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I am in for the jam, I had a go at it back when you originally posted it then got busy and forgot about it.
Will have another go 🙂
First time I’ve tried one and I like the sound it makes.
BUT check the Andertons video from last Wednesday to see how similar they all sounded.
Funnily enough I don’t sound exactly like SRV after buying that 🙁 Not complaining about the £20 spend though. Personally I’m happier with the equally low budget MojoMojo from TC.
Cool, thanks for that. I want something to put in front of my Bandit 112 to get a nice bitey sound from it.
@Eadukator This maybe the Strat for you...
Sorry Eddie that one doesn't do it for me, it might be the amp but I like P90s to sound creamy thick (Like Bertignac from Téléphone) and that one sounds metalic.
This vid is all Simon's fault, I learnt the intro when he posted it and recently thought I'd have a go at the rest. The intro is a bit rushed because I'm already trying to think of the worms. Jagger belts it out with Keefs guitar in standard E. I tried a baritone but couldn't get low enough and compromised on E flat. Harley Benton's cheapest Tele but with a Wilkinson bridge pick up and Crel 666 neck, middle position treble fully up, Marshal JCM 2000 clean channel with nothing added or taken away.
Perhaps someone can tell me if they can watch the vid, it wouldn't run embedded but works for me in another window, which may be because I'm logged in on my Youtbe account.
All good here Edukator.
Ta.
I've listened to "The best strat I've played vid again, Eddie, it's growing on me especially the bridge pickup. This is an example of what my ears think is a nice P900 lead sound:
This vid is all Simon’s fault,
You're welcome 🙂
Well down to Weymouth tonight and tomorrow a bit of practice playing with the lads to see how well I've got Pride and Joy sorted and see if we'll play it on Saturday or Sunday evening.
Just taking the Tele and this MiniBoard down with the Belle Epoch Deluxe in place of the Specular Tempus. The looper is only for fun/practise.
Just the 3 pedals into a borrowed Hot Rod Deluxe. More than enough.
I'll be integrating some of the parts of the jam track tomorrow evening if any of you fancied submitting something. PM me if you have a submission.
Here's a version without bass if folk wanted to do an alternative bassline?
As a reminder, one loop is between the end of successive cowbell count ins, so it's about 27s worth. Feel free to submit multiple loops if you like, I can whack them all in together. Equally it's fine to have notes ringing out over the end of the loop etc.

First band practice for about 6 weeks. So fun to be back in the shed and playing. New Jag sounded pretty good.
Also totally loving the sound lad Liverpool hungry beaver fuzz, really clever and adjustable muff kinda thing
https://www.soundladliverpool.co.uk/hungrybeaver
If anyone's interested, my band's new EP is now available on Bandcamp.
You can have a listen for free (and purchase if you wish 😉)
https://thesupermercados.bandcamp.com/
I'll be diving into that later. Thanks for the heads up.
Tonight is defnitely music night as I bought my first fuzz pedal for 30 years.
After the success of the Behringer Tube Scream clone I bought the Behringer Super Fuzz yesterday.
Again £19.99. Feels (and is) cheap but sounds great.
Check out Josh Scott's video on the range.
I badly rolled my ankle playing handball last week, so can barely walk. I'm stuck in, so doing music stuff. Might well work on "the jam", but will probably be on Ninjam later this evening. Anyone fancy trying it from here (online jamming)?
My guitar teacher appears to be doing a good job of undoing all of the poor techniques that I've developed over the 30+ years I've owned a guitar. I think it helps that I'm actually keen to learn and improve, even if it means going back to basics. It makes a change from him teaching kids who have been forced to go by their parents and don't do any practice between lessons 🤣
Booked an hour in the local rehearsal room so I could turn up my amps
Amazing to have some time blasting away with 2 amps and a delay to connect it all together
Took the new jazzmaster for its debut, a lot more versatile that I'd ever thought
I should do this more often
That sounds good fun.
I spent most of yesterday actually playing rather than dicking around with effects.
Just the Tele, a tuner and my Yamaha THR10ii.
I really am going to get rid of the unused toys. It is embarassing.
If I only had that amount of superfluous items I'd be happy
Stuff on Reverb at the moment
Yup. And you've got your Helix and I have a Kemper so it's worse then it may appear at first.
Started a wee project to keep my occupied as the nights draw in!
Bought one of Harley Benton's kit guitars to have a go at
https://www.thomann.de/gb/harley_benton_eguitar_kit_sgstyle.htm
Reasonably decent out the box. Did a quick check for component fit




