But a Polo is the mint with a hole..
What if it was as long as a straw?
You'd probably only get one in each pack.
One's a hollow cylinder and the other is a silly Hollander.
Sorry.
I think we need to define hole.
chambers offers multiple choices some of which pierce and others that are closed.
A hollow place
A cavity
An aperture
A gap
A breach
A pit
Topogically, a mug is the same as a donut...
Does your mug leak a lot? (Or only hold a small amount of coffee in an annoyingly off centre location?)
Your wife is right, you are wrong. Doesn't matter what the question was. Accept that and move on.
I am thinking of the straw as a really long washer where the internal diameter is really close to the external, so if it is a washer it has one hole.
This debate drove people nuts last year
People actually gave a shit (and not out of their mouths) ?
This debate drove peopdle nuts last year
People actually gave a shit (and not out of their mouths)
Didn't the post say "The Sun"? Not exactly where you'd look for a considered argument and sense of proportion is it?
Holes don't have to go through anything. If I was planting a tree I would dig a hole, that had a bottom and sides. Therefore the straw has two holes that just happen to meet in the middle.
Not exactly where you’d look for a considered argument and sense of proportion is it?
"This argument is driving people nuts! You'll never guess what it's about!"
“This argument is driving people nuts! You’ll never guess what it’s about!”
What!? What!? Tell me!
Three.
Holes don’t have to go through anything.
Correct.
If I was planting a tree I would dig a hole, that had a bottom and sides.
Correct.
Therefore the straw has two holes that just happen to meet in the middle.
Incorrect, you have jumped a step in your logic.
You poke a hole through a piece of paper, you don't poke opposing holes.
A through hole is one hole.
A glory hole is one hole.
There's a hole in my bucket.
All singular.
One’s a hollow cylinder and the other is a silly Hollander.
Bravo. And I raise you:
How do you titilate an ocelot?
Oscillate it’s tits a lot...
IGMC
Therefore the straw has two holes that just happen to meet in the middle.
Bless and you were doing so well.
This shit is pretty much my job...I’m patent attorney. We actually end up arguing this type of thing in court. Is a bore different from a hole? Is a pipe different from a tube? Should you have called your pipe a conduit? It’s a good job I quite like arguing about this type of thing!
This shit is pretty much my job…I’m patent attorney. We actually end up arguing this type of thing in court. Is a bore different from a hole? Is a pipe different from a tube? Should you have called your pipe a conduit? It’s a good job I quite like arguing about this type of thing!
This shit is pretty much my job…I’m patent attorney.
Hmmm...has anyone tried to patent an oblong bob?
I admit it doesn’t sound all that interesting when I put it like that! 😴
Usually it’s a bit higher tech than a straw...medical devices, gene therapy, that sort of thing. But hey, it pays for bikes.
There’s a hole in my bucket.
Hey drac, tell us, what is a bucket without a hole called?
Topologically a straw has one hole.
Given that the atomic structure is 99.9999999999996% empty space, then i'd say there are BILLIONS of holes in a drinking straw........
Hey drac, tell us, what is a bucket without a hole called
Functional. A bucket shouldn't have a hole in it. Essentially its a sheet (of leather historically) with the edges gathered up.
(Edit there may be stitching holes but i don't think that's really what you meant.)
Hey drac, tell us, what is a bucket without a hole called?
Useless.
Two openings, one aperture, no holes.
totally disagree to the mug/doughnut statement though
Topologically a straw is the same as a washer, doughnut or Polo mint. It's just a surface with a single hole in it. As is a mug, but the hole is the handle, not the bit you put the tea in.
Two openings, one aperture, no holes.
No holes but has an aperture? 🤦🏼♂️
If a tube has no holes in it then what is a rod with a hole drilled all the way through it?
If a tube has no holes in it then what is a rod with a hole drilled all the way through it?
That would be a tube.
If you took a sheet of steel and rolled it to produce a tube, it's still a tube but it doesn't have a hole in it. It's a question of semantics, perception and fabrication. Is your tube a 3 dimensional solid with a hole formed through the middle or is it essentially a 2d planar object? Idealy a drinking straw has walls of 0 thickness, so differs from your rod which has a thickness and specifically existed as an ideally 3d object.
