Caught some of this on CNN.. these retired military chaps seem pretty normal.
Any opinions? Are we doomed? Are the little green men looking out for us? Is this a hoax?
crop circles have something to do with this im sure... and they're not little green men, much more advanced than us.
calling them little green man is the kind of attitude that makes us believers seem like crazy people.
Leave it, can-uk; giant bloody lizards in turquoise tracksuits, that's what this is all about. You can't find the answers without disappearing forever
Medium sized grey dudes?
Its all true! They mistook my desktop PC for a nuclear missile, deactivated it and its never worked properly since. Well thats what my teenage daughter told me. Why shouldn't I believe her?
why do i get the feeling you guys aren't taking this seriously?
crop circles have something to do with this im sure... and they're not little green men, much more advanced than us.calling them little green man is the kind of attitude that makes us believers seem like crazy people
I can't help feeling that this is a thinly veiled accusation of intergalactic bigotry! What's the correct term for 'racism' towards extra-terrestrial beings? 😉
"ethnic"
these retired military chaps seem pretty normal
Because of course all those chemicals the military play about with have no effect on service personnel, oh no...
I am being paranoid aren't I?
The idea that certain groups [people/organizations/ethnicities/religions etc] are a threat to western security, has only so much mileage.
Next bogeyman...*spins wheel*...Little Green Men.
There has been an increase in news stories about supposed E.T. activity recently:
- Stephen Hawking stating that any intelligent life traveling the vast distances to our world, would do it for the same reasons we would travel these distances. ie When it came to resources in the new world we went take, not trade. So it would be in our interests to keep a low profile.
- A newly appointed representative post/reception committee being created by some international body for the arrival of alien visitors. I mean, WTF?!?
- Retired military types all of a sudden coming out the woodwork with the "...I saw it I did. Got official documentation to prove it too, which I have decided to share right now. I sound genuine because we military types are all grounded in common sense, not subjected to flights of fancy, now are we? I mean if we had an imagination/inquiring mind, that would be the career right out the window."
These are just news reports from the last week, along with the link from the OP.
Then again it could be a slow news day/week/month...
so your saying they're flying over to steal my resources? its hard enough battling round tescos let alone finally getting back to the car and finding a gang of ethnic visitors from outerspace standing in the way demanding my milk!
B*gger your milk!
I worried about my whiskey/cheese reserves! 😯
I thought that was pretty funny. Panorama tonight a prog about Scientology - they appear to believe in aliens & H bombs. Or did 75,000,000 yrs ago.
Perhaps its all connected & I am not enough of a superior being to be taken into the confidences of those wot know
What's the correct term for 'racism' towards extra-terrestrial beings?
Neilasparophobia is fear of aliens..
I like to think about what we would do if we found a planet inhabited by aliens on a similar technological and intellectual standard to us, but they didn't know about us. Obviously we would spy on them for a while, finding things out.
But would we contact them? Or just attempt to destroy them? I think many people would be too terrified of "what if.." scenarios and want them destroyed. So how would we do it? Nuke every square mile most likely. Maybe that's what will happen to us as well.
I would say if this is all coming out now the powers that be may be thinking about faking an alien attack in order to bring about a one world government. I have been known to be wrong in the past, so don't take this supposition as gospel 😀
Neilasparophobia is fear of aliens..
A is to B as X is to Y
where
A = Xenophobia
B = Neilasparophobia
X = Racism
Y = __________????
Not sure fear of ETs is the same as "whatever the word is for racism" towards ET.
[i] I have been known to be wrong in the past, so don't take this supposition as gospel [/i]
Phew! And there I was just to race out the door on a panic buy 🙂
I've often suspected folk called Neil are from outerspace, but I don't fear them, I for one.... ...blame hitler
with quality documentaries like district 9 available to the public now i really dont understand how people can doubt the existance!
it was aliens who destroyed the twin towers in an effort to push up the price of office space in the city. fact.
Aliens exist, it's obvious to anyone that has spent a few hours researching it.
Everything from the pyramids at giza to texts that are thousands of years old describing them.
