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Thank you Carbon - interesting!
@makkag maybe go through the process of elimination- you haven't tested positive & there's no evidence (at the moment) for the covid toes hypothesis then maybe look at your diet and sleep routine, alcohol intake and work life balance. Restart your exercise routine after a few days recovery and when u feel relatively fresh then measure it on day by day scale maybe look into using heart rate variability (plenty of free apps to use for this). 'Burnout' is a real possibility most of us can say our anxiety levels have been higher due to the world events recently. I use HRV as it not only gives me a physical read out taken form my HR every morning but also I can log my sleep/mood/muscle soreness/mental energy/ etc. I found this so valuable after my +ve covid result - I knew exactly when was the best time I could return to exercise. Good Luck.
yup, have heard of people refusing to get tested because of government guidance, despite it obviously (including my own experience!) being WAY out of date with respect to whatever variant is currently doing the rounds. Just another thing to add to the **** up list...The 3 main symptoms are bollocks if you’ve been vaccinated. Most other countries have updated their guidance
Anyway felt better again but now I am getting really fatigued in the day randomly and far more lethargic towards everything including work.
The weird thing is I can kind of get through it or avoid it by working out .. can feel ratshite but put my runners on and go do a fast 5k off the bat, Seems worst early afternoon – Is this just me getting older at 43 or is anyone seeing the same sort of thing?
That's interesting. I've felt like that since my first vaccine. Really tired and lethargic, particularly early afternoon, but feel great if/when I lift myself and go for a ride/race (Zwift/IRL - doesn't matter). My times good as well when I do. Then afterwards I feel wrecked again. Certain I have not had Covid (WFH with Mrs and neither of us go anywhere, take regular LFTs, don't know anyone directly who has had Covid, etc). I'm 60 so been putting it down to age and just being worn out with all of the restrictions
Well, made it 18 months without getting infected and thanks to Boris relaxing everything and school we now have it.
Our 6 yr old and most of his class are out, i am waiting on pcr test but have the aching muscles, elevated heart rate, snotty nose and intermittent sore throat and a bad head.
Thankful for the vaccine as this isn't fun
I've been feeling pretty much better and quite a bit more active with chores and driving kids to school recently (since quarantine period finished) and I feel like there's been a bit of a comeback of the virus, or at least the post viral fatigue has ramped up again.
Feeling v tired, achey and fluey again today. Taste is kind of 60% back to normal I think.
You are me. Been uber careful since it started, no eat out to help out, no foriegn travel, pretty much kept ourselves to ourselves, washed food and took huge precautions at work (no furlough for us, just taking up the slack) , got eldest (17) vaccinated as soon as we could - her choice.
Then the 14 yr old comes in with a positive test on Sunday night as she always tests twice a week and I got mine today. She can only have picked it up from school or possibly from a shop on the walk there or back or possibly the fair the previous week - who knows as its business as usual out there and masks are but a memory.
Still hopefully the vaccination will give me and probably my wife a lighter dose....I think this is going to rip now. During the last 18 months I didnt really know anyone who had had it, quite frankly probably because I live in a nice bit of East Sussex where we have all been able to easily take the precautions needed without it impacting hugely. My local area constantly came near the bottom of case numbers.
Now its a free for all and no matter how sensible you are its going to get you sooner or later. Just this week at least 5 people I know have got it.
I'm through it now, although taste is at 50% and smell at 10%. Have managed a couple of full days WFH (on Monday I had gone to bed by midday). Back in the office from next week.
Not fun, but not too bad either when you consider what has happened to many. Get your jabs kids!
@winston
To be honest we have been waiting for this to happen. The boy was really the only likely route in and with delta we were just waiting.
Sounds like it has emptied his class though so hopefully some longer term protection, I'm just glad he seems to have had a mild dose, started Sunday and he seems to be on the way out of it now. Just us to go
Winston - sounds like you are near me. Im in Robertsbridge. My 13 y/o only had light symptoms for a day or so then a few days tired. Rother was almost Covid free for so long, with only 2 monster spikes - Alpha in January, then Delta.
I dread to think what Mrs Zip would be like without the jabs. She's been coughing for 10 days now, no appetite and zero energy. I was lethargic for 3 days and bit of a cough but hopefully well on the mend now.
Yes my 14 yr old is (fingers crossed) pretty much back to normal and so far the only symptoms were a light flu and cough with a raised temp. We thought we might get away with it before my black line of doom this morning!
One thing though, on Tuesday I started sneezing uncontrollably from about mid day and didnt stop till I went to bed. Then yesterday I sneezed a lot mire than normal but not as bad as day before. I felt absolutely fine just couldnt stop sneezing. Then as soon as the positive test came and my nowflu symptoms the sneezing stopped completely.
