[Closed] how would you survive when the end of the world comes?

Embrace the lightning. I'd rather die than live in a world full of heavy metal fans.

Eat the slow people who don't have axes or woodburners

Delusional.

Steal everything from the heavy metal fans 😈

Eat the heavy metal fans

they'd taste a bit 'inky' wouldn't they. And not in a posh squid ink risotto sort of way... more like when you're sucking the end of a cheap biro

- and if it's the end of the world, surely the point is that there won't be survivors?

(I'd round up all the pedants and eat them first)

Embrace the lightning. I'd rather die than live in a world full of heavy metal fans.

But embracing the lightning would be so metal, dude

Presumably the only way you'd survive the end of the world is to have access to a spaceship?

padkinson - Member

But embracing the lightning would be so metal, dude

Ride the Lightning, Shirley....?

Standards are slipping..... 😆

"get on yer bike and ride" oooh yeahhhh, those fat bottomed girls. yeah ride it cowboy.

Would you prepare your Heavy metal risotto at home or would you flee to the mountains/ countryside (presuming you can get a parking spot at Swinley) and Ride the Lightning there?

These are all potentially life and death decisions

There's some types of apocalypse I could survive better than most. Til I run out of insulin, then I'll die.

I'd swing by my garage, pick up the truck and supply bags, then head to deepest darkest Wales where I have a cabin waiting(near a trail centre).
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There's some types of apocalypse I could survive better than most. Til I run out of insulin, then I'll die.

You'll be fine, provided you have a steady supply of pancreases:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eva_Saxl

Erm..

The clue is in the title.

You'll be dead.

I love how the doctor with a steady supply of pancreases has a camo tshirt on. He is ready

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I have a log cabin in the Mountains - fresh water from a well and plenty of trees for firewood and all the rivers and lakes are full of trout and salmon

I have a log cabin in the Mountains - fresh water from a well and plenty of trees for firewood and all the rivers and lakes are full of trout and salmon

sounds idyllic.

Until the Metal fans move in next door.......

I have a log cabin in the Mountains - fresh water from a well and plenty of trees for firewood and all the rivers and lakes are full of trout and salmon

If you read any post-apocalypse fiction, first thing they do is poison the wells....

Have you ever looked at a prepper's website? Weird, really weird, and scare. So much so I'd sooner take my chances with the flesh eating zombies.

Well I have good outdoor equipment and I can turn animals into meat so I guess I am better equipped than most. I'd go hide in the highlands.

How many folk on here have turned an animal into food ? - from live animal to dinner.

I've choked a chicken. IGMC

no I've killed chickens and plucked them. Not rocket science though is it? kill said animal, cut up said animal. eat?? perhaps I wouldn't be efficient at it but I'd be OK? Wouldn't I?

perhaps I need a skills course! 😀

I actually had a very vivid and detailed dream about this! Like Northwind, I'd struggle without a steady supply of insulin. I actually dreamed that there'd been an apocalypse, and that I, very tediously had to come into work (I'm a research technician in a genetics lab), and produce my own insulin.

Seriously, I actually dreamt about doing PCR's without a PCR machines.

🙁

.....Tank Girl wasn't even there to help me. 🙁

Have you ever looked at a prepper's website? Weird, really weird, and scare.

yes, in an internet stumble i went from off-road pick ups to preppers.

Some people have shelters, stocked up of course, built in the woods - not on their own land but just in well hidden areas. which they would retreat to when the nuclear winter comes.

Very odd.

howsyourdad1 - Member

I love how the doctor with a steady supply of pancreases has a camo tshirt on. He is ready

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How's a bookshelf going to help?

How many folk on here have turned an animal into food ? - from live animal to dinner.

It's not the most difficult process to follow.

I read this as a kid so I'm sorted.

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Well, if the dead come back to life as zombies, one of them will be Lofty Wiseman, so I'd ask him what to do.

As for survival - it really depends on how the world ends - because no amount of tinned fruit is going to help if an asteroid hits earth, and bottled water is of limited use again ICBMs.

Downfall of society? Nah, Society is bigger and better than Westminster - check this Chap out.

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He's stood there because it's the (slightly daft) right thing to do - people like that will still do that sort of stuff even if the government falls.

