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Had a week of no energy, a cough and lungs feel a bit crap, breathing shallow.
Exactly how I'd describe it.
Really good to hear Frank and Mrs RNP are doing OK, sounds pretty scary.
A colleague tested positive last week. He said he had a cough for a day and some very mild chest tightness but that was it thankfully. No fever or other symptoms.
Just shows how broad the symptoms can be.
late 50's....don't know about health issues.
Just learned another colleague has been taken in to ITU.......late 20's and healthy.
A colleague tested positive last week. He said he had a cough for a day and some very mild chest tightness but that was it thankfully. No fever or other symptoms.
Just shows how broad the symptoms can be.
got exaxctly the same symptons with the cough saturday. dry ticklish cough (can't remember having anything quite like it, came on remain constant then departed in a day) nothing too drastic no fever (if anything a little low on temp) though I had quite a bad headache, on 7 days of self isolation will have to wait for the home antibody test to find out if it was covid-19.
Close friend and colleague has it. Fit and healthy 38 year old. He lives in South Africa where testing is more widespread and despite not being admitted to hospital he has been positively confirmed as having it.
He caught it over here on a 2 week business trip in March (usually people take home a giant Toblerone from Duty Free, but he took home a deadly virus!). Our office have been on full alert, but thankfully nobody else has caught it. I must admit part of me wanted to catch a mild dose as a proxy for a vaccine, particularly given how well he has been feeling.
He has described manflu-like symptoms. No cough but shortness of breath, headache and temperature. It has however knocked him for six and he has been left exhausted but nowhere near death's door. Not the most fun he has ever had for 2 weeks. The most telling comment he has made was that if he didn't know that coronavirus was 'a thing', he wouldn't have thought much of it and carried on working.
Sadly it would appear that some people are not so lucky. My grandmother is a very frail 90 and lives in a care home. Her neighbour (with whom she has daily close contact) has been diagnosed and admitted to hospital. The doctors do not expect her out in anything other than a box and are setting the family up for that. She is in the ICU where there are beds, but in a few weeks' time I fear that she wouldn't justify a bed and would be sent home to die. Now waiting for news of my grandmother who we haven't been allowed to see for 4 weeks since her 90th birthday.
Brutal times.
I think my eldest daughter has it,she's eight. Hacking cough, temperature, lethargy, tiredness and loss of appetite. She's been sleeping for a couple of hours each afternoon. She first got her cough a week last Saturday and seemed to turn the corner last weekend. We've tried to not make a big deal about it as she's pretty anxious about the whole thing.
Friend of a friend has been diagnosed and hospitalised with it.
He’s a Healthy mid 40’s very fit and strong rugby player. He spend 2 nights in hospital with breathing issues but has been sent home now so looks like he’s past the worst.
Wee fella we use on a good number of occasions for painting passed away as a result of the virus on Saturday.
A lovely wee man, originally from the western isles, he'd come in and paint, when you weren't supposed to be listening he'd softly sing some lovely laments in his native Gaelic tongue.
Always played the wee crabbit man, but in reality he was a gem, and would do anything for you, looked after a lot of the other pensioners around here too, sure he probably never took any money from them.
Rest in peace Charlie. 💙💙💙
Well my gran died of it last night, contracted in hospital whilst being treated for copd. Sad she was completely on her own.
Sorry to hear that nobeer and DT78. Everyone in my family has been ok thus far but I shudder to think how hard it would be if one gets taken to hospital given you can't visit.
Really sorry, DT78. Charlie sounded lovely, nobeer. 🙁
Sorry for your loss DT78, that's so sad. Nobeerinthefridge, sad but at the same a nice story.
99 % sure I had it last week. Started with a sore throat and strange feeling in the back of my head. Development into a fever , freezing one minute roasting the next. Then came a sore stomach followed by the worst Diahorrea Ive ever had. Still had the shivers. Its now pretty much gone but just left with a slight sore throat and not as much energy as I normally would .