Now if I was a virus and I wanted to evolve another transmission method.......that is pretty much perfect. Feel great, think you have some pollen or dust up your nose all the time you are covering every surface with a fine aerosol of virus.
Yep - I sneezed a lot too for a few days after my +ve PCR
I tested positive 6 days ago and tested positive today.Everyone says you should book a PCR. What does a PCR test tell me that I don't already know?
Is it more of a tool to get a definite clear before going back to work?
What does a PCR test tell me that I don’t already know?
Whether you've got coronavirus or not? The LFT is pretty unreliable.
update on me/mrs from 1 page back if interested
she tested positive tuesday 7/9 had a 2 days of feeling rough - bad headache, snots, sneezes, bunged up nose etc, slight tickly cough, then more or less felt ok by the friday the same week, so for her just a few days of cold type symptoms, she said she could have gone to work everyday bar 1 but if it was just a cold (and not known to be covid) she'd have muddled through the day
i went for a pcr on friday 10th as advised by T&T and came back negative - have since tested negative LFT everyday (as im in work too)
shes out of isolation period as of tomorrow - so looks (touch wood) like ive escaped it somehow, not sure how, doesnt seem any rhyme or reason - we have effectively lived on different floors of the house/bathrooms etc and not slept together since her positive, ive slept like a dream since 🙂 so not in a rush to go back hehe!
im sure ill get it at some point though - hopefully as mild as hers has been would be nice
other than that im glad she's got it out of the way, after being a deputy head throughout covid and avoiding it in the dark days when they had no support what so ever and selfish horrible parents, it seems a silver lining she has come out of it unmarked
Now its a free for all and no matter how sensible you are its going to get you sooner or later. Just this week at least 5 people I know have got it.
and yet cases are down 22% week on week, admissions are starting to drop and deaths are levelling off.
obviously this is the nationwide picture but logically, its a infection spread by social contact, so if its in your social group then its going to feel like its all around you.
it rocketed here in the SW early august and is now receded to a 1/3 of that , in fact looking at the coronvirus dashboard, the trend for the SE is very similar.
Cases in South West | Coronavirus in the UK (data.gov.uk)
Cases in South East | Coronavirus in the UK (data.gov.uk)
Am interested to see what happens over the next few weeks with schools returning in England
they'be been back nearly two weeks. wouldn't you expect to see an associated rise in cases already?
Certainly the start of it yes.
What does a PCR test tell me that I don’t already know?
My understanding is that some sampling is done from positive PCR's to further genotype it in order to track variants.
There's proper sciencey info out there but this is an accessible version that I quickly found on googling
So getting a PCR done is still valuable whether it informs you further or not.
"they’be been back nearly two weeks. wouldn’t you expect to see an associated rise in cases already?"
No, hasn't been enough time for it to feed into the data yet but its coming.
Eldest tested positive (PCR) on wednesday after a faint line on Lflow she did for school that morning so far rest of family negative, she's just tired/headache with a bit of a cough, I think currently I know more people with covid than I've ever done family/friends/neighbours/work colleagues probably about 10 that I know of that have tested positive this week/last week.
I think currently I know more people with covid than I’ve ever done
+1
I think currently I know more people with covid than I’ve ever done
Yeah us too.
But importantly I think, I don't know of anyone who's needed any sort of care.
I always thought it would end this way, Boris in England seems happy to open the 'taps' as wide as possible, hoping to close them if it starts looking like it will over-run the NHS, well he's got shit form for acting before it's too late.
In the other Nations we're being slightly more cautious and here in Wales, numbers are slowly falling, or have been for a few days, it might be a trend, it might not be, in either case they say more than 90% of Adults here now have antibodies one way or another.
All this talk months ago that we could roll out the vaccine and achieve herd immunity, seemed unlikely to me at the time, and even less so now. As I've send before, we'll all have to take our turn with Covid, my Son had it last week, I didn't, despite living in the same house, didn't touch me thanks to the vaccine, next time I might not be so lucky, but I think it's inevitable that I'll not only catch it as some point, but multiple times over the course of the rest of my life, each time and at some point, it simply won't be a dangerous virus anymore.
“they’be been back nearly two weeks. wouldn’t you expect to see an associated rise in cases already?”
No, hasn’t been enough time for it to feed into the data yet but its coming.
Leicestershire has 5 out of the Top 10 Covid areas, and the head of public health was on TV the other day saying it was because their schools went back early, plus out of school activities resuming.
Did 20k on the bike yesterday and that did me in for a few hours afterwards. First day back in the office after a week of WFH and I have to admit that I’m having a bit of a “wobble”.
they’be been back nearly two weeks. wouldn’t you expect to see an associated rise in cases already?