The body wasn't too bad out of the box. It came already pore filled according to the instructions but there were some tooling marks and a few rough spots so I have it another going over with some sandpaper and my own application of pore filler


First up was a couple of coats of sanding sealer, then onto the colour. Went for some TV Yellow nitro lacquer from Northwest Guitars. Doing the body and neck in colour



Applied 3 coats of colour then had to sort a few spots where it had ran with some 600 grit wet and dry

After that it was 9 coats of clear nitro lacquer on the body and neck
Removed the masking tape from the neck and applied some Monty's Relic Wax which I use on any fingerboard that will take it. Adds a nice dark tone to the non rosewood fingerboards

Annoyingly when I took the masking tape off the neck it lifted some of the paint slightly plus I also discovered that the heel off the neck doesnt go completely into the body so I've missed a bit that I'll need to go back and fill in this weekend and it'll take care of the lifted paint. I wont bother taping this off, I'll just blend it in and make sure not to cover the entire heel with paint

Bolted the neck on and I've brought the guitar inside to let the nitro cure which should take 2 weeks, then it'll be a polish up with some 800+ grit paper to bring out the shine. I'll touch the missed part up on the neck over the weekend too.


Overall the paint job has came out fantastically well for an aerosol can job. The very minor colour runs were easily sorted with some light sanding and the lacquer has gone on perfectly.
For the painting, I watched and followed this brilliant tutorial from Stew Mac and the guys from Driftwood Guitars
Nice. I really wanted to order one of these kits and do a wild paint job on it. It'll be a P or J bass for me though.
I've watched all the videos, they seem fine as long as you get a decent one. I gather the QC isn't the best in the world but if you know what to look for you'll end up with a perfectly playable instrument.
Was there a split in the neck at the body end? If so, did it make any difference, or need any work?
Looks good so far, btw. I've been tempted to get one.
Was there a split in the neck at the body end?
No split and the neck fits perfectly in the pocket. Screw holes all lined up with no issues
Very nice BBob! Envious of your enthusiasm.
Message me your address and I'll send
You the 3 a side tuners I removed from my JTV59 when I got it (I prefer locking tuners) they are sane as the PRS SE tuners and probably are better than the ones in the kit - no guarantee though but I'm not using them and it's a shame to see them sat there.
Was there a split in the neck at the body end?
No split and the neck fits perfectly in the pocket. Screw holes all lined up with no issues
I see now that I've looked more closely - you put a difference piece of wood instead of the neck while spraying the body?
Ah yes, that's not the neck, just a bit of scrap wood for spraying purposes
Ah yes, that’s not the neck, just a bit of scrap wood for spraying purposes
That's the problem with me wearing contact lenses when working at my PC... 😀
Well as usual I've bought another toy. I'd never heard of before yesterday, ordered via Amazon and it arrived today. Unusually it was cheap (£18) and is musically useful.
It is the pitch key.
Instant swap between standard and Drop D tuning in my case and it works after next to no time tweaking it.
We are trying a few more alt rock songs and it is epic and means no standing there looking like a lemon retuning or using the Variax.
Very happy, just sad I can't use it on the baritone as that has a .68 bass string and I love swapping between B and Drop A but it won't work. Grrrr!
A few moons back, epiphone released an official, numbered Iommi SG. Black, with Gibson pickups. The neck had a pretty extreme taper.
This looks like the one from Black Sabbath’s vol 4:
Recently bought the UA Ruby and Dream pedal
Both very nice but a slight preference for the ruby
Bonus points for connecting both at the same time and using Danish Pete funk presets on both amps. Now thats a sound
That SG looks killer. I do like a bit of drop tuning.
Also impressed with the UA pedals but I'm sticking with Origin stuff into my BOSS GT1000 Core.
I've been selling and buying on Reverb and had a few bargains lately. A Belle Epoch Deluxe, Catalinbread Echorec and my Origin Revival Trem all were less than the average selling price, so if I get bored I should only really lose the cost of posting it on.
Although I love the miniboard I built for 'gigs', I reassembled the 'big' board for dicking around at home.
Mainly I've just been learning songs though. Far more useful than working on ultimate tone, fun though that is.
That there miniboard referenced above.
Stacked compressor at the front of the GT1000 CORE, two drives/amps in a box un the loops of the GT1000 and a footswitch for patches to free up 2 buttons on the front of the multiFX.
Nice one EB
I'd like to try that
Amazing the power yo can get into a small board at the moment
Yup. It's fun and fits in its tiny shoulderbag. That and a guitar and I'm sorted, just plug into pretty much any amp/PA/computer option. All I occasionally do is swap out the Revival Drive for another pedal.
Being honest I'd have no trouble just using the BOSS on its own. It works really well.
Progress on the Harley Benton kit!
Nitro is cured so spent this afternoon with lots of fine sand paper. Didn't go for a super smooth finish as I'm happy for it to look a bit aged and I'm well pleased with how the paint job went. Then I started bolting it all together and wiring everything up. Everything fitted perfectly. Holes all perfectly drilled etc and the wiring is plug and play rather than needing soldered. It came with a set of strings so I fired them on to do the initial checks. Plugged it in for a quick check to make sure it works. I haven't even bothered with intonation or action yet and I've been blown away with how good it feels, plays and sounds. If the off the shelf Harley Bentons are as good as this then they are real bargains.
I'll let things settle for a few days then do a final setup and share some sounds




