Talk about Karma…
If the Romanian police have a sense of irony they will arrange for him to be interrogated by a female officer. Ideally in uniform to emphasise their role.
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What @duckman said. My daughter has had some really unpleasant experiences as a result of one of those teenage acolytes. So hard for a young girl to have to argue against such misogyny being given validation by someone like that. I can’t help but worry why sort of views and behaviours boys looking up to him now might have as they get older.
And this is why he's such a dangerous little individual. Like AA, I find he is increasingly mentioned by the lads at school in a positive way, and it's very difficult to debate the issues he creates in an effective way (FWIW I'm pretty blunt with students about what my view of him and his ideas is, and thankfully have the backup of our whole-school response to him being discussed by students).
His views are not the issue, repugnant as they are. It's the fact they are dressed up in the trappings of what a lot of teenage boys see as an aspirational lifestyle (cars, clothes, glamorous locations, etc.). The 'marketing' is sadly quite clever and plays on the insecurities of being a 13-16 year old boy all too well in the pursuit of clicks and monetising his social media accounts.
This Taint guy has some sort of pyramid marketing grift aimed at 13 year old boys and incels. He's been raided again.
That is so awesome. Sometimes the world just delivers...
And this is why he’s such a dangerous little individual. Like AA, I find he is increasingly mentioned by the lads at school in a positive way, and it’s very difficult to debate the issues he creates in an effective way (FWIW I’m pretty blunt with students about what my view of him and his ideas is, and thankfully have the backup of our whole-school response to him being discussed by students).
Plenty of social media promoting "gangster cool" or with people showing show off their wealth surrounding by women. This "gangster cool" seems to originate from the US gangster culture and many people like them especially young people. There must be some strong desire for people to be rich quick with power to do as they wish.
What you can do is ask your students where did he get his money from? Even as a competitive sportsman (this bloke) surely his money could finish spending the way he is. He could have invested in a business that requires some work but he opted for the quick income.
You can also ask your students if they are rich what will they do with their money. i.e. will they invest in moral or immoral business (law breaking), even when they can get away with the latter.
Absolutely chewkw.
Luckily, the overriding school culture we try to promote is one of inclusivity and mutual respect so we have a set of shared values that the students understand (even if they sometimes struggle to uphold them) to build the conversations on. It's pretty clear that what Tate preaches runs counter to our desired school values so it;s easy to throw them into quite an unflattering contrast.
interesting (and worrying) though, that those lads that do look up to him the most are VERY difficult to shift in their thinking. They repeat his views as fact and will not really listen to reasonable counter arguments - there's a real 'flat earther' feel to their investment in his worldview.
Yep. He’s an Influencer.
Did everyone bring their own pencils for conclusion-drawing or do you need to borrow one?
Oooo, that burns!
I’m vaguely aware of Andrew ****, because the repulsive parasite gets referenced occasionally in Flipboard news items, in particular with his trying to flame Thunberg. What gets me about Brewer wading in on ****’s side is that most women will just look at someone like him, roll their eyes and make a comment about all those cars being a penis substitute.
I had seen some headlines about Romanian police being involved with actions against people trafficking and slavery, I hadn’t seen that he’d been arrested. I would very much like to see just how Brewer is going to square her support for someone involved in such an abhorrent trade.
That is so awesome. Sometimes the world just delivers…
Tru dat. I was amused by the original Greta comeback but the fallout is super tasty
... what Tate preaches ...
While watching parliamentary debate of another country on youtube (looks like circus with politicians shouting at each others), I noticed there is a TikTok section on youtube where a lot of short video clips of people promoting themselves. These short clips seem to "get to the point" but all are just skin deep. Problem with people watching them consider them as instant fix without understanding the activities behind them. Not all are bad but some just need to be investigated further. I think this bloke has started presenting his "wisdom" of the way he "made it", but I try to think of what exactly he is trying to promote i.e. his strip joint or his MLM or both by using his profile to make himself as the "cult" character.
Oooo, that burns!
(For the avoidance of doubt, that was intended as a gag rather than a dig at anyone here. "You" should have been "anyone".)