Society doesn't need leaders, not for the basics anyway, when it all goes wrong you need your friends and neighbours and they need you. This post-apocalyptic idea that the moment the lights go off we all start eating each other is fiction.

plus we've got three axes.

You'll fit right in with the heavy metal mob then.

Make friends with the neighbours. All the loners like Mr Heavy Metal will just have their carefully prepared stuff taken away from them by people who have banded together about an hour after they've realised the shit has properly hit the fan. We will then make our way to the Highlands and make TJ cook us nice kebabs.

Its interesting we all take our safe society for granted. There are apparently lots of signs it could eventually collapse (probably not in our lifetimes but maybe in 100 years).

Have a read of this
[url= http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20170418-how-western-civilisation-could-collapse ]BBC article[/url]

How many folk on here have turned an animal into food ? - from live animal to dinner.

if fishing counts then yes - see my previous post

also plenty of reindeer, Elk and rabbits around

I've caught fish and eaten them.

I also keep chickens and although I don't do it regularly I've necked one before and curried it.

Plucking it was the hardest part!

interesting BBC article, cheers. You can have an axe when it begins.

" another sign that we’re entering into a danger zone (collapse) , Homer-Dixon says, is the increasing occurrence of what experts call nonlinearities, or sudden, unexpected changes in the world’s order, such as the 2008 economic crisis, the rise of ISIS, [b]Brexit,[/b] or Donald Trump’s election."

Luck.

IF something bad happens then it really depends on where you are in the first instance - on that basis as we live on a small island you are probably done for. The ability to move out of harms way is probably key.

You need to plan for what form the end takes. Thermonuclear war, zombie apocalypse, climate change, asteroid, breakdown of society all a need different plans.

I have Ray Mears on speed dial 🙂

I've recently given this a little bit of thought - having moved into a Proper House I now have room for supply storage. Read a couple of books that my ever-helpful mother-in-law (really) picked up for me from the charity shop.

In the end I decided I would 'prepare' for a minor stumble of civilisation e.g. something that led to a few weeks of fuel/power/food shortages. But the actual collapse? Really couldn't see the point of investing that much time, money and effort to the point of actually being able to ride out a situation that civilisation isn't coming back from.

The sheer quantity of food required - mostly in the form of long-lasting dull filler - to last the recommended year 'self-sufficient' before you can hope to be growing your own is nuts, plus because you have to rotate your stores and eat the old stuff before it expires means you're locking yourself in to eating rice and beans for the rest of your life. And you aren't going to be able to learn and prepare growing your own post-apocalypse so you have to start now. Plus you have to work out how you're going to defend it from everyone else who will want it. It just puts you in a horrible mental state - paranoid, defensive, cynical - and you can tell quite a few intensive preppers actually *want* disaster to strike to validate their lifestyles.

More fundamentally, what would be the point? To live on in a desperate hunter-gatherer/subsistence-farming lifestyle just to continue existing? A real global disaster would be utterly miserable - hiding in your cabin in the woods hoping the bandits don't find you, no idea what's going on, wondering whether that cloud on the horizon is radioactive, if the cut you just gave yourself trying to butcher someone's feral pet is going to turn septic and kill you because there's no antibiotics any more? No thanks...

Unless deliveroo is still working, think I'd be a goner.

More fundamentally, what would be the point? To live on in a desperate hunter-gatherer/subsistence-farming lifestyle just to continue existing? A real global disaster would be utterly miserable - hiding in your cabin in the woods hoping the bandits don't find you, no idea what's going on, wondering whether that cloud on the horizon is radioactive, if the cut you just gave yourself trying to butcher someone's feral pet is going to turn septic and kill you because there's no antibiotics any more? No thanks...

The will to survive is probably pretty crucial.... you are toast 😆

Would it be best to eat the fat people first or the skinny lean ones.. Just wondering how how cake to eat today?

locking yourself in to eating rice and beans for the rest of your life.

Now we know what the vegans are plotting.

Would it be best to eat the fat people first or the skinny lean ones

Skinny first. If you ate the fatties first it'll take longer and the skinnies will have starved to death. Useful for soup i guess. Having a reserve of fat would give a longer 'best before' date i'd have thought

The zombie apocalypse has already happened.

i know this'll get me written off as another chewk-bot, but look around you, zombies, zombies everywhere!

