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I suspect the UK has bigger problems facing it over the next 30 years.
Such as? Or is the photo of 20 or so protestors significant to your point?
Lifer - MemberSuch as?
The problem with people like you Lifer, is that you would rather bury your heads is the sand.
I like to think we are all victims of state induced paranoia.
It used to be communists we were scared of now its religious nutters.
That way I can sleep at night.
The young lad looking bewildered on the RHS in the orange carhatt top.
" I'm in Love with Abu Hamza"
Is what his banner reads , thats why he looks a little, umm ...embarresed. Wonder who put him up to standing there with it.
i'm hungry. time for a bacon butty.
zippykona - MemberI like to think we are all victims of state induced paranoia.
And you can thank Leo Strauss for that. That unsung hero/daddy of the neoconservative philosophy which has now come to dominate, understood the importance of controlling people through fear.
As far as I can tell he'll be tried and if found guilty will go to prison. The prisons aren't as soft as ours but hell get health care, meals, water and somewhere warm and dry to sleep.
In traditional STW fashion, I haven't read all of the thread but I'll post anyway... if he isn't found guilty of any crime in the good ol' US of A then what happens next? I believe he came to GB some years ago on a Student Visa but is he elligible and free to return here un-inhibited if not retained in the USA?
Might cause a bit of consternation 😯
I've just cancelled my Direct Debit to Liberty after discovering they supported him in his bid to remain here.
I'm sorry to hear that, I'm pretty sure Liberty continue to do a lot more than try and ensure unlikeable eejits enjoy due process.
" I'm in Love with Abu Hamza"
Not if he fondles you with that hook you wont be
International reputation? Are you guys forgetting the EU seemed to want hum extradited as well? The rest of the world doesn't matter as barely any of them have democracies or non-heavily corrupt democracies.
Who's going to think we suck US cock, Russia, China, ****stan, Iran, Ecquador, Cuba....oh ****ing noes!.....like they have good human rights track records....
I wonder, can I appeal to the EU Human Rights court to win the right to watch my kid on his sports day, because currently, I'm banned from doing so.
I support the fact we got rid of this criminal, but not that it took so long and so much tax payers money to do so.
This country is very lost, it needs to start treating criminals like criminals and hard working mums and dads like proper human beings. I despair at what we have become in the UK.
!.....like they have good human rights track records....
You don't have to go too far back to discover we (Britain) doesn't either.
One thing puzzles me how are the yanks going to shackle him seeing as he only has one hand Big magnet for the hook atached to the waist chain ❓ 😈
Kryton57 - Member
I wonder, can I appeal to the EU Human Rights court to win the right to watch my kid on his sports day, because currently, I'm banned from doing so.I support the fact we got rid of this criminal, but not that it took so long and so much tax payers money to do so.
This country is very lost, it needs to start treating criminals like criminals and hard working mums and dads like proper human beings. I despair at what we have become in the UK.
Completely spurious link, good work.
Due process (including appeals) is available to everyone, no matter how unsavoury they may be. I think that is something to be proud of.
All the other European governments were incredulous that we were allowing these Jihadist nut jobs into Londonistan (a title coined by the French government) in the first place! They were being pointedly refused entry to everywhere else in Europe!
And look where it's got us!
Due process (including appeals) is available to everyone, no matter how unsavoury they may be. I think that is something to be proud of.
In one sense I agree. In keeping someone like him housed, fed etc for many years at the expense of the taxpayer - no.
Why not use the French system - send him back to his country of origin, then if proven innocent versus our own country, at that point invite him back?
Bacon roll and chilled Carlsberg ready to go.
Abu Hamza was born in Egypt then came to London on a student visa. He then married a Brit and gained citizenship. The marriage lasted a "convenient" 2 years. The Egyptians revoked his citizenship and we tried to do the same but the ECHR stopped us as we would make him stateless. He and his legal team have milked our free and fair legal system for every penny and were probably laughing their arses off whilst doing it.
Human rights are for the kind of humans that respect others rights.
Binners: thought "Londonistan" was something made up by that awful Melanie Phillips?
Sort of agree that it's good that we have due process open to all. It shouldn't have taken as long as it did and I will be having an obligatory beer & bacon sarnie shortly.
invite him back , you are having a laff ,
Actually, if he's cleared of wrongdoing by the US then he's not a criminal (and this is about criminality, not because we don't like him). As such I doubt there is anything we could do to stop him coming back, and as much as I personally despise the chap; it's quite right. If its determined that he not broken any laws, then he does have the entitlement to be with his family. I'd like to see him done for inciting violence, racially aggravated intentional harassment, and anything else they could possibly do him for. Or he could just wind his neck and keep his hole shut. His choice.
Dear Leader thinks he should be ... hhmmm ... [fill in the blank] ... 😈
I hope they remember to give him a decent breakfast
Bacon eggs sausages and black pudding.
Should've arrived by now and had. His first "cold" shower.
The blokes a C U next Tuesday!
Tried it on right to the last, I mean how does an MRI scan fit in with the beliefs?
Tat Wink - Member
Tried it on right to the last, I mean how does an MRI scan fit in with the beliefs?
Wow. Is there something in the Koran about magnets then?
Is there something in the Koran about magnets then?
Haven't you noticed how few doctors are Muslims ?
Might have been said earlier but why would a man who describes the UK as a toilet be so desperate to stay here I wonder??
Looks like the Americans are starting as they mean to go on as they have confiscated his hook 😉



