my neighbours opposite (who are in their 60s) have had their son and wife over for the day last Sunday and again today.
In the house or in the garden staying 2metres apart? If the former, perhaps pop over and tell them they're being selfish ****s?
Anyway, reasonably reasonable behaviour round these parts.
Bringing their ethnicity into it from the off, then saying it has nothing to do with it and then immediately contradicting yourself with another unfounded speculation that suggests you do think it is relevant.
Oh FFS. He wasn't bringing their ethnicity into it, he was bringing their EFL into it. It's not that difficult.
EFL??
out with their mates walking/cycling, 3 in Esholt woods the other day,no helmets trakkie bottoms etc,
Really. No helmets AND trackie bottoms. Shocking. Hanging's too good for them...🙄
English as a foreign language.
Oh FFS. He wasn’t bringing their ethnicity into it, he was bringing their EFL into it. It’s not that difficult.
That’s right, blame footballers again
Our next door neighbours have pretty much had an 'open house' since the lock down. One half of the couple if a Dr at Addenbrookes hospital, so you'd think they'd know better. It was her B'day the other day and they had all their friends over for drinks...
If you can't get a Doctor to behave I'm not sure what hope there is....
Derek, if their origin wasn’t important to you - why mention it? There is no acceptable cultural reason to not obey the current guidelines - in any culture I am aware of. People may use it as an excuse - but that’s it, and let’s face it your neighbours nor their guests were going to come on here to try and justify it.
It’s not “piety” to point out someone’s prejudice. All of us have them and mostly we are unaware of them or try to reject or hide them.
FWIW our next door and opposite neighbors are both doctors at the local hospital and have been exemplary.
The ones opposite usually have relatives coming and going several times a day, but not a peep since lockdown.
Only the aforementioned neighbors who seem to think they are free to break the rules, but then they are the same ones who used to throw their rubbish over their back fence into the woods (until I started throwing it back).
As much as i admire all this curtain twitching and I guess it's probably needed to keep the generally well behaved on the straight and narrow it is important to remember what we are trying to achieve - a 75% reduction in all social interaction nationally. It's nothing to do with individuals. These measures are have been calculated to get to 75% taking into account the bit most of us are still inadvertently doing, those that can't to do their essential jobs without interaction and those that won't because they are ****wits. It's anticipated
Let's also stop thinking that this whole lockdown has anything to do with stopping us all getting it - the vast majority of us are going to get it long before a vaccine is invented and rolled out. This is purely about us getting it at a manageable rate. The ****wits will just be getting is on average sooner. The irony is if they do and survive and have the antibody in their system they will be back to work before the curtain twitchers.
Easily- is that the Peak Forest canal near New Mills by any chance? Noticed that the other day. Utter dingbats.
Our neighbours are a bit annoying. One side keep walking past moaning about our hedge. The other side, stand outside their house clapping for ages on a Thursday evening. Then they keep giving my wife wine and chocolates, for all her ‘good work’!
Let’s also stop thinking that this whole lockdown has anything to do with stopping us all getting it – the vast majority of us are going to get it long before a vaccine is invented and rolled out. This is purely about us getting it at a manageable rate. The * will just be getting is on average sooner. The irony is if they do and survive and have the antibody in their system they will be back to work before the curtain twitchers.
I can see the logic. The * and their friends and family can be part of the 50-60% of the population needed for herd immunity. On the golf course tonight there was a dozen yoofs in a group drinking. The only thing that bothered me was they set of a couple of fireworks but not close enough to frighten my dogs. Didn't feel the need to phone 111. I'd rather yoofs were yoofs well away from anyone's houses than get moved on and end up closer to home.
Im isolating and minding my own business thanks. Generally our neighbours are following the law and guidelines as far as I can tell (though minding my own business means the curtains aren't twitching at Casa Sandwich).
If they endanger my health I will probably ask the constabulary to intervene.
For the most part it seems to be well observed around here. (New build estate, lots of families, first time buyers). Mix of affordable & private housing. Some of the max power types still coming & going a lot. Family 2 doors away had friends round last night, the kids (all very young) seemed to be enjoying themselves.
