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Due to the price of diesel and our mileage rate of 10p a mile I now have the distinct pleasure of paying to work here 😉 you couldnt make it up.
Oh well could be worse 😐
10p a mile? refuse to drive.
40p/mile FTW
40p a mile is what your company gets for you travelling!
I'm guessing you get a company car/allowance though? 😉
10p a mile - wow, that is low.
Is this you driving around between working locations (multiple sites/ visiting clients around and about) or are you a registered home worker visiting the office? Is this a company car?
yep, even a few years ago in my NHS lease car for work I used to subsidise them for about £30 a month in fuel. I suspect most car users would just get disciplined if they refused to drive when they could have. I certainly would have!
Pigface, who do you work for?
That's not the rate HMRC and customs recommends. Mine's currently 11p pm for a 1.8 diesel
Have words with HR.
you do know you can claim the difference between the 10p and 40p back from the taxman if you're using your own car don't you (and somethign similar applies to company cars where you claim back fuel)?
You need to buy a bike!
Sorry sorry sorry Pook is right it is 11p a mile, still doesnt cover my costs, a manager said put a few spurious claims in then. As I said it could be worse I could be without a job.
Work for the offspring of DEFRA.
Do you have a company car or allowance?
Wow it's 30p a mile at my work - that sucks. 🙁
If you've got a company car how about asking to swap it for a model with better fuel economy? That could help.
Personally I simlpy wouldn't do it, at that rate I wouldn't even have started in the first place. I'd tell them I couldn't afford to subsidise my own travel any more and that they should provide me with a hire car and a fuel card.
11p a mile doesn't cover it. You obviously didn't do your sums when you took the job.
11p a mile just about covers the fuel if derv prices are a little lower and you manage 45mpg, but completely omits the increased depreciatation, maintenance and insurance costs, and the fact that your car choice becomes limited to stuff that's suited to munching miles, eliminating little cheap to run cars.
Think more like 20p a mile to run a 3+ year old second hand Mondeo car, and a lot more to run something that's fairly new.
11p a mile doesn't cover it
It should do
it costs me 10.3p/ml for a 2.2 diesel Toyota
Take your foot off the RH pedal a bit more & shop around for fuel
Others here seem to be getting confused with a company supplied car & running your own & claiming mileage
Company supplied recommended rates here
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/cars/advisory_fuel_current.htm
Well, the OP doesn't state whether he's running a company car or his own.
Anyway, as soon as fuel goes over £1.07 / litre, if you're doing 45mpg you're spending over 11p a mile. I never found 45mpg to be a particularly realistic figure in my diesel unless I was very careful how I drove - 60mph on the motorway and masses of anticipation.
And stuff shopping around for fuel unless it's work's time...
Ok, let me get some clarification on my situation here...
I am a company director.
I have a company supplied car.
I fill it up, and claim back my business miles at 11p per mile.
We charge clients 32p per mile.
Am I entitled to claim 52,000miles' worth from the taxman??
If the 11p is the recommended rate for your car - I'd say no
if it's 'yes' I want a load of money back too 😀
Obvious answer seems to be to swap the car for one with an engine capacity of just over 2 litres, pushing you into the 14p band 😆
What is the car & how do you drive it 😉
I have an 8 year old 1.9 tdi with 130K on the clock and can never get the mpg below 45 and frequently top 52 on long journeys (with cruise set at 75-80mph) so you must be very right foot heavy (think of it as your little luxury to yourself!) or drive a right biffer!
Pook yes you are and you can in fact in your tax return claim back the tax on the difference between what you're company pay you for business miles (11p) and what they could pay you (40p for 10k then 25p thereafter).
By my reckoning this would be the tax back on £8780 which is worthwhile however you look at it.
It should do
it costs me 10.3p/ml for a 2.2 diesel Toyota
Take your foot off the RH pedal a bit more & shop around for fuel
Yes, but what about tyres, servicing, tax, MoT, Insurace, depreciation....?
No one pays me to walk to work. It's nearly 500 metres! Should I demand to be pushed there in a wheelchair ? It doesn't seem fair to require me to walk there uncompensated 🙁
Steve - I've just emailed you!
Yes, but what about tyres, servicing, tax, MoT, Insurace, depreciation....?