The simple fact is the average person in this country and most of the so called developed world, is a TV brain washed imbesile.
They can't even face their little sheltered world let alone the real one! without drugs, drink or delusional indiocy!
The whole universe is empty and it's only us?
So it doesn't matter if humanity is in a perpetual evolutionary state of puberty, when all we go on about is economy or ecology, rather than the development and evolution of our species.
Everyone knows that the universe is waiting for us to sort our sh1t out, that it's standing still and has infact stopped, doesn't pose any threat at all.
Just like we also know that, on no other of the countless billions of worlds with climatic conditions similar to ours, has, is or will any species ever exist. If they did they wouldn't be able to over millions perhaps billions of years create advanced technology.
Then again us brain farting humans have managed to harness nuclear fusion in a mere 2000 years.
Of course aliens exist, the government have been gently building upto the fact of announcing it for years. Documentaries and MOD files being released, more and more government official speaking out.
Some times I wonder about the average person in this country, then I think while the TV brains are distracted, get back to escaping the ratrace.
FREE YOURSELVES! BEFORE ITS TOO LATE!!!
countless billions
*s****s*
I was in the chippy again last night, elvis said this was bollocks as well
But lord Lucan wasn't so sure........
World War two combat Pilots named them 'Foo fighters'.
It could be the stress and strain of repeated missions (lack of sleep/stress under fire etc)..
..but then who knows?
Why is the human race inherently arrogant that we believe we were created by someone who looks like ourselves yet who we have never encountered since?
We are organisms that evolved. Thats all. Organisms in a very big space.
i think aliens exist... but i dont believe that pyramids and such have anything to do with them.
aliens get painted as monsters or human like creatures... evolution on a different planet in different conditions would create completely different life-forms and might not be recognised by us humans and life or inteligent life.
its perfectly reasonable to suggest that there must be life on another planet in the universe, same with suggesting there is probably inteligent life out there somewhere. i just dont believe that its evolved in a way that could fly over and make crop circles or giant tombs.
Who says they have 'form'? They could be beyond our spectrum/field of vision or exist as what we'd describe as 'wraiths'?
Not everyone in the universe will have arms and legs like us will they? Just look at own planet to see the utter diversity of life.
World War two combat Pilots named them 'Foo fighters'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_lightning
Pilots in World War II described an unusual phenomenon for which ball lightning has been suggested as an explanation. The pilots saw small balls of light moving in strange trajectories, which came to be referred to as foo fighters.
"Aliens exist, it's obvious to anyone that has spent a few hours researching it."
Quote of the week !!
This is what you need:
Who says they have 'form'? They could be beyond our spectrum/field of vision or exist as what we'd describe as 'wraiths'?Not everyone in the universe will have arms and legs like us will they? Just look at own planet to see the utter diversity of life.
exactly
cynic-al - Membercountless billions
*s****s*
The universe is infinite and there are an infinite amount of stars, but there are not countless billions of inhabitable worlds. News flash for the guy who lives only to degrade others and who's arguments are not very good!
We sunshine are at the edge of the universe that is to say the dead part, the unstable chaotic part, I would be willing to bet at the centre when the new solar systems are born or formed even created if that is a term that suits you.
They would have a few more planets that are still alive or vibrant and lush as opposed to the hunks of space debree and unstable planetoids that neighbour us!
P.S I am not saying we are alone in the Universe that would be arrogant. There is however no verifiable evidence, much like God really. Perhaps the Scientologists are on to something.
Seems pretty obvious to me that life exists on other planets.
As Carl Sagan once (possibly) said: "The total number of stars in the Universe is larger than all the grains of sand on all the beaches of the planet Earth"
Imagine all those stars: it seems unlikely and immensely arrogant to assume that our Sun is the only one with any life orbiting it.
Now whether any aliens have ever visited us, or ever could, is a matter for debate. But it is telling that, even with our very basic technology, we are already trying to get to them.
I don;t know. Its funny how we try applying our 'logic' as to why we all haven't encountered aliens here on earth.