I was aware of him from this:
I do like hearing about grifting sex traffickers 2ñd hand...
https://twitter.com/JuliaHB1/status/1608192807805534209
Waitrose Katie Hopkins has dug her way out of a few holes/tweets, I can't see any coming back from this one
I think Greta's social media just won the Internet.
So, we've established that being an influencer isn't his only source of wealth. Whether his (hopefully very public) downfall will make his teenage fans rethink
Wow, JHB has got herself in trouble there. Obviously the news has got other priorities, but I'd love a proper exposure of this Tait character and his vile apologists to be splashed all over.
Almost spat out my coffee then! 🙂
Ace, and I imagine Romania is one of those places that don’t mess about when they arrest you.
What you can do is ask your students where did he get his money from? Even as a competitive sportsman (this bloke) surely his money could finish spending the way he is. He could have invested in a business that requires some work but he opted for the quick income.
Ahh don’t forget he’s also an educator with his own university that will make you rich.
He could have invested in a business that requires some work but he opted for the quick income.
The pedalling of lies, made up stories and hate has worked very well for most religions over the centuries
Ace, and I imagine Romania is one of those places that don’t mess about when they arrest you.
I'm waiting for a tiktok update from one of their less well-appointed correctional facilities. He's quite the shit-weasel, isn't he?
Bigging up villains isn't new: Butch Cassidy and the Sundance kid, Al Copone, Bonny and Clyde, that Australian with the iron mask, Billy the Kid and more recently Bertrand Cantat, Phil Spector or even Jimmy Saville... . Only one on that list got away with it.
I know about Tate because I'm a teacher and some teenage boys idolise him. English teacher colleagues tell me boys write essays about him as a role model for them.
I'd say misogynistic language/incidents are actually increasing in schools and characters like Tate are a big factor in that
A few month's back a girl told me that she'd like to be a PE teacher but decided against it because she didn't think she could cope with the way boys talk about and treat female PE teachers. It was one of the most depressing things I've come across in my whole 17 year teaching career.
also pals with everyones favourite travel youtuber - bald and bankrupt
Bigging up villains isn’t new: Butch Cassidy and the Sundance kid, Al Copone, Bonny and Clyde, that Australian with the iron mask,
As far as I know, none of them ever said they wouldn't give a dying male friend mouth to mouth resuscitation because it was "gay". Tate has though.
It's right and proper to feel joy at both the (probable) downfall of Tate and the nature of that downfall but let's not forget the desperately sad human trafficking story that will lie behind it.
Less than a day since he got his own thread, and he’s already been brought down - the power and reach of the STW tofu/Greggs eating wokerati is awesome to behold!
I know about Tate because I’m a teacher and some teenage boys idolise him. English teacher colleagues tell me boys write essays about him as a role model for them.
I’d say misogynistic language/incidents are actually increasing in schools and characters like Tate are a big factor in that
I think back to my teenage years when lads mags were at their peak. While they all featured women in various states of undress, none of them, even the most controversial like Loaded, ever mentioned or promoted the downright hatred, threats of violence and bile openly spouted by the likes of Tate and his followers.
Social media seems to continually create obnoxious synthetic characters like this man. With the help of this media and absence of proper moderation these characters manage to make a living from their revolting sociopathic behaviour and extreme ignorance.
Bigging up villains isn’t new: Butch Cassidy and the Sundance kid, Al Copone, Bonny and Clyde, that Australian with the iron mask, Billy the Kid and more recently Bertrand Cantat, Phil Spector or even Jimmy Saville… . Only one on that list got away with it.
There are huge fundamental differences between those examples and Andrew Tate.
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance will have been deeply feared by the vast majority of the population, whatever their ages, during their reign of terror, similarly Bonny and Clyde during their murdering spree. Whatever Hollywood decided to portray decades later for their blockbusters.
Al Capone likewise would have ruled by fear, I haven't seen much evidence that he was a hero to a significant portion of the population, or any Hollywood film to suggest that was the case.
I don't know anything about Bertrand Cantat but Phil Spector received respect due to his undoubted musical talents, it had nothing to do with his crimes which were not publicly known.
Similarly the public recognition which Jimmy Savill received had nothing to do with the fact that he was a prolific paedophile, it was not a publicly known fact.
