Leave coke and pizza next to some rocks, return the next day and see which rocks have no coke/pizza left?
(I am a Developer/was anyway by the way).
Hmmm pizza.
coke and pizza
you're attracting the wrong crowd - the experienced devs around here want steak and real ale 🙂
you're attracting the wrong crowd - the experienced devs around here want steak and real ale
Hmm, our company feeds ours on free Pizza, but they all are pretty young....
In any terms this:somebody else ... quoting double what we think the job should cost
Would have alarm bells ringing, and I'd be interested in how you came to your estimate based on little or no programming experience. Would you quote for the extension on your house too and tell a builder how much the job should be?
Maybe read the thread?
[i]the experienced devs around here want steak and real ale [/i]
And all the remaining Cobol developers have to be offered soft food they can eat with their teeth out...
And all the remaining Cobol developers have to be offered soft food they can eat with their teeth out...
Brilliant 😀
Maybe read the thread?
So you got a quote from someone who was using your site to learn new skills with 2 years ago and now feel it should be applicable to an experienced ASP.Net developer?
The likelihood is he underquoted the job because he knew he couldn't charge you the full going rate based on his experience level. So for him he would still get paid quite well, and also have a chance of learning a new framework/language at the same time.
I would suggest approaching a reputable software house and ask them to provide you with a functional specification (it'll cost you to have this produced). This may mean several meetings to flesh out what you have at the moment, and what you want your bespoke software to actually do. But you'll end up with a document you can then get sensible, more accurate quotes on.
There's nothing worse that trying to quote on a job that's all verbal/email as normally things get forgotten or overlooked. Feature creep then sets in and the job will end up costing more than the original quote.
So you got a quote from someone who was using your site to learn new skills with 2 years ago and now feel it should be applicable to an experienced ASP.Net developer?
We got a quote from developers/software peeps, the actual developer was subcontracted to do the job inc consultation with us, they quoted we accepted. I don't actually care if it's ASP.net really any front end would do, the simpler (cheaper?) the better
When you say 'front-end', will that be customer facing, internal usage - or just an interface to manage the SQL database?
If it's the latter, maybe something like this could suit your needs?
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I may be interested in taking a look at this but it would have to be on a part-time basis as it's no longer my main job. My rates would be reasonable (certainly a lot less than £500 a day).
I would also need a lot more information and to draw up a specification before I start any programming. PM me if you are interested.
Common Business Orientated Language - it has a certain ring to it !
(i've read the thread)
It's still a bit odd the OP seems to know how much it should cost despite not knowing where to find a programmer, and not knowing how to do it themselves.
They have two quotes, but one is for a half arsed incomplete job by someone inexperienced (might not be what was quoted, but it's what you got) the other is unknown.
Do you pay lunch expenses?
geoffj - MemberDo you pay lunch expenses?
Do Pret a Manger do Pizza?
😀
Where are you based Bimbler?
[i]How did you arrive at your guesstimate for the price? [/i]
Based on my old user base, it was whatever they'd decided their budget was (or had left).
Bimbler - have you got a fairly accurate description of the job? If you want to send it through, I'm happy to give you a very ballpark estimate in return, rather than just moaning how much devs should/shouldn't get paid.
I'm too full of work right now to do it anyway, this year, so it will purely be for interests sake.
Rachel
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Looks like you're after more than I could offer in my spare time.. shame though.. I like a challenge 🙂
If it's simple then maybe I can help.
Dropped you an email.
The posts ^^ are probably what you need to be doing ie getting a proper evaluation of the solution you are aiming for. That is the most critical part of this. Yes, you could get a quick and cheap job done that involves custom coding and development work. But what about ongoing support? What about future changes that you suddenly decide may be desirable? Could the solution be provided through off the shelf software that may end up costing you a lot less in the long run? To a degree, the language doesn't really matter that much provided you have the solution spec, workflow, outputs etc. Bottom line is that a good quality, custom developed solution is not cheap.
If you would like me to take a look at it I'd be happy to do so. It appears to be exactly what I do for a living. You can email me on jaburrow at btinternet dot com and you can see what I do on LinkedIn under my profile - Julian Aburrow. You can also see my recommendations there.
I'm available from 18th November.
I'll give you an honest appraisal of whether I can do what you need, how long I think it's going to take and how much it'll cost (and it won't be anything like as much as £500 per day).
Mrs RIckmeister ("orangina" on here)also does this, is a three tier architecture specialist and is a senior developer in a good software development company... if you want an industry quote.