Do they have to look like [i][b]Mars attacks![/b][/i] or could they be more subtle etc?
In addition, I think its funny how humans think.
We think if you visit a new country/etc you go there to bring your way of life (Christianity) or conqueror their land. So ergo, we think if aliens really existed they would have done what we'd naturally do and come and conqueror/show themselves.
Maybe they are more intelligent and treat us like forna. To study and preserve?
I'm kind of hoping they look like this... I think I might!
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Now Hora, don't get all transcendental on us, people might learn something !
Its a bit fatuous anyway, if Aliens exist in a state that we can't perceive, then to all intents and purposes they don't exist. If you follow me.
Or maybe I just inhaled a whole planet as I breathed.
They would have a few more planets that are still alive or vibrant and lush as opposed to the hunks of space debree and unstable planetoids that neighbour us!
From what I know, the theory actually goes that elements of different densities in the maelstrom of the early universe formed into gravitational rings around the stars that eventually conglomerated into planets. Different elements having different densities tended to gather together which is why we have gas giants with much lower densities at the peripheries of the solar system and much denser planets closer to the gravitational centre of our solar system.
If that is the case then it is pretty inevitable, assuming we have a pretty uniform distribution of elements throughout the universe, that many many many stars have planets similar to Earth in their orbit.
Assuming all of these planets which are suitable for developing life as we know it have similar chemical makeup and a certain percentage of them are of a similar size relative to their primary energy source, it is highly likely that their environments would have formed in the same way and life would have evolved in a similar fashion, either by sheer luck or by some form of trans-spermia.
Contrast this against the Fermi paradox and it looks completely obvious that we are being spied upon by aliens all the time and that they are just waiting till we are sufficiently advanced to make contact. If you don't believe that you must be some sort of idiot.
Asshats.
hora and hels... +1
might have to bust my way through cosmos again on my week off.
Compare and contrast to religion (that a great deal of humans beleive in).
Religion revolves around a novel describing events (fables) and miracles (not seen for over 2,000yrs funnily enough).
Fast forward and we have numerous encounters/sightings of aliens in the last 50yrs.
Why aren't religion believers call crackpots, wacko's and idiots?
completely obvious that we are being spied upon by aliens all the time and that they are just waiting till we are sufficiently advanced to make contact. If you don't believe that you must be some sort of idiot.
Erm... that's non sequitur logic at it's finest.
You can be completely accepting of the high probability of alien life, as I am, without thinking they are all hiding behind Venus, waiting for us with a big "Well Done Earthlings" sign and some space balloons.
If they do exist, they'd still need to:
A) find us somehow, because we're quite small on the grand scale of things
B) get here from potentially millions of light years away
C) be interested enough in us to make the trip!
Maybe we are like the dull dinner party hosts.
They came, saw and thought we really werent worth bothering being in contact with again?
The little green ones are our friends, its the tall silver ones you have to watch out for, evil bastards!
Am quite enjoying this as my website is called imnotthealien 🙂
I know somebody who I am pretty sure is an alien, hence the webname ...in reality I can see where Tormalis is coming from. Odds have to be that there is other planetary life, who can say how advanced & if it has found us yet. We are radiataing plenty of stuff though so as long as they know which plain and frequency range to look in they'll find us or vica versa at some point.
Will the Human Race last that long?
Erm... that's non sequitur logic at it's finest.
The innevitable consequence of making science up I am afraid. Which I did.
"intelligent life traveling the vast distances to our world, would do it for the same reasons we would"
Seems an odd assumption to me. I would not care to anticipate the thoughts of an alien. Or a woman, for that matter.
"Odds have to be that there is other planetary life"
It's the 0, 1 or many problem. Either there is just 1 (us) or there are many. Highly unlikely that there are only 2 biologies/ecologies in the universe. Although that's a good premise for a scifi book.
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I went to Norwich town centre once.
You don't doubt extraterrestrials after something like that.
Imagine all those stars: it seems unlikely and immensely arrogant to assume that our Sun is the only one with any life orbiting it.