Take a sheet of paper with no holes in it, its got 6 sides in practice but idealy only 2 and most people would agree two except soley to be argumentative.
Roll the ends together to create a tube, its still got two* sides and no holes but its a tube, un roll it, no holes. Push down in the middle its still got no holes and is still a planar object.
Push a pencil through the sheet to create a hole - a breach in the otherwise continuous plane within its defined bounds. Its now a tube to all intents and purposes just of 0* depth. Roll it up, end to end and is still a 2d object with a single hole.
* yes in the real world it has thickness but given the whole hole question is a thought exercise hoplefully even stw can concieve that paper "is" a 2d object.
Two openings, one aperture, no holes.
"Opening", "aperture" and "hole" are synonyms. I'd provide a link if the forum software wasn't quite so spectacularly useless.
A cylinder is a 3D shape primary school kids know that. A tube is cylinder with a hole all the way through, even paper ones.
Even primary school kids know that.
We teach lots of things to kids that are wrong because they're fundamentally easier to grasp and correct enough.
A cylinder is a 3D shape... A tube is cylinder with a hole all the way through.
Some yes, not all.
even paper ones
Feel free to make a paper cylinder from a single sheet of paper without changing the fundamental fact it's a single sheet. Before you do though, draw a triangle on it. Roll it up. Is it still a triangle? After all a triangle is a 2d shape, even primary school kids know that.
A 2D shape needs to be able to lay flat on a level surface a tube doesn't. The material on object is made from does not define the shape.
So a straw has the same number of holes as a cup. And yet liquid only escapes from one end of a cup.
Did you know there's an Urban Dictionary entry for a leaky straw? I wouldn't have know that if this thread hadn't existed.
Question - Has a straw got 2 ends?
So a straw has the same number of holes as a cup. And yet liquid only escapes from one end of a cup.
The hole in the cup stops before going all the way through.
A paper cup has no holes apparently.
A tube is cylinder with a hole all the way through, even paper ones.
Even square tubes?
The material on object is made from does not define the shape.
Very true, but a sheet of paper is easy to work with, and can conceivably be used as a plane rather than a 3d object. So yes paper or jelly all the same in practice but as a thought exercise ones easier.
A 2D shape needs to be able to lay flat on a level surface
No, it needs to have no volume.
If a plane of jelly is planar, if i roll it into a tube, its still planar, viewed from its end you'd not see it as it has no physical presence in the 3rd dimension. Its flat.
Even square tubes?
That would be a square.
If a plane of jelly is planar, if i roll it into a tube, its still planar, viewed from its end you’d not see it as it has no physical presence in the 3rd dimension. Its flat.
You're digging a big hole for yourself.
That would be a square.
Not a cuboid?
Doh!
The hole in the cup stops before going all the way through.
If that was the body work of your car you'd call it a dent not a hole...
A paper cup has no holes apparently.
Nothing to with it being paper per se. One of the cones hasn't got a hole in it in conceptual terms its a two planes, inside and outside. One with a flat bottom is 3d as it has 4 planar surfaces. It consists of 2 2d* shapes (or more in most cases) added together.
Edit - if I'm genuinely wrong...
A 2D shape needs to be able to lay flat on a level surface
What is the triangle i suggested you draw on a sheet then roll up once you've rolled it? I completely accept that in orded to actually exist in a way we can perceive as a physical object a straw has to have wall thickness so isn't a theoretical planar construct but as i say it's a thought exercise.
A real straw has a single hole if that's the word you want to use.
If that was the body work of your car you’d call it a dent not a hole…
I've never managed to get much tea in a dent.
I’ve never managed to get much tea in a dent.
You get sod all in a mug either in my office.
Thirty spokes are joined together in a wheel,
but it is the center hole
that allows the wheel to function.
We mold clay into a pot,
but it is the emptiness inside
that makes the vessel useful.
We fashion wood for a house,
but it is the emptiness inside
that makes it livable.
We work with the substantial,
but the emptiness is what we use.
A real straw has a single hole if that’s the word you want to use.
Fake straws! Are you trump.