Six kids in my daughter's class tested positive on LFT last week, then negative on PCR. Those same kids are now re-testing on PCR and are coming back positive.
My own PCR was negative yet I have nearly all of the symptoms. I went for a re-test today.
Well, I can now join the gang. Double (Pfizer) jabbed and think I caught it from a friend's 8 year old son in Sheffield who tested positive a few days after I saw them but, had just started coughing the evening we met. 20% of the kids in my daughter's year at school (Year 10) in Derby have it, as do 10 of their teachers. It's running rife. So far for me just a head cold after first testing positive on Friday morning (LFT, *very* faint hint of a line, confirmed with a PCR on Friday afternoon) but I can feel a bit of chest discomfort starting. I had full-blown pneumonia once so really hoping to avoid that..
Did 20k on the bike yesterday and that did me in for a few hours afterwards. First day back in the office after a week of WFH and I have to admit that I’m having a bit of a “wobble”.
I'm similar, took the kids to loather castle adventure park on sat then did only about 10k Sunday morning - went to Booths after and suddenly felt like I was about to collapse. Been mostly in bed since.
For those that lost their sense of smell and taste - did it return?
My test came back positive this morning. I can't even smell the Olbas oil I've been sprinkling liberally on my pillow.
My wife, who has identical symptoms, tested negative. We don't believe a word of it.
For those that lost their sense of smell and taste – did it return?
Partner lost her taste and smell for 3 months,a year on she still has a few things that don't taste/smell right and sometimes gets a'petrol/fuel' smell for no reason.
Well, it caught up with me a fortnight ago. After 18 months of being pretty cautious (no travel at all for a year last year and even now, pretty limited radius of travel) I went to Germany to the Eurobike show. Took the (pretty empty) overnight ferry from Hull and drove. The show itself required a vax certificate to get in and a mask in all indoor areas. Pretty reassuring... Anyway, somewhere along the line I caught C19 - had a violently sneezy cold from Sunday 5th and lost my taste and smell for a week - but only had snotty nose/cold for the week. After five days, I could smell coffee again. And now I reckon I'm back to 90% taste/smell again.
What was interesting is that, as we were going to visit the mother in law after Eurobike, I got a (pro-administered) Covid test in Germany on the 7th. And then, ahead of coming back on the 11th, got another test on the 10th. Both negative. Did the day 2 PCR on the 14th and it came back positive on the 16th (while my wife was negative), with instructions to isolate until next Friday (ten days after the positive PCR). After a chat with Track and Trace, though, they reckoned that if my symptoms were my big cold that first Monday, they'd count ten days from then, so I was free to travel yesterday.
So, as a twice-vaxxed, once Covid survivor, does that mean I can go clubbing and stuff? Not that I'm going to...
@chipps Yay we share a +ve anniversary day. Except I have to isolate till Sunday!
Glad to hear your smell came back. I had cold symptoms from around the 16th when I tested positive (though I had been in voluntary isolation from a few days before when my daughter tested positive - it just seemed sensible) but seemingly made a full recovery after 4 days until yesterday when my sense of smell abruptly left me.....which was a bit weird.
The smell things is weird, @winston, I had a loss of smell last summer too. Just realised that I'd not tasted my morning coffee. Then went through the jars in the cupboard, trying to taste/smell anything. Coffee, no. Peanut butter, no. Lime pickle? Nope... Went for a test and that came back -ve and my smell returned after a couple of days.
This time round, it was preceded by a heavy, snotty cold, which usually isn't great for smelling things anyway, but I really couldn't notice anything. I chose food on texture and not taste for a few days. Slowly, though it came back. Probably took a good week after getting the slightest hint of coffee aroma to fully get my taste/smell back. I could still do with a couple more points on the smell scale to make me completely happy... Enjoy the enforced week off! Hope the smell comes back soon...
What I did find was that I started philosophising about 'What IS smell' and 'What IS taste' and really over analysing it, which doesn't really help when you're just trying to drink some tea... 🙂
18 days after positive test and still tired. Just had to walk to our welding shop and back, a distance of 500m (ish) with a few flights of stairs on the way. Dizzy with fatigue now.
Also, my sense of smell returned long enough for me to appreciate that my teenage son had dropped his guts the other night, then promptly vanished again.
Getting very bored of it.
I'm 52 and I'm double jabbed, but I've finally managed to catch it. Negative LFT wednesday, positive PCR Thursday. Two of my kids go to school and third one works in a school where there are currently doing LFT everyday and have reintroduced mask wearing, So I've git school pools where it could have come from.
On Tuesday night i went for a 5k run, it felt easy enough but heart rare was sky high.