In contrast with all that Andrew Tate is apparently currently idolised by millions, despite his very publicly aired flawed personality.
I think it might be the most beautiful thing ever if he ends up behind bars because he was shit posting Greta with a Romanian pizza box in the shot.
How do Romanian authorities treat sex traffickers?
Social media seems to continually create obnoxious synthetic characters like this man.
Social media doesn't create these people any more than Grand Theft Auto or Call of Duty sends people on killing sprees. What it does do is give them a voice.
Rewind a decade or two, hate-filled preachers in town squares. Were they created by megaphones?
I think it might be the most beautiful thing ever if he ends up behind bars because he was shit posting Greta with a Romanian pizza box in the shot.
Perhaps worth a read:
https://www.calmdownben.com/p/romanian-cops-did-not-find-andrew
I think the poetic justice thing with the pizza boxes is just online speculation.
No doubt Romanian authorities have more sophisticated methods of knowing whether wanted British nationals have entered the country, and whether to go to a villa to make arrests in connection with organised crime allegations.
I suspect that the making of the video coincided with a recent re-entry into the country which the authorities had been waiting for. If they didn't initially respond immediately it might be because it was to coordinate it with a couple of other arrests.
Lol, very good.😁
Re his adulation by young men/boys.....I don't think putting them straight as to his vileness should be left to women and other groups impacted by him. Somehow, and I'm not sure how, it is the responsibility of hetro men to disavow these gullible kids of valuing his views and him as a person. Or, to be an alternative mentor or influence. It's astonishing that in 2022 that there is a 'mwrket' for people like this, but there it is.
I hope there is some justice.
I think the poetic justice thing with the pizza boxes is just online speculation.
Most probably true. But it would be fantastic for him (Tate) to have a nagging feeling during a potentially long term incarceration that he is there due to his stupidity and baiting of a teenager.
^^ In a way it doesn't really matter if the pizza thing is true, it's now just another way to point out what an idiot he is.
Now, don't get me wrong, he's far worse than just being an idiot but every little helps!
Well it would have been a nice story, facts getting in the way again.
Sounds like the Romanians were monitoring the Tate Bros generally, Inc social meeja.
Glad they're caught, hopefully they'll stay that way for a bit...
Less than a day since he got his own thread, and he’s already been brought down – the power and reach of the STW tofu/Greggs eating wokerati is awesome to behold!
Nah he’ll be reaching out to his cult fans and crowd funding a defence.
Or perhaps some jail themed NFT project.
I’d never heard of him until a few days ago.
I now understand he is a “successful” influencer popular with teenage boys, with many misogynistic and generally unpleasant views.
But I seem to have missed how this gets you in a Romanian prison on sex trafficking charges.
Can someone help fill in the backstory? Because I feel I’m missing something.
Ned Kelly is the 'Australian in a metal mask'
I've been reading about them over Christmas......I didn't get many Andrew Tate style vibes from it.
Didn't really know much about him until recently, and know absolutely nothing of that Julia Hartley-Brewer!
Also to add, I had seen mention something to do with pizza boxes and police raids. I thought someone had done that thing popular a few years back where you place a fake 999 call and get someone’s house raided. Seems I was very off the mark there.
Re his adulation by young men/boys…..I don’t think putting them straight as to his vileness should be left to women and other groups impacted by him. Somehow, and I’m not sure how, it is the responsibility of hetro men to disavow these gullible kids of valuing his views and him as a person. Or, to be an alternative mentor or influence. It’s astonishing that in 2022 that there is a ‘mwrket’ for people like this, but there it is.
I hope there is some justice.
TBH I expect someone will step up to the mark to replace him.
The whole ‘Influencer’ thing’s a bit toxic but I’m not sure how you detoxify it, the people being influenced need to drive that.
Re his adulation by young men/boys…..I don’t think putting them straight as to his vileness should be left to women and other groups impacted by him. Somehow, and I’m not sure how, it is the responsibility of hetro men to disavow these gullible kids of valuing his views and him as a person.
Absolutely this. As the father of an 11yr old boy, it’s my responsibility to help him navigate the next few years and hopefully come out the other end a decent, caring human being. Wish me luck…