Astonishing number of people out running every day. Families walking with young children. Plenty of support via the ubiquitous Facebook group too.
I’m under no illusions though, that we are lucky.
I live in a tower block in inner city Manchester, views across the whole neighbourhood. Wouldn't say it's a rough neighbourhood but 'tuff' certainly. Don't need to curtain twitch as you don't need curtains when you're 7 floors up and spending a lot of time on the balcony during lock down, the view is second only to a police helicopter.
Nothing to report. Been really surprised how well everyone's adhering to social distancing. Haven't seen any dickheadery to be honest. Was expecting to see a few parties / gatherings as usually the bouncy castles, marquees and (excellent) sound systems come out as soon as the sun does.
Loads of kids on bikes but in ones, twos or threes at most, Only annoying thing is how good they are at pulling wheelies! Pulling one seems to be a right of passage in these parts.
The runners on the canal though now the gyms are shut, there's not a lot of space so no need to run in pairs or small groups.
I do feel sorry for the yungun's though, 3 months must feel like 3 years at that age so all credit to them.
My guess is that if some medical professionals are not following the guidelines, knowing the risks involved, they would be confident their guests are also virus free.
So please read @convert post again. It’s about managing the spread and influx into the healthcare system.
You may of course briefly stamp your feet and shout ‘it’s not fair!’. No, it isn’t.
But it does help the divide and conquer approach to governing society and along with biometric tags and smartphone tracking, the curtain twitchers will be an invaluable back up.
I think you need to be sensible about what you call in. If the police get called out to every individual rule breaker, they are going to be overwhelmed with chasing single offender cases. I think the police have suggested anyway that they are most interested in bigger gatherings which pose the greatest risk.
Some people are being knobs.
Make sure you are not one of them.
Stay safe and have a bit of compassion
I can proudly say that while I’ve seen some “non lockdown” behaviour, I would absolutely never, ever report anything.
Look how keen some people are to support the removal of civil liberties of their neighbours for petty reasons.
Any alarm bells ringing?
They’ve put little signs up near ‘their’ part of the canal, saying that people should keep away and not use the canal path, that it’s unfair to them, and that there are ‘vulnerable people’ living there. They’ve not obstructed the path, but have placed things right next to it that make it awkward to go along.
Fair enough. I disagree, but they can make the request.
No, it really isn’t ’fair enough’! The towpath is a public r.o.w, and they can no more control who walks or cycles past than someone living in a terraced house can! The Canal & Rivers Trust could, in all likelihood, order them to move on, in fact that’s become a major issue for people living in narrow boats with kids and their schooling, so that lot are pushing their luck.
Jesus Christ I'd never ring the police on my neighbour for not isolating!
We have neighbours on one side who clearly DNGAF - it's been a procession of tennis playing buddies, their various kids and grandkids all visiting over the last week or so. The irony being she's in her 1970's and a heavy smoker so you'd have thought she'd be a bit more careful.
On the other-side, two doors up, they've still got their nanny coming in during the week because apparently two adults are incapable of looking after two young lads + working from home at the same time. Not to mention their various relatives, friends etc all dropping in.
We've also had the pleasure of watching another family all gather on the playing field opposite to play football and practice their golf (!).
..and don't get me started on the state of the village where everyone seems to think that this is one big waste of time. The poor fishmonger yesterday was getting grief because he would only sell some idiot two portions of monkfish tail, and four portions of salmon - apparently this wasn't enough for his gathering in the pm and the prat was insistent that he should be able to buy a entire side of salmon and a whole monkfish tail...
To be fair - I've had to explain to my in-laws that when they come to collect the shopping we've done for them, they CAN'T come in for a chat and a catchup. The entire purpose of my doing it is to save them from exposure to shopping etc. I'm going out weekly to get essentials - fruit and veg, butchers etc - and buy enough for us and them. It then gets boxed up and left on the driveway. But they still need reminding...
This makes me wonder what some of our neighbours think of us. No gatherings or visitors but I’m still going to work and OH is out twice every day to look after her horse. So they will see the cars coming and going each day as normal.