I can't cope with a power cut never mind end of civilization. 😯
I do have a copy of lofty Wisemans SAS survival guide though, so when the end of the world comes you will find me sitting quietly in a corner reading.

When it happens I'll probably step back into my spaceship, retreat to the moon and watch it all play out over a can or two of Special Brew, Penderecki on the stereo.

I read an SAS survival book once.
Unfortunately all I can remember is the section on testicles: "grab, twist, pull!" So basically I'm gonna have to survive on a diet of rocky mountain oysters. On the upside, I think that's iDave compatible

I suspect as far as "fall of civilisation" goes we're more exposed today than we have been for most of advanced civilisation. Very specialised, very infrastructure dependent, very long supply chains with lots of just-in-time for critical supplies, and a lot of people crowded together which is bad in all sorts of ways. The systems we have in place to run the world are phenomenal but so interdependant, and existing in some very stressed systems that aren't under our control.

If it's going to happen, I'll put 20 bottle caps on it starting with a fast sea level change. And I will spend the apocalpyse building a hand-cranked generator and radio transmitter so I can post on STW that I was right.

howsyourdad1 - Member

plus we've got three axes.

So do I but I can't see how that'll help once the power's off

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Mass migration has already started on a scale never before seen. All it takes is a weather event to disrupt enough crops and then even more people will be on the move. Extra demands placed on key services in the recieving countries will result in breakdowns and failures. Throw in a disease or two to spread around and we would soon experience a massive population correction. We are not as far away from such a scenario as many people think.

I'll sit inside a W123 Mercedes-Benz. Guaranteed to survive.

There will be Wi-Fi though, right?

My enthusiasm for surviving would to a large extent depend on the extent to which I might get the blame for the global apocalypse. I mean as I sit here, I'm thinking surely there's no way she can pin that on me..?

Apparently you keep your mouth open in the event of a nuclear attack. Stops your eardrums bursting. I was not aware of that.

Apparently you keep your moth open in the event of a nuclear attack. Stops your eardrums bursting. I was not aware of that.

I reckon when you see that big mushroom cloud in the horizon you mouth will be wide open uttering f.................

talking to a 20 something who had left home for first time, he stated in the event of a nuclear war my overdraft and debts will be gone, and free dowloads and wifi for a few years while they repopulate the call centres with un dead workers.

Couldnt work out if he was that thick or just believed in the daily mail.

The only survival guide you'll ever need

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You also take off all your clothes, especially cycling gear. That rapha top is gonna go up in flames

how would you survive when the end of the world comes?

Imagine if you survive but only to be half dead in pain do you want that?

If the world is coming to an end then I would have BBQ with my family members and enjoy the final moment together ... then we all turn to dust.

However, in the unfortunate circumstances that my family and I live ... then I want guns ... many guns ... more guns ... big guns ... you come near me? You threatening me? Want to speak to me mates Smith and Wesson do you? 😆

then I want guns ... many guns ... more guns ... big guns ... you come near me? You threatening me?

Don't forget the ammunition as you'll just look exceedingly silly if you do.

Depends on the definition of "end of the world". Are we talking nuclear apocalypse with a handful of survivors wandering a radioactive wasteland or just the power going out for a week?

I think even something as "minor" as that would provoke total chaos - riots, looting, army on the streets, rationing. Imagine a total countrywide blackout lasting a week. I mean emergency stuff running off backup generators like hospitals etc would survive (just about) but I think we're worryingly close to that level of chaos without even realising it.

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funkmasterp - Member

... then I want guns ... many guns ... more guns ... big guns ... you come near me? You threatening me?

Don't forget the ammunition as you'll just look exceedingly silly if you do.

Drac - Moderator

Yes, that ... !!! 😆

If everyone is planning on going to the highlands it's going to get pretty busy. That is, before everyone kills each other.

They're running a trial in Maryport, just wait for the report to come in.

kenneththecurtain - Member
If everyone is planning on going to the highlands it's going to get pretty busy. That is, before everyone kills each other.

Quick thoughts;

The main problem is we're likely to have is an endless winter (assuming a nuclear armageddon).

This means crops and animals that rely on crops will be unavailable after the first 6 months, and you have to survive probably 2 years before the air clears enough.