It's a company supplied car - they pick those bills up
Pook: With regard to what steveh said - this can also, I believe, be backdated to some extent. (previous tax year as well as current?) I know the first year my o/h did this he filled in a couple of forms and got a nice little bonus back for it. And he doesn't do nearly the mileage you have stated. (He has a private car and a monthly car allowance)
Go for it - I smell a nice shiny new toy on the horizon.... 🙂
Steveh & peterpoddy - both wrong surely? How can he possibly claim 29p per mile (difference between 40 and 11p)for 10K miles when it is only costing him less than a penny a mile (i.e. fuel is costing 11 and a bit, but he is only getting 11)?
Read the topic carefully - IT'S A COMPANY CAR.....
You can claim back the difference in tax between 10p and 40p, so if your tax rate is 40%, you get 40% of 20p per mile back from HMRC, 8p
You can claim back the difference in tax between 10p and 40p
I believe this only applies if you're using your own car not a company supplied car
I'll be very happy if that's not the case
Yeah mine's a company car.
Ah, bugger. 🙁
Ignore my shiny horizon comment then... Sorry.
It didn't seem to be adding up!
You can claim the difference from your companies allowance if you do a self assessment as well
http://www.howtoadvice.com/WriteOffAuto
search for hmrc and it will explain it all
This is not a new thing, but also happened back in the late 90's.
As previously said, you can claim the tax back on the difference - but TBH how much are we actually talking about... just throw a cheap lunch receipt in once a month.
That appears to be a US link
Steveh & peterpoddy - both wrong surely? How can he possibly claim 29p per mile (difference between 40 and 11p)for 10K miles when it is only costing him less than a penny a mile (i.e. fuel is costing 11 and a bit, but he is only getting 11)?Read the topic carefully - IT'S A COMPANY CAR.....
Yes, I know. But I was quoting Uplink, who was talking about his car, not the OPs.
Read my posts CAREFULLY! 😛
FWIW, in winter it's 48mpg and summer 53mpg for my 2.0 Passat with the cruise set at 70. Time for a service?
[i]What is the car & how do you drive it
I have an 8 year old 1.9 tdi with 130K on the clock and can never get the mpg below 45 and frequently top 52 on long journeys (with cruise set at 75-80mph) so you must be very right foot heavy (think of it as your little luxury to yourself!) or drive a right biffer![/i]
that depends entirely on your normal route to work; if it involves major conurbations you can easily drop into the high 30s:
my journey is about 28 miles each way. I have a Saab 1.9TD estate, before that I had a BMW 320d estate. In both cars I have, over the last 5 years, averaged no better than 39mpg. The most direct route to work takes me from Baildon, through Shipley & Bradford to the M62 at J27; from there it's motorway all the way to M1 J38.
If there was a motorway link from Baildon to the M62 I'm sure I'd be able to get [i]much[/i] better economy, but in the meantime i'm stuck with the slog from Baildon to the M62. It's only 11 miles but can take over an hour at worst in rush hour. And for those smart alecs who say "set off earlier", ok I could do that, but i'd only get to spend an extra half hour at work...
my journey is about 28 miles each way. I have a Saab 1.9TD estate, before that I had a BMW 320d estate. In both cars I have, over the last 5 years, averaged no better than 39mpg. The most direct route to work takes me from Baildon, through Shipley & Bradford to the M62 at J27; from there it's motorway all the way to M1 J38.
If there was a motorway link from Baildon to the M62 I'm sure I'd be able to get much better economy, but in the meantime i'm stuck with the slog from Baildon to the M62. It's only 11 miles but can take over an hour at worst in rush hour. And for those smart alecs who say "set off earlier", ok I could do that, but i'd only get to spend an extra half hour at work...
I go from Huddersfield to the White Rose centre every day, and with varied private driving I get 47mpg out of my Astra 1.7tdi EcoFlex. Your journey is a nightmare, I've travelled that way at peak times too.
for what it's worth I have to pay £3K a year for my train season ticket. Wish this was tax deductible (or at least from gross rather than net pay)
The Approved Mileage Allowance Payments (AAMPS) had not changed since they were set in 2002 (AAMPS are the 40p/mile for 10k miles, 25p/mile thereafter values).
reports that the average price of UL in 2002 was 72pence/litre.
Petrolprices.com says the current price of UL or Diesel in the UK is £1.15/litre.
I asked HMRC, via my MP, why the rates hadn't been reviewed and adjusted in-line with the rise in fuel costs. I got some wishy-washy reply. Grrr!
The ones for company car drivers changes at least every 6 months
Which adds insult to injury