I would hate to think how my mum would feel with the symptons .
My fiancée works in the NHS As a Radiographer in direct contact with some of these positive tested patients for C19. She’s absolutely wiped out from what she’s seeing, pretty harrowing sights and I’m also very scared she gets it or brings it home.
She broke down in tears the other night saying she expects she will get it she just doesn’t want to die from it...
We've been in self isolation for around 3 weeks now, Mrs is 24 weeks pregnant and her work colleague was sent home with suspected C19, so we were told to go wfh and not to come back (both work in the same building).
Woken up this morning with a tight chest, both have slight headaches and a bit of a cough, she has some nausea and digestion pains, not sure if thats pregnancy related though but no fevers so far. Not feeling too run down, still able to work etc. Just hoping this doesn't progress, pregnant wife, 3yr old and I've had chest issues since my previous flu in december/jan 🙁
Friend in Denmark has just been diagnosed, he's been isolated from his partner and 2yr old for weeks now, thought it had gone away but flared up again once he was feeling better.
Cycling buddy of mine and his family have had it. Not too serious, usual symptoms, and the teens less so affected. Brother self isolated for 2 weeks as his little lad was poorly, but not sure what it was, so they were on the safe side.
Anyone just been 'unwell' for a few weeks ? I've had the 'runs' for a few days last week, and a right snotty nose for weeks, which has progressed to bits of blood in the mucus. Occasional temperatures/sweats.
Daughter was ill two weeks ago, high fever for a day, sore head and occasional cough. we think that was it for her. Wife has some odd symptoms, but is generally knackered. I've been ok so far.
However, 3 or so weeks ago I had an upset stomach, headache and overnight temperature. Didn't think much of it at the time, thought the sweats were due to something I'd eaten. that was possibly it, but the trouble is, we just don't know until we can get hold of the antibody test kits.
I do have sinus congestion, but it's coming into allergy season, so I normally end up a bit snotty around this time of year.
Spoke to my GP today, mainly because over 3weeks on from feeling off I wasn't overly happy with the way my chest feels after light exercise. Having gone through symptoms and timescales they thought highly likely to have had it, a step up from self diagnosis bingo. Probably as certain as I can be until an antibody test is available. Just been advise to take it easy on the exercise front. Walking and light cycling. I explained light cycling was all I'm good for.
First, condolences to those on here who've lost someone to COVID-19, very sad.
I'm another who's had some stuff that could be the thing. A few weeks back I woke up in the middle of the night with a sharp headache and nausea, threw up a few times, shivery and sweaty. Developed an intermittent cough. I also had some odd blurred vision stuff around the same time. I put it down to stress and spinach.
I actually monitor my HRV levels using a smartphone app called ithlete and had a slight bit of a decline around that point, but was basically okay. Then I did two hilly, but not brutal cross rides on consecutive days over the weekend and the next day, Monday - roughly ten days ago - my HRV had fallen off very obviously and my resting HR had risen.
Normally taken standing along with HRV it's around 50bpm or so, it's climbed to the mid 70s. At the same time my HRV dropped down to the high 60s/low 70s. It's essentially a measure of holistic recovery / wellness and I've been monitoring it for years now. For context, when I had a proper death lurgee which left me flat out on the sofa for two weeks, it dropped below 40, I think, so my current scores aren't particularly low. If I've well recovered though, I'd expect HRV to be in the mid-80s, so scoring consistently around 65-70 is a definite fall-off.
The other symptom that's come and gone is a weird tightness in the chest, that feels almost like burning, and breathlessness if I fast walk up the stairs for example, a little like being at high altitude.
The other day I tried a very gentle recovery spin on the turbo, normally at around 130 watts constant, my HR at that level is normally around 110 to 115 bpm, currently it's 130 or so. I ride a fair bit, ftp just shy of 300 watts, so i'm reasonably fit for a guy in his 50s. Clearly for the same amount of work, I'm needing more blood / oxygen, which suggests my lung function really is impaired and I'm not just imagining it. Finally, I've spent the last week and a half feeling generally fatigued and achey.