Look how keen some people are to support the removal of civil liberties of their neighbours for petty reasons.
Any alarm bells ringing?
Yeah, it reminds of a tv series from 10-15 years ago (Nazis: a warning for history). In particular an episode about the gestapo. Turns out they were getting so much ‘intel’ on people they couldn’t keep up. Everybody was dobbing in everybody else it seems...
You can see how quickly people can fall into line in a dictatorship, people are pleading for more busybody interference
Look how keen some people are to support the removal of civil liberties of their neighbours for petty reasons
I dont think 1000 deaths a day is petty tbh.
No, I put it badly, I meant petty infringements. Cheers
I'd not be reporting individual stupidity, but persistent regular breaches of the rules that put the wider community at greater risk, yes, I might.
In the same way I don't report my neighbour for smoking weed, but I reported the bastard who was dealing from his van in our Scout hut car park one evening.
It's not about supporting a dictatorial regime, it's about protecting the wider, potentially more vulnerable members of society.
Loss of perspective seems to be a side effect of the virus, and I'm probably just as guilty sometimes
metalheart
Yeah, it reminds of a tv series from 10-15 years ago (Nazis: a warning for history). In particular an episode about the gestapo. Turns out they were getting so much ‘intel’ on people they couldn’t keep up. Everybody was dobbing in everybody else it seems…
It's sad. Nothing has been learned.
I am struck in all of this by how much detail some people know about the minutiae of their neighbour's lives. Details of their extended families and where they live, what they do for a living, what time they leave the house and how long they are gone for. When they go to the shops, whether they smoke, what kind of clothes they wear, their drinking habits etc.
If this knowledge is gained by being neighbourly and chatting over the fence in happier times then fine. If you know all this and never speak to them then to be honest, it's a bit sad and creepy.
I think the curtain twitching and readiness to dob people in worries me more than people not observing the lockdown. It certainly depresses me more.
I dont think 1000 deaths a day is petty tbh.
Your neighbors must have a pretty big patio.
he irony being she’s in her 1970’s and a heavy smoker
I guess if I'd managed to live for almost 2000 years, I'd be pretty confident of surviving a pesky virus as well. Does the heavy smoking only happen in direct sunlight? Is garlic easy to buy locally? I'd be wary of inviting her in fwiw.
More than 1000 people died every day last year.
I am being a very good boy re social distancing. Grassing on neighbours for having family around is not something I'd contemplate. *I do have nice neighbours though.
More than 1000 people died every day last year.
OK you crack on then.
no, and i never would either.
had zero issues with our neighbours. my borther who lives about 100m away waltzed into the garden the other day out like he would normally, my mrs wasted no time in kicking him out in case the neighbours heard him!!
However she did also show me a video of some friends on facebook who were having a right old knees up in their parents garden over the weekend, all family, but certainly dont all live together! lots of fun & frivolity, one of em was having his his head shaved... its weird seeing people you know and like acting like such dickheads; but could never grass on em.
On my local FB gossip shop page recently to quote, "Hoards of vile spitting cyclists everywhere."
Might be an idea to check you are out of site of anyone when you need to empty the contents of your mouth!
More than 1000 people died every day last year.
The people dieing due to coronavirus are as well as not instead of.
That sounded crass. these are actual real people you are hearing about with friends and families. It is real not a TV program/ film
Find this thread profoundly depressing.
It's like some horror film.
The glee and joy with which people are informing on neighbours to the police.
For the crime of using their garden.
It has very little to do with preventing the spread of a virus.
It's a celebration, an outpouring, of a particular brand of British toxicity.
It's an irate hatred of everything that isn't you or your family.
It's the product of an atomised society that's dominated by a right-wing media.
+1 Copa. Well said.
Steady on comrade, why don't you re-read the thread and you might notice that most people aren't calling the po-po?
Might be an idea to check you are out of site of anyone when you need to empty the contents of your mouth!
Again, just like regularly washing hands and using gloves at petrol station, completely normal behaviour before all this kicked off... people are gross
