted Green for my three councilors, but although the Green Party's policy towards the EU is far better than the Tories, Labour, and the LibDems, I voted No2EU in the EU election.

There's really no point rejecting neoliberalisn in the UK elections but then embracing it in the EU elections, although this is an argument which clearly has a very long way to go before it has been won. I disagree with the Green Party that the EU can be reformed to serve the needs of ordinary working people. It's not designed for that.

The local wind farm are offering me a yearly bribe. I'm now in favour of wind farms. A yearly contribution from the greens would get my vote. Until then I'd rather eat my dog.

[quote=ernie_lynch ]There's really no point rejecting neoliberalisn in the UK elections [s]but then embracing it in the EU elections[/s]

FTFY, given you seem to be forgetting that the EU isn't actually democratic.

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I don't know why you think I have "forgotten" that the EU is undemocratic, I am fully aware it is (as is the Green Party btw) and I'm not likely to forget.

(as is the Green Party btw)

What's undemocratic about the Green Party?

(I'll be honest, I've got a bloody great list of stuff, I'm just wondering what your particular issues with them are)

I voted green. Not because I think they'd make a great government but because I think they'll make great MEP's. They're a sensible and thoughtful vote in Europe.

We also had a local election slip so I voted Labour since the only other candidate was an evil tory.

I voted Green, but can't help but wonder if it's a wasted vote.
I mean people (you know, that lot, out there) LOVE swearword celebs. Are there any celebs in the Green party? NO Farage is a celeb (to them).
Then there's the OI! Look at ME! "ads" on the voting paper. How are they allowed to do that? "I'm English" or something, it said.
Jeez. How many of those [i]people[/i] will ignore that and vote sensibly?

What's undemocratic about the Green Party?

WTF ??? Why does everyone appear to be misinterpreting everything I say ?!

Of course I'm not claiming that the Green Party is undemocratic, I was saying that the Green Party policy towards the EU recognizes that the EU is undemocratic.

Why does everyone appear to be misinterpreting everything I say ?!

[quote=ernie_lynch ]I don't know why you think I have "forgotten" that the EU is undemocratic

Sorry ernie, irony which clearly didn't work - the only reason I'd expect you to have forgotten that is if you'd had a big bump on your head and didn't know what day of the week it is. Though there appears to be an assumption of MEPs having real power in the bit I "corrected".

FTFY, given you seem to be forgetting that the EU isn't actually democratic.

It is democratic, though - your elected representatives, the government, negotiate with the elected representatives of the other countries to chose the EU President. Something similar happens with the UK government and the US President. You can certainly argue that MEPs should have more power, and perhaps we should ditch the EU President and so on as it's a waste of money - but that's a separate argument.

Another household of green party votes here. STW exit poll looks like a landslide 😀

Voted Pirate Party in the EU.

Lib Dem for council although I abhor the Lib Dems at a national level for their great sell-out, at a local level they work well.

Green party is essentially a protest party nothing else. They have good ideas but those ideas are only implementable if the entire world reboot or re-evolved again. i.e. extinct and start again.

If they get into power, If pigs can fly, everyone will farm land and invade another country to turn them into farmers because their ideals outweigh the rest. They will turn themselves "Gods". Long live Cultural revolution! Hang on ...

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seem to be forgetting that the EU isn't actually democratic.

It appears that way because we as a nation/electorate send third-rate and no hoper politicians to ride the gravy train. If we were to send out some able MEP's and engage fully with the project rather than pissing about at the edges and sulking when things don't go our way it might work a bit better for us lower orders.

Maggie and John both quibbled but knew how to make it work for them. They didn't annoy the neighbours so that we always got something from Europe. Now we have a political class who aspire to dictate how Europe will run without fully engaging with the rest of the team who then tell us to do one. The fine art of compromise has been forgotten by the "tolerant" British.

"Ask not what Europe can do of me but more what can I do for Europe" (with apologies to JFK).

I do not disagree tbh

In the UK we have
Unelected head of state based on the hereditary principle
Unelected chamber within our democracy
Unelected members in the executive [ cabinet]

Despite all this we look at Europe and wail about a lack of democracy

Same for unelected bureaucrats - head of OFSTED, Bof E chair etc

its not worse than home tbh

They have good ideas but those ideas are only implementable if the entire world reboot or re-evolved again. i.e. extinct and start again.

Is this based on actual, real Green Party policies, or a cartoon misrepresentation of Green Party policies?

That really is a load of nonsense Sandwich, specially the claim that [i]"we as a nation/electorate send third-rate and no hoper politicians"[/i], when you consider that most the other nations in the EU send far more fascists and neo-nazis to Brussels than the UK does.

Sandwich - Member
"Ask not what Europe can do of me but more what can I do for Europe" (with apologies to JFK).

JFK ... crikey. Slimy. 😯

bokonon - Member
Is this based on actual, real Green Party policies, or a cartoon misrepresentation of Green Party policies?

Many cartoons did not vote them into govt because they think Green Party is going to be leader of cartoon policies? Yes! 😆

Many cartoons did not vote them into govt because they think Green Party is going to be leader of cartoon policies? Yes!

Wow, such jabbering, many writings, very nonsense. Cool story Shibes.

Voted Pirate Party in the EU.

Having just Googled them, I'd have done that as well if I'd heard of them six hours ago.

This all feels a bit pointless doesn't it?

It seems like everyone is voting [i]against[/i] parties, rather than positively [i]for[/i] any one or other.

It seems inevitable that we are just going to end up with a greater [i]variety[/i] of numpties representing us, and hoping that they cancel each other out - the end result being something that's palatable. I think it's just as likely (more?) that they are just going to [i]amplify[/i] each other's numptiness, and we are going to end up with a complete dogs diner.

It'd be interesting to understand whats going on in other countries.

I voted UKIP in the European elections (just to scare the mainstream parties) and Conservative in the locals.

I'm a water melon, green on the outside, with tory values on the inside.

Honeydew melons are Yellow on the outside and Yellow on the inside, mebbies he should have voted LibDem.

As the energy

Given that last election the Greens got 5% and the Lib Dems were only 1% behind the Tories and UKIP seem to be gaining traction, if only through the amount of publicity Farage seems to generate, I voted LibDem.

You decided how to vote based on how the Lib Dems did last election ? How bizarre. Haven't you heard then ?

I just wonder whether the system would be more effective, and as a nation we'd have a little more self esteem and moral fibre if we all just voted for who we would really like to win..

I'm pretty sure in my own mind that people are squandering their vote on this silly game of trying to deduce the possible outcomes... you're not in a ****ing betting shop you hapless morons!

Hopefully, maybe one day, all of us spineless jellyfish can attain the strength of your moral fortitude, Yunki.

Until then, all I can do, is offer to polish the magnificent set of balls swinging from the horse you rode in on to rescue us. I might need a ladder, tho. As they are up quite high.

you're not in a **** betting shop

life is a betting shop

metaphorically

just saying like Jamie.. no need for you to get yer wee lacy knickers in a twist is there now poppet? 😆

Bit stunned byt the number of people on the radio who said they voted UKIP as a protest vote. A protest against what? Rational thought?

just saying like Jamie.. no need for you to get yer wee lacy knickers in a twist is there now poppet?

Can't talk, too busy polishing 8)

A protest against what? Rational thought?

As Stewart Lee once remarked, voting UKIP as a protest vote is like shitting on your hotel bed to protest at bad service, and then having to sleep in it.

feels goooooood 😀