It also turns out that Mrs (sic) BWD had a four-day head-ache and an itchy throat / occasional cough just before I did, which she also put down to stress. For context, she has the immune system of a cockroach, so it's entirely believable that she had COVID-19. She also recorded around 180npm HR on part of a steady flat walk, so there was something odd happening there
I suspect I would have managed the same way if I hadn't doubled up on two hilly back-to-back rides which pushed me over the edge. My advice, with retrospective wisdom from this, is that if you do feel even slightly odd, back off.
As per a lot of other posters here, without testing, I honestly can't say whether I've had COVID. I never had a persistent fever, just the odd shivery bout, and I didn't lose my appetite or sense of taste and smell, though I have had a slightly metallic taste in my mouth - reminded me of flagyl side effects, the stuff you take to wipe out giardia. I've just plateaued along feeling shite and weak and coughing and doing the tight chest / bad breathing thing. I guess it could be or could equally be another, different viral thing.
I swapped e-mails with the guy who created the ithlete app and his take was that serious cases would probably present with a resting HR of over 100 and breathing at 20 breaths per minute plus along with a lowered HRV score, potentially down in the 30s-40s range.
The other observation I have, is that there does seem to be a lot of this thing around. I know now of five people, all related to my partner's relatively small work team, who have definitely tested positive for COVID-19, two - who caught it on a ski trip - have been hospitalised, the others have had it relatively mild. In once case, the husband and two kids dodged it, despite living in the same house as the wife, who'd tested positive.
I'm kind of hoping we've both had it and I continue to recover and that an anti-body test becomes widely available before too long. Sorry, that all feels a bit self-indulgent, but if it helps anyone else, great and I'm reassured by my recorded data that I'm not imagining stuff. The one thing I'd take away form my experience is that if you feel bad, even a little, don't go out on your bike, just back off and rest up. I suspect if I'd done that, I wouldn't have ended up quite so tired and rubbish.
Stay safe!
ps: the other thing I had, which I'd forgotten about until TiRed mentioned it on the main discussion thread, was tingling fingers early on when I was also getting odd blurred peripheral vision.
Also stuff has been very up and down. You feel fine for a morning, then spend the afternoon coughing and feeling dreadful. And repeat. For context, I've had much worse with flu a couple of times in the past, but the fear of ending up really unwell isn't great.
I’ve spoken to a number of people now who’ve had first-hand professional experience of people with c19. It seems most of my symptoms line up except for the obvious lack of cough/high temp. But the most telling was from a friend who is a critical care nurse. She said that they are getting a lot of people coming in that are coping ok with the symptoms until day 8-10 and which point the ‘drop off a cliff’. This was certainly my experience.
Exactly my experience. Fell off that cliff last night. After triage by 111 COVID team, who were excellent on the phone, rule out heart attack, rule out shock, monitor, COVID team came to the house first thing this morning to check SATS. I am OK, but have serious lack of breath, but NO cough and no temperature.
I believe that people who fail to mount that temperature response and have a dry cough ARE the ones who have a good chance of progessing (dry cough is high in the airway, so the virus has not gone deep, where O2 is exchanged).
I've had flu a few times (incl H1N1). This is so different. No real pain (light muscle cramp in calfs), a little weakness of the arms. But ALL the signs of dyspnoea - tingling fingers, blurring vision, higher pulse. Oxygen sats were 94 resting until I started breathing hard. Probably lower last night. And when you race bikes, you know what your pulse should be lying on the bed (Hint not 75bpm!!!)
Hope you are recovering.
Both my parents have it. My mum is now thankfully over the worst but has been very very unwell for 2 weeks. My dad, who is still in hospital is not expected to recover. He has parkinsons and has been in hospital for 16 days. He has stopped eating and drinking and now is unable to communicate. Yesterday we were contacted about the issue of resuscitation and that they didn't believe it would be a worthwhile undertaking essentially. He is slowly shutting down.