On Wednesday I went rapidly downhill, most of it is a blank, dont recall at all.
So far so dull...
However I haven't had a sense of smell for over a decade, but it's come back!
Might be my turn.
I've felt a bit lethargic since monday. No cough, no fever. Smell and taste are fine but just feel a bit yuck. I've done at least 5 LF tests and they've all been negative.
The missus woke up this morning feeling ill with an occasional cough. She did a LF test and the second the sample hit the T section the line appeared. I did yet another LF test and it's still negative.
We went for PCR tests this morning and just waiting for the results. Perfect timing seeing as I'm absolutely stressed out my head at work and I booked my first week off in 6 months next week 🙄
Well, I’m in the club… 🙁
Felt a bit off yesterday morning, usually do a lateral flow on a Wed before I go into work Thursday and Friday.
Came back positive, just got PCR result and it’s a positive which I expected as I had a massive fever last night. Lost taste today, got a bit of a cough and a bungy nose but just tired really.
Most likely infection date was Saturday when I spent all afternoon in pubs watching rugby.
Double jabbed, 5.5 months ago, so hopefully this will be the worst of it.
For those that lost their sense of smell and taste – did it return?
Mine went Christmas day, like a switch - ate Christmas dinner, fine, half hour later, poured a JD and coke - nothing, was like drinking water.
Not sure I have the same strength of taste and smell as before, but most things seem normal, with two very distinct exceptions. I've mentioned one before, not sure about the other.
Poo, trumps, any excrement, be it human or animal, doesn't register. I simply cannot smell it. At all
The other one is onions and that happened some time after. We went to Dorset in the summer and visited quite a few restaurants. There was always a really unpleasant smell - like nothing I've ever smelt before. I assumed for a while it was seafood. Took me a couple of weeks to determine that it's actually onions. It's a bit annoying, as I used to like onions and a lot of dishes that contain onions. It's still ongoing
So I was training all year for trail marathons, building up to it with a Lake District half marathon in June, followed by a 30 mile trail ultra in the Brecon Beacons end of July, then an mtb/kayak/trail adventure race first weekend of September. So felt quite fit. Started to feel really stressed, couldn’t figure out how to basic stuff at work, was wondering what was going on. That fuelled anxiety and stress at this ‘out of the blue’ brain fog. Seriously considered quitting job and industry as I lost all confidence. Got signed off with stress, assuming it was work-related. Then started to feel snotty and head-aches every night and couldn’t sleep more than a few hours. Kept checking for Covid symptoms but nothing unanimous and LTFs showing -ve. Then, four days after being signed off and feeling really rotten, noticed - but almost imperceptible - intermittent smell of something moudly socks. Like a basset hound I went off round the house trying to figure out where the smell was coming from (clean clothes on!). Then thought maybe it was C19, and lo, LTF popped up +ve in the way as mentioned above, sample barely touched the testing thingy and both bars were clearly showing.
Lost smell and taste that day (before I’d even got to the PCR centre). Lit an incense stick and couldn’t smell it at all. Food and drink tasted neutral. Although interestingly, the sugar/spice/bitter receptors on my tongue were still working, just not that actual taste of something. That was weird. Gave up eating anything tasty but also found that I could eat masses of chocolate because the overall taste wasn’t making me ill. All food tasted and felt like mush. A friend said the smell of diesel made him feel sick, although I didn’t have that experience.
Struggled to walk up a 100 metre hill I was previously doing multiple running reps up and down, just a few weeks previously. Chest felt really tight and had no stamina. Heart rate was mental. Normally 145ish on the running, but shot up to 185 (running max is 183!) so stopped running by then. Couldn’t do zwift at all, ‘cos legs were screaming and hr maxing out.
Tested -ve about five days later, smell and taste returned around two weeks later. Gradually building up fitness. Can just about handle a half hour zwift training session or a 5km easy flat run.
So yeah. That was just with one jab though. Had the second two weeks after recovering from C19.
My PCR came back as negative, the mrs is positive. Utterly bizarre. She was at a large concert on Tuesday and started feeling ill on Thursday. I've done another lateral flow this morning which is still negative.
Just getting over it now - picked up my 8 yr old twins from their mothers house on Friday and my son came into my room at 5:30AM complaining of being hot. He has a +ve PCR later on Sat, his sister and I both on Sunday.
It wasn't too bad - felt rough through Sun evening until Tuesday and have been gradually getting better since.
My resting HR has just dropped from 50 ish to 44 though - saw 40 at one point. No obvious ill effects from that though and blood oxygen levels still as before according to my Garmin watch - is that a normal Covid effect or I have I suddenly just got really fit ?