That's if it all really exists... we might all be in a dream, or in a machine as in the Matrix. All those so-called 'stars' may be a computer simulation, or a light show on the walls of the prison.
IMo the most likely is there are aliens and we are too dull for them to bother with
Haver we done [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation ]Drake equation[/url] and teh [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox ]Fermi Paradox yet?[/url]
Teh zoo hypothesis is plausible I believe
The universe is infinite and there are an infinite amount of stars,
No it isn't, and no there aren't.
There is life on other planets. Most likely it will just be bacteria type forms though.
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Statistics suggest that there should be tons of alien encounter stories, and in practice there are tons of alien encounter stories. This is known as Fermi's Lack-of-a-Paradox.
Aliens (greys) are the next stage in human evolution. They are time travellers from the future. It was on discovery channel. It didn't explain why they were fascinated with our a* ses though.
GrahamS - Membercompletely obvious that we are being spied upon by aliens all the time and that they are just waiting till we are sufficiently advanced to make contact. If you don't believe that you must be some sort of idiot.
Erm... that's non sequitur logic at it's finest.
You can be completely accepting of the high probability of alien life, as I am, without thinking they are all hiding behind Venus, waiting for us with a big "Well Done Earthlings" sign and some space balloons.
If they do exist, they'd still need to:
A) find us somehow, because we're quite small on the grand scale of things
B) get here from potentially millions of light years away
C) be interested enough in us to make the trip!
A) Since we keep sending out radio signals and detonating large nuclear thingamybobs, there will be some kind of effect that is detectible in space.
2) All of matter is simply electromagnetic fields in different forms, so another electromagnetic field that displaces time or allowes a craft to remain impervious to gravitational eddies would do it. How far have we come in 2000 years and how far could a species that isn't drunk, stoned or high as **** knows what, or idiotic even obsessed with assholes, tits and c0cks get in a few million. Humanity has spent hundreds of years chasing it's own tail. I doubt if there is a thicker more deluded race out there! Why would they come? to laugh until their sides hurt at a race obsessed with useless idiocy.
Lastly)why do we study ants or stars or even music, why do we study anything? TO LEARN!!!
They are time travellers from the future.
Interesting to think that, assuming their home planet is very far away, and also assuming they will have some means of travel that is rather quick to cover that distance, due to relativity they will actually be from the past should they ever reach us.
Read a very good book by Joe Haldeman called Peace and War (its actually 3 books). The first two books are all about a war between humans and an alien species called the Taurans. Because all the battles took part on different planets that were strategically important rather then the home planets (which would have just been nuked had they been discovered by the enemy), the travelling to those planets meant that sometimes you would meet an enemy who knew very little about you, from a time when the war had been going on a few months, to other times you would meet an enemy who had come from a time several years into the war, and could destroy you easily.
Since we keep sending out radio signals and detonating large nuclear thingamybobs, there will be some kind of effect that is detectible in space.
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Space is very large, I think anyone actually receiving those signals has a very small probability, unless they knew where and how to look for them already.
RealMan makes the point well. We only started sending out radio fairly recently. Soon we'll stop. It's an odd thing for an alien race to look for even if they could detect it amongst the background noise.
All of matter is simply electromagnetic fields in different forms, so another electromagnetic field that displaces time or allowes a craft to remain impervious to gravitational eddies would do it.
Yes there are plenty of fantastical imaginings possible that solve the small problem of travelling hundreds of light years, but there is also the very real possibility that there are certain fundamental limits in the universe which simply cannot be overcome regardless of how advanced our/their technology gets. As a very wise Scottish philosopher once said: "Ye cannae change the laws of physics Jim".
How far have we come in 2000 years and how far could a species that isn't drunk, stoned or high as **** knows what, or idiotic even obsessed with assholes, tits and c0cks get in a few million. Humanity has spent hundreds of years chasing it's own tail. I doubt if there is a thicker more deluded race out there! Why would they come? to laugh until their sides hurt at a race obsessed with useless idiocy.
Also, I think you have some species self-confidence issues there fleshy one.
Humans have achieved amazing things and will go onto achieve more if we don't kill ourselves first.