That really looks nice. Love the mustard colour.
Had a great morning. Post ride I put a new wiring loom in my Tele, one of the 5 way looms from Monty's.
The two extra sounds are brilliant but the whole thing sounds clearer and simply more present than it did before. All pretty silent to in the two pickup positions.
Been playing for a few hours today. I'll post some sounds later.
Excellent 🙂
So Harley Benton CST 24 P90....
Anyone got a view...
Picked up a Martin North Street Edition D-28 Herringbone over the weekend
Its very nice
Only concern is mail order? Like to pick stuff up and at least try it
Harley Benton do seem to be getting a much better rep for consistency in their guitars. The recent buyers on here haven't come vackveoth any horror stories and if you do have a problem Thomann do seem pretty good on replacements.
I've got a Harley Benton CST 24 P90, in black.
It's a stunner. However, I had to do a bit of work to get it to this point. Some work necessary, some not so much. When I got it the nut was cut a bit high, the pickups were a bit noisy (50Hz hum) and the trem wasn't usable as it kept going out of tune after it was used.
The changes I've made: A pair of noiseless P90s (Kent Armstrong, beauts, a bit pricey but I didn't want to have to play in the middle position all the time). Locking tuners and a graphite nut. The neck is perfect, the action is spot on and the trem is completely stable. I've spent more on the mods than I paid for the it so instead of a £200 guitar I've got a £450 one, which is set up perfectly.

However, I don't play it quite as much as the Tele I made from scratch from 3 planks of alder and maple which is why it's in the background in this picture.
Thats nice currently building a partscaster that started with a Jim Root body.
Now then guitarists. I've a growing collection of pedals (partially thanks to @eddiebaby) and it's getting a bit of a faff connecting them all up and tearing them all down each time I want to play.
So the obvious solution is a pedal board...
Any steer on what's good and what's not?
Chipps loaned me a massive pedal board and pedals but I decided I needed something smaller so picked up a 2nd hand pedaltrain board and put a few of the pedals from the big board onto it 🙂

