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[Closed] Have we done the Kickstarter QR locks yet?

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What a completely pointless idea, if you put locks on your quick release, then it is no longer a quick release. There are plenty of non quick release skewers that make much more sense.


 
Posted : 01/10/2014 9:24 am
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ISTR this being done years ago too.


 
Posted : 01/10/2014 9:27 am
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You can already buy allen key QRs etc, so nothing really new here.


 
Posted : 01/10/2014 9:32 am
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There's a wide range of security skewers out there that are better IMO but I can sort of see the point that you can lock it for commuting and leave it off for recreational rides. Kind of makes sense if you have only one bike*. Having dissed the brake I'm going say 'I'm out' but still wish him good luck.

* This concept won't make sense to most people here


 
Posted : 01/10/2014 9:35 am
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Allen key for a bit of security, security bolts for more security. I guess if you lock your good bike up occasionally and still want to run QRs for MTBing I guess this is an option, limited audience tho imo


 
Posted : 01/10/2014 9:36 am
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Failing to see the point, surely it's far simpler to change the skewer for a secure one.

(And is wheel theft a huge issue?)


 
Posted : 01/10/2014 10:33 am
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I've used the allen key ones before if I want something semi-secure that can be removed reasonably quickly.


 
Posted : 01/10/2014 10:48 am
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[i]if you put locks on your quick release, then it is no longer a quick release. [/i]

It's not a quick release when it's LOCKED UP. You just take them off when you ride, making it ta-da! a quick release again.

I can see the point - allen keys aren't secure keys.

Not something I need myself, but a good idea.


 
Posted : 01/10/2014 11:00 am
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Looks heavy and doesn't look like it will work with shimano internal cam omes


 
Posted : 01/10/2014 11:00 am
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Does this finally resolve the QR coming undone under braking forces and causing immediate death by firey ball of death fire, that has been keeping me awake ever since I read about it sometime last century?


 
Posted : 01/10/2014 11:10 am
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Does this finally resolve the QR coming undone under braking forces and causing immediate death by firey ball of death fire, that has been keeping me awake ever since I read about it sometime last century?
That was solved with shimano quick releases. Unfortunately this doesn't work with shimano, though.


 
Posted : 01/10/2014 11:11 am
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Unfortunately this doesn't work with shimano, though

Isn't that a substantial design flaw? Making it incompatible with the world's biggest component manufacturer's kit, must limit your potential market.

I'm oot.


 
Posted : 01/10/2014 11:14 am
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Not a bad idea, shame it doesn't work internal cam skewers tho.


 
Posted : 01/10/2014 1:09 pm
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I think you're looking for something that isn't there... it's just an extra security device for commuters who leave their bikes in public places.
If you're worried about getting your wheels nicked, couple of these and a pair of £3 skewers - worry over, the scum will move onto someone elses bike.
*shrugs*


 
Posted : 01/10/2014 1:17 pm
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Also what about a set of mole grips on the nut side of the QR? With a lot of bikes having aluminium drop outs it's probably not that hard to really undo a QR with a set of decent grips.

Okay these are to stop quick theft but so doest a normal bolt up skewer or you could try the Pitlock ones.


 
Posted : 01/10/2014 1:38 pm
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Dunno if Marin still do those 5-sided "hex" key skewers.


 
Posted : 01/10/2014 1:42 pm
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Dunno if Marin still do those 5-sided "hex" key skewers.

doesn't really matter if they're 6 sided, 5 sided or any other number of sides or the ones with the little security button in the middle - you can undo any of them with a pair of pliers when you lose the key, and I guess that would be same issue with this lock - it would only deter the most casual of theft attempts - someone wanting to take the wheel and having nothing other than their bare hands to take it with.


 
Posted : 01/10/2014 3:31 pm
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Reckon it would take about 30seconds of enthusiastic sawing with a hacksaw to get through the alloy bit then you could open the quick release as normal.

I'd rather fit some Halo ones that require a alley key to undo which are probably as secure as these to a determined thief.


 
Posted : 01/10/2014 6:24 pm
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bugger if you have a puncture and have lost/forgotten the key...

nice idea, mind. thankfully i don't live in london...


 
Posted : 01/10/2014 6:57 pm
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I think it's a brilliant idea! But like everyone said, shame it doesn't work with shimano skewers..


 
Posted : 01/10/2014 7:13 pm
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20mm through-axles, problem eradicated. 😉


 
Posted : 01/10/2014 10:42 pm
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Reckon it would take about 30seconds of enthusiastic sawing with a hacksaw

Or a couple of seconds with a decent bolt cropper.


 
Posted : 01/10/2014 10:58 pm
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[b]** Minor Resurrection ** [/b]

Just been looking at these because they cropped up on road.cc
He's pretty close to making his Kickstarter target with 9 days to go.

Personally I think they look like a pretty good idea and I could see them selling well enough.

To answer a few of the nay-sayers above:

if you put locks on your quick release, then it is no longer a quick release

You don't [i]have[/i] to ride about with them on. You can just stick them on when you stop.

I've used the allen key ones before if I want something semi-secure that can be removed reasonably quickly.

I would have thought that anyone in the business of nicking components off bikes is pretty likely to be carrying a set of allen keys.

There's a wide range of security skewers out there that are better IMO

Not sure what his retail price is, but you get two locks for a £19 pledge on Kickstarter.

Whereas pitlock security skewers are £36 for a pair.

Looks heavy

51 grams.

what about a set of mole grips on the nut side of the QR? With a lot of bikes having aluminium drop outs it's probably not that hard to really undo a QR with a set of decent grips.

He (badly) demonstrates that with a video. See the section "Nut removal attempt 1 (the other side)" on Kickstarter.

Not 100% convincing but seems to put up enough of a fight to put off a thief at least.


 
Posted : 15/10/2014 10:42 am
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(And is wheel theft a huge issue?)

I know at least half a dozen people who've had their front wheel nicked at some point and most town centres are littered with bikes with the front wheel missing. I'd say it's enough of an issue to be worth considering


 
Posted : 15/10/2014 10:53 am
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[i]You don't have to ride about with them on. You can just stick them on when you stop.[/i]

I already said that.

[i]I would have thought that anyone in the business of nicking components off bikes is pretty likely to be carrying a set of allen keys.[/i]

And that.

🙂


 
Posted : 15/10/2014 10:59 am
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I was backing you up DezB 😛


 
Posted : 15/10/2014 11:02 am
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It's not a quick release when it's LOCKED UP. You just take them off when you ride, making it ta-da! a quick release again.

But a bit confusing that the guy describes it as "fit and forget"...


 
Posted : 15/10/2014 11:32 am
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But a bit confusing that the guy describes it as "fit and forget"...

I'd imagine that many consumers would, especially on commuter bikes etc.

But if you really need [i]quick[/i]-release (i.e. in a race situation where you're not leaving your bike and the few extra seconds required to get a key from your pocket could be critical) then obviously you wouldn't ride with them on.

Or more realistically if you're just fussy about the look of your bike (i.e. probably most of us) then you'd just attach them along with your other locks when you got to the destination.


 
Posted : 15/10/2014 11:42 am
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[i]I was backing you up DezB[/i]

Makes a nice change 🙂


 
Posted : 15/10/2014 11:43 am