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Okay so this musket (I presume that's the correct term) has been kicking around the family for quite a while.

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Rather than hiding it behind a wardrobe for all eternity I'm considering putting it above the mantle in some way, but to do that I would need to replace the pin that holds the barrel to the stock and fit a ramrod so it looks more complete.

There are no external marks or writing anywhere on the gun. If anyone knows about these things any info would be greatly appreciated.


 
Posted : 22/02/2017 11:10 am
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If there really are "no markings anywhere" on the gun then it's likely not to have been proofed so no gunsmith will work on it (or shouldn't) - this may be different if it really is a musket and not an early shotgun.

We had to scrap the three shotguns we had on the farm because of this.


 
Posted : 22/02/2017 11:13 am
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Well there's no way to add insert cartridge and it used to have a ramrod attached (it got broken then lost) so I think it's a musket. I could be wrong though.


 
Posted : 22/02/2017 11:17 am
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Any help?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_Bess


 
Posted : 22/02/2017 11:19 am
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Yonks ago I saw a mention of this place...

http://www.gunproof.com/Proofing/proofing.html

... but I haven't read the details.


 
Posted : 22/02/2017 11:19 am
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@slowoldgit - slightly oddly I'm reading that very page!


 
Posted : 22/02/2017 11:22 am
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Any help?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_Bess

I don't think it's a brown bess because it's percusssion cap as opposed to flintlock.

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Yonks ago I saw a mention of this place...

http://www.gunproof.com/Proofing/proofing.html

... but I haven't read the details.

Thanks slowoldgit, I'll take a read.


 
Posted : 22/02/2017 11:24 am
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It looks like it's been painted brown with that fence treatment. I bet it would look smashing cleaned up and perhaps with the steel parts lightly lacquered to keep them bright.


 
Posted : 22/02/2017 12:47 pm
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I think that's just from 100ish years of neglect and storage. I think a bit of subtle cleaning will be in order but I don't want to go ott on it. I don't want to make it too much of a focal point.


 
Posted : 22/02/2017 1:30 pm
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I had a 'live pigeon' gun that looked similar. Black powder 10 bore.


 
Posted : 22/02/2017 1:44 pm
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I don't think it's a brown bess because it's percusssion cap as opposed to flintlock

Lots were converted to percussion cap according to wiki.


 
Posted : 22/02/2017 1:59 pm
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Is the inside of the barrel smooth, rifled or hexagonal?


 
Posted : 22/02/2017 2:00 pm
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I think Big Chris might be looking for you...

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looks a bit like a crimean period enfield pattern 1842 but I don't think it is


 
Posted : 22/02/2017 2:28 pm
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I've got an 1860 Dixon with similar lines, but with a bit of engraving etc. It's got a rifled barrel and has been in the family for god knows how long. Unfortunately the ball moulds have got lost.


 
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Gunny

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Posted : 22/02/2017 2:50 pm
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An early nineteenth century percussion cap muzzle load rifle by Joseph Manton


 
Posted : 22/02/2017 2:51 pm
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Is the inside of the barrel smooth, rifled or hexagonal?

It's smooth. It does look somewhat similar to the pic Klunk has posted but it's only pinned once.


 
Posted : 22/02/2017 3:57 pm