It's powered by a TGI powerbox mini which I've stuck to the underside with some velcro.
When the big pedalboard goes back to it's rightful owner I will need to repopulate the board but this has given me a good idea of what sort of pedals I'll make most use of 🙂
@oldmanmtb2
I had a cst. It was great after I changed the pickups, put new strings on and leveled the frets. It was totallu fine before I did all that, but it was very nice after that.
@tomparkin
I have a pedal train mini board and a massive harley Benton board. They are both fine. The pedal train bag feels alot more protective.
Gah! Typed a big reply and got the ol' 'Bad Gateway' curse! Must feed the hamsters more...
Anyway, I'm sure you'll miss those pedals when they're gone, @simondbarnes - I know I do 🙂 That whole bottom row is probably all you'd ever need... Don't be buying any new pedals, though, as I probably have a similar bunch of pedals in a shoe box here...
Incidentally, if you have a Pedaltrain, I can recommend getting the Pedaltrain App. It has outlines of all of the boards, along with 'place and rotate' images to scale of just about every pedal out there. Really fun, just trying to build dream pedalboards (and seeing if they'll fit in the space you have...)
Good to see this thread always popping up...
Two votes for pedaltrain then! Thanks folks 👍
Edit: maybe three votes if I count @chipps app recommendation as a tacit endorsement 😂
Hi Tom. I have a Rockboard Duo2.1 and bag for sale. I put the velcro on but it's unused other than as a pedal store. The small Thomann power supplies fit underneath and I fit this much on there. (This is the one I do use)
@tomparkin - I think I have about four Pedaltrain boards if that helps 🙂
The Harley Benton/Thomann own brand one isn't bad, especially if you get one of it's compact power supplies that fits underneath too.
I'd also suggest getting proper 'Velcro' brand, heavy duty velcro as it sticks (to pedals and then to the other velcro side) very well. If you read the forums, you'll be tempted by 3M Dual Lock, which is awesome, but you seriously only need 1cm2 per pedal corner... it's bonkers strong. I had to get some car trim removers (basically they're plastic prybars) to get my pedals off after I'd overindulged...
Good call on the Thomann PSUs.
I have a 5 out and 10 out both have multiple voltages, useful as I have 3 pedals on the big board that need 18v to be at their best.
And the secret with 3m double lock is to only use it on the pedals and have the usual velcro on the board.
I find the Donner pedal board tape from Amazonbto be fine.
Ah gad, I have started watching YouTube videos with titles like "Five Myths About Pedal Boards", and am steadily upselling myself on the importance, nay, utter imperative necessity, of things like high-quality low-profile right-angled jack connectors at £5 a pop...
Keep off youtube, otherwise you end up with stuff like this. And I still have another 9 pedals and a looper. Plus the Kemper Stage.
At home I'm often just noodling though a few ripped off the bigger board or the spares shelf stuck on a bit of plastic trailer lighting board and running into the THR10ii.
And then you'll need a second pedalboard to hold your 'spare' pedals, that ends up being a whole 'nother pedalboard to find enough cables for... It's a slippery slope. I currently have four shoe boxes of pedals that I'm not even using right now. That's in addition to two 'active' pedalboards and one that Simon Barnes has of mine...
Hey, it's cheaper than speedboad racing, I guess... 🙂
Right.
I've been thinking about this overnight and had a moment of sanity.
I'm going to keep the 9 pedals that really do sound different and work with the Kemper and the rest are going along with a pedalboard the GT1000 and few guitars.
I'm keeping the Tele and probably the Strat (Although I love the Baritone.) but two guitars and the bass are going.
Loving this thread but just lurking as very much a novice. Interested in how you all became good players. Did you take one to one lessons? Youtube? Apps? mix of any?
I have been learning for quite some months and loving it but aware I am not making great progress.. I am getting on a bit but I dont have any real aspirations other than to be able to confidently play some easier tunes etc. I love Jazz and Funk but I think even the easier stuff looks beyond me. Anyway what where your learning routes and what do you recommend??
Thanks
Bit like Eddiebaby - let a modeller do most of the work and add in a few pedals which complement it.
And then keep adding and realise you have more pedals which defeated the object of buying a modeller and then start selling again!
I think I have this cracked now…