So the answer is to have a 22 singleshot rifle and a shotgun. The 22 is for small game and the shotgun is to encourage any preppers you come across to have community spirit and give all their goodies to you.

Rather than hunt game you can rely on a steady stream of soft southerners coming up to the Highlands - just eat the Tories and help the rest, although that may be too rich a diet.

Basic tools like a catapult are useful at short ranges and don't require the time investment of building an archery arsenal. Ammunition is lying on the ground.

Other tools an axe, machete, wearable knife, a good spade and pick , and you're set for building your own shelter out of the urban areas.

Transport. Singlespeed bike - probably a Surly Big Dummy fully set up would be ideal.

Alternatively become a Mormon now.

If the world is coming to an end then I would have BBQ with my family members

That's the spirit! Get started on the cannibalism early doors......I'm sure they'll be delicious.

Reading a survivalist magazine they reckon a black powder gun would be a good choice. You can make the powder and shot yourself whereas production ammo would be in short supply unless you have stashed a load.

Personally i'd like to be a goner in the first wave.

epicyclo - Member
So the answer is to have a 22 singleshot rifle and a shotgun. The 22 is for small game and the shotgun is to encourage any preppers you come across to have community spirit and give all their goodies to you.

Let me introduce you to CZ 512 .22LR /.22 Magnum semi-auto retails at £425 at my local gun store here. Yes, slightly stronger than .22 but hey who knows ... I thought UK don't sell guns but this one is on my list of guns I want ... I want one ... 😆

Don't forget the pineapple rings. People are supposed to taste like pigs and everyone loves ham and pineapple. It pays to be prepared. Ooh and honey too. Mmmm honeyed human spare ribs.

Remember the guns are not for shooting animals but rather for self defense ... 😆

funkmasterp - Member
Don't forget the pineapple rings. People are supposed to taste like pigs and everyone loves ham and pineapple. It pays to be prepared. Ooh and honey too. Mmmm honeyed human spare ribs.

Realistically, the UK is too population dense to have a realistic chance of survival.
Once the sh*t hits the fan, you need remoteness with the ability to create power, heat and fresh water, hunt and gather/produce and the ability to protect yourself from those wanting what YOU have.
The US preppers are extreme, but in all honesty, 100% equipped and mentally ready to protect what they have.

If you cant do all this.. don't bother 😉
However a grab bag with a weeks worth of water and food and other simple supplies in the event of natural disaster is a minimum even to survive in your home while the appropriate response action is put into place.

You can make the powder and shot yourself

Because everyone has a ready supply of sulphur, charcoal and potassium nitrate... A pestle & mortar works OK but if you're going to be making lots of it you'll need a ball mill.

Not to mention lead and the means for melting it, forming consistent lead balls and then having the knowledge and means to load a powder gun.

It'd be a lot easier to just go round shooting people and nicking their ammo.

Quick thoughts;

Let's be honest, you've given this some thought...

grab bag

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Well if you haven't got the stuff to make it crazy-legs just say 😉

It was an American mag and I guess they they probably learn that stuff in kindergarten.

dirksdiggler - Member
Realistically, the UK is too population dense to have a realistic chance of survival.

The US preppers are extreme, but in all honesty, 100% equipped and mentally ready to protect what they have.

[s]embracing[/s]Ride the lightning

Ftfy

So long as noone plays that sodding REM song.

So depends on the apocalypse, nukes and anywhere in the U.K. is toast. REALLY HOT toast. My mates went on a bunker tour skiving off work one day. They said it was the most horrific depressing day they'd had. Working near Gatwick I suspect my last thoughts apart from Mrs M and the pets would be I hope some sub captain has successfully got his Tridents off to ruin the instigators day.

Zombie apocalypse and I reckon I've a chance, I know a few hidey holes that are really secure/remote in Sussex, though knowing my luck I'll be working in London the day it occurs.

Plague survivor, plenty of food (tinned). I'd probably raid the local police station for guns and then being rampantly paranoid kill every survivor I see on sight. I suspect I'd go from alcohol poisoning or fast car/tree interface.

AI attack/nano plague/alien invasion, probably dead in the first few days.
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Moving to Montana soon, gonna be a dental floss tycoon.