We are all heartbroken, despite his parkinsons he was generally well and at 69 years old he had some good quality life ahead of him. The virus just hit him incredibly hard and he's been unable to recover.
It's been a pretty devastating virus within our family.
So sad to hear that about your dad. You must be going through a lot right now.
Yes, made worse by being unable to see him in hospital or do much to help my mum as we don't live close, trying to keep a business going, look after/school a 5 year old at home. It's definitely taken its toll, but then I am far from being alone in this sort of situation.
They’d probably keep you away even if you lived closer. Look after those you can.
It feels so worthless, but very best wishes to everyone, and the families of everyone, riding the treacherous waves of this disease.
I wonder how mild the symptoms can be..?
Personally feel quite fatigued, tight chest, brain fog almost like a slight hangover.. no cough or temperature. Definitely don't feel right. Am I supposed to isolate without the main symptoms?
i asked this on the other corona thread but i think it'll get lost in the noise.
Something that struck me earlier reading this and the ‘have you had coronavirus’ thread.
By all reports you don’t get a test unless your are considered highly likely to have it and even then maybe not.
~150,000 have had tests in the UK
~120,000 have tested negative.
So what have they got?
Personally feel quite fatigued, tight chest, brain fog almost like a slight hangover.. no cough or temperature
This is what I had at the start of March. No idea if it was C19, but it was something. Found out yesterday the reason our secretary was off in mid Feb was for a cough, high temperature, and loss of taste/smell.
So her's was before the symptom alerts really came out, and I (and others in the office) didn't hit the full symptom list.
No idea though - really. I hope so, as it would mean we can get out again
No idea though – really. I hope so, as it would mean we can get out again
That's the challenging one, as soon as you start permitting the immune there will be people who aren't who'll try to get out there as well. Suddenly we're all back to infection again. Same thing if people drop the biosecurity - there's nothing to say it cant be picked up and transferred on skin. People start seeing other people doing less and they start to do less as well.
It all works on everyone holding the line.
Jambo
Winter flu A apparently
The numbers presening v actuals after testing was running at 9%
This wad once you had been admitted and tested
Lack of test means thousands of people are at home with this years flu, thinking that they have covid19, when they dont. Hence the i had covid and it was just like a bad cold report s
They have not been test for c19 so are simply guessing
This is an issue that might prove to be a problem in the future
This year's winter flu a presents identically to c19, but after 7 days you get better, not fall off a cliff and need to be intubated
Ianad, but rsised this back on p120 ish on the long thread, then my suspicion was confirmed byban actual docton r4
It all works on everyone holding the line.
oh i realise, but that's why the Chinese have given everyone a QR code with green/orange/red. If you're out, and your QR code says you shouldn't be, you're taken in.
Possibly wouldn't work over here though!
Hence the i had covid and it was just like a bad cold report s
If they'd had proper flu they wouldn't be saying it was just like a bad cold, it's ****ing grim.
Worse than a lot of the reported CV19 symptoms from confirmed cases in healthy people.
One of my colleagues tested positive two weeks ago. She didn't have a cough or temperature and was only being tested because she was about to start chemo and they wanted to make sure she didn't have it.
She hasn't had any symptoms since then, so I guess she must have already had it before then meaning she was in the office with the rest of us. I strongly suspect that the relatively mild cold like symptoms the rest of us and our households had were CV19.
Based in France by the way (half an hour's drive from Italy).
If they’d had proper flu they wouldn’t be saying it was just like a bad cold, it’s **** grim.
Worse than a lot of the reported CV19 symptoms from confirmed cases in healthy people.
maybe if there was widespread testing for flu (i assume that its possible?), it would turn out that there is a wide spread of symptom severity and even asymptomatic cases?
so the classic, you haven't had flu if you haven't spend two weeks in bed unable to move may not be necessarily true?
