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Totally agree SBZ, your original statement that the OP was probably a better driver for realising his own limitations is also spot on.
The single most important factor in being a good driver is that realisation that you need to take responsibility for your actions
Provided you have the basic skills to go with it. If you don't have the basic skills then no amount of "correct attitude" is going to help.
Or are you suggesting that somebody who's never driven before but has the right attitude is the best driver in the world?
The single most important factor in being a good driver is that realisation that you need to take responsibility for your actionsProvided you have the basic skills to go with it. If you don't have the basic skills then no amount of "correct attitude" is going to help.
Or are you suggesting that somebody who's never driven before but has the right attitude is the best driver in the world?
To be a [i]good[/i] driver, first you need to be a driver. And to be a driver you need to have a license.
What he said sounds fair enough to me. 🙄
I think a 10yr retest would be good, I doubt most people on here could go into a driving test and pass without at least a couple of refresher lessons to fix the bad habits you slip into within weeks of passing.
To Poppa, you'd probably be best looking for an instructor that does pass plus, this includes motorway driving and I believe driving after dark. Its still designed for those with little experience, I did mine with the same examiner that I passed with, but was given a lot more information on just driving safely rather than how to drive to pass your test compared to normal lessons. Also a normal instructor who doesn't do pass plus will never teach on motorways.
Let's not split hairs.
He meant that the op was POTENTIALLY the best driver.
Thanks for the replies, some useful stuff there. Glad to have promoted a healthy discourse on the subject 🙂
I love how defensive people get at even the merest hint that their driving may not be perfect. Reminds me of many days at work when I had to let people into the secret that their status as a driving god was a figment of their imagination and they were indeed dangerous.
Fortunately driving is incredibly easy for anybody with half a brain, so he will probably find it very easy to learn.
either most people on the roads are halfwits or this is just not true.
only an ignorant person believes they have nothing to learn.
I'd go with most people on the roads being halfwits to be honest. That's maybe being generous though.
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Or since you have a licence already, you could try the Institute of Advanced Motoring. Instruction is free and you will eventually achieve quite a high standard of driving. That you are back at novice level presently, should not be a problem.
Agree entirely with SBZ, being a good driver is 90% attitude, 10% skill.
The IAM would be pleased to have you. Cost is £139 (incl Book) and membership. As many hours free advice on the road as you need to help build your confidence and improve your driving. No obligation to take the test at the end if you don't want to. (Although passing will qualify you for preferential insurance terms).
SBZ sanctimonious drivel.
Muddy_bum - clean your arse will you.
Its not hard folks, my Granda is an excellent driver and he can hardly walk without his rollater.
being a good driver is 90% attitude, 10% skill.
So a driver with a 10% worse attitude is better than one with half the skill level? Rubbish. Observing properly is a skill. Anticipating is a skill. Being able to select an appropriate speed is a skill. Being able to handle a car under emergency braking is a skill. All directly related to driving well and safely - skill isn't just about being able to drive fast around corners.
Meanwhile attitude isn't just about knowing your limitations. Driving within your ability. Not getting angry at other drivers. Not being aggressive. None of which are related to knowing that you need training - I mean some of those people don't actually desperately need any training at all to be good, safe drivers. Being self-aware does actually also allow you to be correct when you think you're doing things right. Hence why Trolling's first post is BS.
Cant let the driving instructor be correct about driving now can we. Trouble with driving is that everyone thinks they're an expert after a tiny wee bit of basic training.
So can I check I've got this right, you're an expert on every aspect of driving, Trolling? No point anybody else even contributing to a thread about driving - when you've said your piece the thread is over?
Correct.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
aracer - Memberbeing a good driver is 90% attitude, 10% skill.
So a driver with a 10% worse attitude is better than one with half the skill level? Rubbish. Observing properly is a skill. Anticipating is a skill. Being able to select an appropriate speed is a skill. Being able to handle a car under emergency braking is a skill. All directly related to driving well and safely - skill isn't just about being able to drive fast around corners.
Meanwhile attitude isn't just about knowing your limitations. Driving within your ability. Not getting angry at other drivers. Not being aggressive. None of which are related to knowing that you need training - I mean some of those people don't actually desperately need any training at all to be good, safe drivers. Being self-aware does actually also allow you to be correct when you think you're doing things right. Hence why Trolling's first post is BS.
Attitude = State of mind. All those things you've listed (obs, anticipation, speed etc) as 'skills' start with state of mind (attitude)
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