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[Closed] I keep using this phrase wrong: "It is contingent upon me/us" - What's correct?

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I know WHY I'm using it wrong, because 'contingent' could mean 'depending on' as in 'it depends on us completing the task'.

However I'm trying to say 'it is our responsibility' e.g. 'it is our responsibility to complete the task'.

Is there a similar phrase which means the same thing?

Sorry, weird query but I keep catching myself using the phrase for some reason and I know it's not correct.


 
Posted : 08/08/2017 10:05 am
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However I'm trying to say 'it is our responsibility' i.e. 'it is our responsibility to complete the task'.?

Why not just say that then?

It's encumbent upon you to use the simplest language possible.


 
Posted : 08/08/2017 10:07 am
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"incumbent"?


 
Posted : 08/08/2017 10:11 am
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encumbent

Narrows eyes...


 
Posted : 08/08/2017 10:11 am
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It is incumbent upon you to spell correctly too 🙂


 
Posted : 08/08/2017 10:11 am
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I'd start with the simple stuff, it's WRONGLY.


 
Posted : 08/08/2017 10:12 am
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cucumbent?

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Posted : 08/08/2017 10:13 am
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Never use a big word when a diminutive one will suffice.


 
Posted : 08/08/2017 10:13 am
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Is that a bananacumber?


 
Posted : 08/08/2017 10:15 am
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Depends really.... 🙂


 
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Bencumberbatch?

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Posted : 08/08/2017 10:16 am
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LOL! Looks like he's just sh*t the bananacumber!


 
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Cucumberbatch

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Posted : 08/08/2017 10:20 am
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Surreal thread derailment complete.

My work here is done.

Amazing what you can accomplish with one spelling mistake and a bent cucumber. 😉


 
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Cucumbercat?

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Posted : 08/08/2017 10:22 am
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Tears of laughter here...excellent work all.

🙂


 
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Surreal thread derailment complete.

More of a contangent.


 
Posted : 08/08/2017 10:29 am
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Never use a big word when a diminutive one will suffice.

Agreed. There is always something casuistical and sophistical about sesquipedalian loquaciousness.


 
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There is always something casuistical and sophistical about sesquipedalian loquaciousness

+1 😉


 
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Posted : 08/08/2017 10:32 am
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Jacob!

That's a cracker.


 
Posted : 08/08/2017 10:34 am
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It's up tae us...


 
Posted : 08/08/2017 10:41 am
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Is this work related?

Tell them there is a dependency on you and ask them to log it on the RAIDs log.


 
Posted : 08/08/2017 10:42 am
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The utilisation of obfuscatory terminology is deprecated.


 
Posted : 08/08/2017 10:43 am
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Excellent, this thread could not have gone better 😀

I think 'incumbent' was our winner, thanks for that.

I'm 100% guilty of obfuscatory language, doesn't really help in the construction industry either, spend half my time editing my own emails just to de-poncify them 😳

Just consider this a mental itch scratched, it is incumbent upon me not to use this in any emails to subcontractors trying to install basement drainage pipework 8)


 
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it is incumbent upon me not to use this in any emails to subcontractors trying to install basement drainage pipework

Inplumbent?


 
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I know you've found a suitable word to use, but to be boring* and follow up on 'contingent', I think it applies to events not people. So you can't say "It is contingent on the subcontractor to lay the pipework correctly" but you could say "Getting the pipes laid correctly is contingent on the subcontractor's pipelayers being competent".

* The Yellow Pages did originally have an entry "Boring: see Civil Engineers"


 
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The utilisation of obfuscatory terminology is deprecated.

I'm totally stealing that.


 
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I know you've found a suitable word to use, but to be boring* and follow up on 'contingent', I think it applies to events not people. So you can't say "It is contingent on the subcontractor to lay the pipework correctly" but you could say "Getting the pipes laid correctly is contingent on the subcontractor's pipelayers being competent".

So "dependent" then.


 
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I often wonder why it takes people so long to do things. Guess the answer is that they are too busy pissing about trying to justify their job with nonsense like this.

The correct response should be:

Tell Wullie to get his arse in gear and sort oot they pipes, pronto! 😆

Which is clearly where it's going to end up anyhow, after management have finished talking nonsense trying to impress each other.. 😆


 
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I know you've found a suitable word to use, but to be boring* and follow up on 'contingent', I think it applies to events not people. So you can't say "It is contingent on the subcontractor to lay the pipework correctly" but you could say "Getting the pipes laid correctly is contingent on the subcontractor's pipelayers being competent".

Without wishing to encumber you further, would laying a cable be contingent on the successful laying of a pipe, which is contingent on the competence of the incumbent subcontractor? Hopefully there is a plan in place to deal with the contingency of an incompetent incumbent?


 
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Hopefully there is a plan in place to deal with the contingency of an incompetent incumbent?

I think you can get a cream from the chemist....


 
Posted : 08/08/2017 11:40 am
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The utilisation of obfuscatory terminology is deprecated

...you've just paraphrased my Ph.D supervisor.


 
Posted : 08/08/2017 11:41 am
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The correct response should be

Ah but the golden rule of QA is "if it's not written down it didn't happen".


 
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In my previous professional life where I was often in communication with "drainage types" it would be more a case of "connect this *er to that over there".


 
Posted : 08/08/2017 12:03 pm
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Surely the choice of language depends on the exigencies of the situation?


 
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Without wishing to encumber you further, would laying a cable be contingent on the successful laying of a pipe, which is contingent on the competence of the incumbent subcontractor? Hopefully there is a plan in place to deal with the contingency of an incompetent incumbent?

Maybe to mitigate the contingent nature of the job you could get a contingent of sub-contractors in to do the work. Obviously any bonus would be contingent on a successful outcome.


 
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In view of some of the doubts being expressed, may I propose that I recall that after careful consideration, the considered view of the Committee was that, while they considered that the proposal met with broad approval in principle, that some of the principles were sufficiently fundamental in principle, and some of the considerations so complex and finely balanced in practice that in principle it was proposed that the sensible and prudent practice would be to submit the proposal for more detailed consideration, laying stress on the essential continuity of the new proposal with existing principles, the principle of the principal arguments which the proposal proposes and propounds for their approval. In principle.


 
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Syntactical inexactitude.


 
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