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[Closed] How many holes are there in a drinking straw?

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A tube is cylinder with a hole all the way through, even paper ones.

Even square tubes?


 
Posted : 04/10/2018 11:19 am
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The material on object is made from does not define the shape.

Very true, but a sheet of paper is easy to work with, and can conceivably be used as a plane rather than a 3d object. So yes paper or jelly all the same in practice but as a thought exercise ones easier.

A 2D shape needs to be able to lay flat on a level surface

No, it needs to have no volume.

If a plane of jelly is planar, if i roll it into a tube, its still planar, viewed from its end you'd not see it as it has no physical presence in the 3rd dimension. Its flat.


 
Posted : 04/10/2018 11:43 am
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Even square tubes?

That would be a square.

If a plane of jelly is planar, if i roll it into a tube, its still planar, viewed from its end you’d not see it as it has no physical presence in the 3rd dimension. Its flat.

You're digging a big hole for yourself.


 
Posted : 04/10/2018 11:47 am
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That would be a square.

Not a cuboid?


 
Posted : 04/10/2018 11:58 am
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Doh!


 
Posted : 04/10/2018 12:00 pm
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The hole in the cup stops before going all the way through.

If that was the body work of your car you'd call it a dent not a hole...

A paper cup has no holes apparently.

Nothing to with it being paper per se.  One of the cones hasn't got a hole in it in conceptual terms its a two planes, inside and outside. One with a flat bottom is 3d as it has 4 planar surfaces. It consists of 2 2d* shapes (or more in most cases) added together.

Edit - if I'm genuinely wrong...

A 2D shape needs to be able to lay flat on a level surface

What is the triangle i suggested you draw on a sheet then roll up once you've rolled it? I completely accept that in orded to actually exist in a way we can perceive as a physical object a straw has to have wall thickness so isn't a theoretical planar construct but as i say it's a thought exercise.

A real straw has a single hole if that's the word you want to use.


 
Posted : 04/10/2018 12:00 pm
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If that was the body work of your car you’d call it a dent not a hole…

I've never managed to get much tea in a dent.


 
Posted : 04/10/2018 12:10 pm
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I’ve never managed to get much tea in a dent.

You get sod all in a mug either in my office.


 
Posted : 04/10/2018 12:13 pm
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Thirty spokes are joined together in a wheel,
but it is the center hole
that allows the wheel to function.

We mold clay into a pot,
but it is the emptiness inside
that makes the vessel useful.

We fashion wood for a house,
but it is the emptiness inside
that makes it livable.

We work with the substantial,
but the emptiness is what we use.


 
Posted : 04/10/2018 12:24 pm
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A real straw has a single hole if that’s the word you want to use.

Fake straws! Are you trump.


 
Posted : 04/10/2018 12:24 pm
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Just a toady

Edit oh so's he


 
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