I so nearly bought a Helix LT just because it would work so well with my Variax. Line6 make some great gear.
Interested in how you all became good players. Did you take one to one lessons? Youtube? Apps? mix of any?
Started playing in 1990. No lessons. My dad played but I didn't learn from him. Obviously well before the days of apps or youtube.
My lessons were sitting with vinyl records, learning to play bits, lifting the needle and replaying a section again until I got it right. I had an ancient book of chord shapes that I used.
Very rarely, I'd buy a book of sheet music from the local music shop.
A different era entirely. Anyone picking up a guitar for the first time nowadays is so massively spoiled with resource.
I don't really improve unless I play with others.
Should take music lessons (rather than guitar technique lessons) but I've left it a bit late.
Interested in how you all became good players. Did you take one to one lessons? Youtube? Apps? mix of any?
Im not a good player, very average indeed but id suggest finding very simple songs you like and learning to play them well (you tube / ultimate guitar etc) and then slowly (and i mean slowly) adding in slightly more complex stuff just to stretch yourself.
I have a number of mates i who bought their first guitar and then picked up the stone roses songbook, only to get nowhere and quit. The key for me is playing along with others or the actual record and simply enjoying it. keep it simple.
Interested in how you all became good players. Did you take one to one lessons? Youtube? Apps? mix of any?
I was given a guitar when I was 11-12, over 40 years ago. Not sure whether I asked for one or not, but I learned the most basic chords and got a better guitar when I was 18. I always had one around to play but was terrible, only having learned from some basic tutorial books and not having a particularly musical brain. I pretty much stopped playing when my first daughter was born - she's 19 now - probably just losing interest because of lack of time and energy. I actually lost the guitar for a few years, packed behind something else in a back room.
Then, early in first lockdown I decided that I needed to learn how to play blues competently and ordered a new guitar. (Immediately finding the old one!) The amount of stuff available on the net these days is mind blowing. It's also amazing how much I remembered from before my break, once I got over the rustiness.
I tend to sit in the intermediate levels when I look at tutorials. I'm pleased that these days I can look at a tab and work out how to play most songs in some way and can sound reasonably good at fingerpicking. But I am a two trick pony - basic strumming or decent fingerpicking. I am learning constantly, and every so often will please myself by incorporating a new technique. I find new stuff on the net, books, mags, anywhere, and play every day for anything from a few minutes to a couple of hours. This last is perhaps the biggest change - lots of noodling around, even if I'm not learning something. I have never owned an electric guitar and this needs to be my midlife crisis. 😀
TLDR : I'd barely describe myself as a guitarist, just a guitar owner. 😀
Two things have helped my improvement in playing guitar. One is finding a pub which holds a weekly session of people sitting around with acoustic guitars and taking it in turns to play and sing a song while the others all strum along. There are 3 or 4 places nearby which each have a slightly different feel. One is welcoming and non-judgmental (which is both good and bad), one has high standards and you get up to do 2 numbers to an audience. It doesn't half sharpen you up!
The other thing is getting lessons from a professional. If you choose the right one where you can work on the things you want to, but at the same time be guided into areas where you need improvement that's great. And you have a strong incentive to practice well for the next lesson. That works much better for me than Justin Guitar and other online resources but I like to dip into those too, especially Paul Davids and (although my tolerance of his manic style is limited) Dave Simpson.
Thanks for all the advice. Some things for me to explore 👍
Bought the most expensive guitar I could at 19
Had a job at sellafield for 1 year with literally nothing else to do
Waited for top of the pops every Thursday and stole a technique every week and played that new thing all week, much of this I still use today
After 2 years of ‘using my ear’ to play along to records I found a teacher that I liked
I learned theory not songs and worked really hard understanding the theory
Bought a rudimentary sequencer and plugged in a blues progression, within 3 months I’d learned all the blues cliche licks, by practice and error, never looked at a book and way before computers were a common home product. I was however using full major scales not blues or pentatonics
Carried on playing along to songs but now with theory.
There are many things that can improve where you currently are but for me it’s fundamental time on the instrument
For the first 2 or 3 years I never tuned my guitar nor did I know how to, I didn’t know any chords but I did know that if I could get my hands moving then that stuff would bolt on easily, which it did
So, for the longest time I’ve been able to learn any song in 20 mins, convincingly solo in the key of that song and then completely forget it until the time I need to play it again
A great piece of advice I was given was play in front of a mirror on the basis that it stops you looking down at your hands. And if you can see your self in awkward positions you will know straight away and not get into quite so many bad habits
In short
Time
Get your fingers moving
Theory
Some advice if I may please? We were looking at getting Jnr (13 and progressing nicely) a Yamaha Pacifica for Xmas. However my wife spotted a (Fender) Squier Affinity Strat bundle on offer direct from Fender.
Is this ok for the money, to ensure it’s not a wasted dream and perhaps he can upgrade at a later birthday? It’s for practise, lessons and jamming to a rock / blues back catalogue.
https://www.fender.com/en-GB/special-offers/affinity-series-stratocaster-hss-pack/0372821469.html
The Fender Squier package would be very nice for someone that isn’t going to let it just gather dust.
Thoroughbred kit at a decent price.
Yamaha Pacifica every time
The nicer the guitar the more chance you have of surviving the 'oh this is hard work' bit
'Thoroughbred kit at a decent price' not at all
I bought an Affinity Strat a few years ago as it was cheap and I wanted to mess around with pickups and wiring on it. Turned out to be a fantastic guitar out of the box.
Mike Rutherford of that Genesis has got into Squier Strats too... https://www.guitarplayer.com/players/high-flying-mike-rutherford-loves-rock-bottom-squier-bullet-stratocasters
I bought and modded a Squire Bullet Mustang a few months ago, very good base guitar.
I was impressed tbh. Frets, neck, body, pickups all excellent.
Hardware was a little cheap, but definitely playable as is.
I've learned some 7th chords so am trying to put them to use in a song. This one sounded easy enough but is proving tricky!
https://youtube.com/shorts/X1iqVnO-WBU?feature=share
The lessons are paying off Simon.
Thanks for the feedback ^^, appreciated.
Cheers Eddie
@Kryton57 - make sure it's one he actually wants. The best guitar in the world will be no good if it's the wrong colour / shape.
I hope this link is helpful to some if not all. There's a whole bunch of jam tracks on Youtube but I really like this guy's format where he puts up all of the scale positions for the track across the whole neck ( after about 1:30 in this one). Great for switching between the scales and discovering the different modal tones. I find it really helpful even after 40 years of playing. Enjoy jamming folks......