Winter flu A apparently
I had the flu jab, as I do every year, back in October.
I know the jab isn't infallible, but there's been no reports of a strain of flu not included in this year's jab.
OAP, the line will crumble, the important questions are when and how.
This will go through the population at some point, it will not disappear due to the current lockdown. It depends on whether the government manages it well or screws it up like the pub lock down and all the loop holes in allowing businesses to stay open. Unfortunately it will be the latter.
According to many of the French experts on TV and radio the tests are not very reliable; between 20 and 30% of false negatives are being quoted but there's not much said about false positives. A 16-year-old with no health issues tested negative twice on admission to hospital with breathing difficulties before a third test was positive - she died just after.
In all the very young deaths in France so far there has been one common factor: Ibuprofen (news Europe 1)
I agree with Singletrackmind that it's highly unlikely that most people on this thread who think they've had covid have, they've had flu or a cold. There are so far two confirmed cases among regular contributors if I've been following well enough - hope they survive to post another day and maybe convince some that taking confinement seriously is a good idea.
Have we heard from Boris recently? I wonder how he is doing.
of course it isn't true, it's just the dumbarses/hardnuts on here who like to play top trumps with everything. Often the debilitating symptoms are actually part of your body's immune reaction which obviously various from person to person, as does the severity of the illness.so the classic, you haven’t had flu if you haven’t spend two weeks in bed unable to move may not be necessarily true?
I returned to work this week after 14 days off where I never showed major symptoms like my better half who had to have a second week off work due to breathlessness, but I felt so run down, I was very fortunate that the delivery I was asked to do was relatively light in terms of a backlog of mail and I should have bought a lottery ticket for how little of the duties packets were sorted for me to take out yesterday compared to a normal Wedsnesday...
But despite being so light, I was really feeling physically fatigued towards the end of delivery and even moreso after cycling up the short but moderate incline on the way home on the ~14Kg fatbike. Before I started coming down with something in late Feb, I'd usually do a "bruising" Zwift workout and maybe a small race after work, not remotely feeling up to that!*
* My turbo broke on Sunday, yet to open up but hope it's simply the Direto belt snapped, but taking the road bike out for a short local spin was the last thing I wanted to do after work.
I wonder how mild the symptoms can be..?
Personally feel quite fatigued, tight chest, brain fog almost like a slight hangover.. no cough or temperature. Definitely don’t feel right. Am I supposed to isolate without the main symptoms?
@cloudnine
Yes you should self-isolate, not for you but just in case you do have it. The numbers are really hard to decipher because of the lack of testing, the time scales involved and the discrepancy in how we report deaths etc, but it is likely that 1/3rd to 1/10th people with certain symptoms do have the virus. And it may be that it takes 8 days before mild symptoms become breathing difficulties. So better to self-isolate immediately. I know it is a pain, but it is the morally right thing to do.
This is an interesting and clear explanation from data that points to a loss of smell being a significant indicator of COVID-19 rather than another infection or virus, and that fatigue is a big indicator too, but harder to differentiate between COVID-19 and other illness. COVID-19 Symptom tracker early results
On Monday I started with a bit of a dry cough and on Monday night in bed I felt a bit wheezy (was very aware I was breathing sort of thing), had a bit of a temperature and was hot/cold, woke up Tuesday morning feeling ok, breathing ok but still had a bit of a cough. Am feeling fine now, a bit woolly headed but otherwise ok. Have I had it? I have no idea. I'm not trying to be melodramatic or owt here, I'm just curious.
edit- I'm self isolating now, just in case.
but it is likely that 1/3rd to 1/10th people with certain symptoms do have the virus.
I'd agree with that with the qualifier that "certain symptoms" means their symptoms are severe enough and characteristic enough to have got through all the triage systems and been admitted to hopsital as strong Covid suspects because numbers form Italy, France and the UK put the number of positives for hospital admission in that range.