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Hi Tagnut, there are lots of resources but it depends on where your starting point is
this video is pretty good and there are other beato videos (I've never read his book so can't advise definitively)
if you have further questions, post them on here and I'll help 🙂
I've been playing 12 months and think that learning the theory is best learnt as you progress otherwise it's information overload. Learning the neck becomes much easier as you build your chord vocabulary, I've found Barre chords relatively easy to get a grasp of going down the mainly classical route.
I got together with a drummer and bass player when lockdown eased and was surprised how basic most rock/pop stuff is.
Yes I let my Strat come out to play and I didn't stress about tone or my lack of pedals or whether my teeny amp cut the mustard either. 🤣
After mentioning it a week or so back I was wondering about starting a new thread for 2021 but thought nope. Anyone else wants to then fine. Was maybe thing about a technique or theory thread and then remembered this is a bike forum.
My aim for 2021 is to try to post a piece once a week. The Paul David “10 solos, one backing track” video got me trying to think more about what I’m trying to play. So time to pony up.
I recorded (remotely) this Sam Fender track with my sister in law. I found the intro note surprisingly hard to get consistent and on the beat. She did the female vocal. I did everything else, but drew in the drums in Ableton cos I'm rubbish. Female vocals recorded on an iPhone, which came out better than expected
Guitars in the "video" are my green PRS SE Zach Myers, my son's PRS SE 245 and my ibanez SR305.
Jesus! That is awesome. Ableton let you down by being the weak loop in the chain. Really good from both of you and your sister in law has a voice.
Very envious.
😳 Gives up on idea of posting music in future...
Good work @AdamT good to have someone you can call on to deliver vocals like that 🙂
@bazzer, totally agree, it's great. My brother has been shielding and lives in a different region etc. We used to get together often for a jam . This is a poor substitute for that, but fun all the same. Really feel bad for musicians and venues though this pandemic.
@AdamT I sent some stuff to a mate of mine to do some vocals for me on a song I wrote. It does work, but its not the same as being in the same room for me.
And people never send it back the way I want it 🙂 Yes it sounds better with reverb on it, but I want it dry so I can process it myself 🙂
I'll get junior to listen to that Adam.
Is anyone into guitar fettling to the extent of fretwork
I'm still on the refret on that old Sigma martin, I've accumulated tools over the years mainly from Thomann and the local DIY store. This is the first full refret I've done and has been a lesson in fret tang sizing. The Dunlop 6120 fit perfectly. They're properly jumbo frets and getting an even curve not easy. The more time spent on the frets before fitting the less time spent dressing is what I've learned from the partial refret I did. I'm currently debating whether to fit the frets beyond comfortable reach. I never use any beyond 17 on a guitar without a cutaway and the frets don't have an influence on neck relief beyond the neck joint so why fit them?
I’m currently debating whether to fit the frets beyond comfortable reach.
Maybe just fill the empty slots with a lighter wood veneer to give the visuals of frets?
Just found this fun little guide to Hendix’s chordal playing. Filled a few hours over the weekend...
https://www.musicradar.com/how-to/jimi-hendrix-rhythm-guitar-chord-lesson
guitarhero
Full MemberBrowsing my HD this morning and found this from 10 years ago. The contributors are listed below. Would be fun to do another sometime.
DavidB 0:00 – 0:36
grieviuostim 0:36 – 1:11
stratobiker 1:11 – 1:48
lodius 1:48 – 2:26
earl_brutus 2:26 – 3:00
jond 3:00 – 3:35
hummerlicious 3:35 – 4:11
guitarhero 4:11 – end
https://soundcloud.com/barry-dodds/stw-blues-jam
Well with lockdown here again and bound to get worse I'm totally up for this, just a little 8 bar or 16 bar segment to work over, Either run them all together or we do it as separate pieces a la Paul Davids' recent thing.
Anyone able to put together a suitable track to record over? Something moderate tempo that could offer a few opportunites to stretch harminically...
The Pauls Davids one
@eddiebaby, i happily put a backing track together and whack the individual parts together. Can anyone think of any other "rules" that might be needed?
Just a request to keep it under 180BPM. 🙂
That's great Adam, let's see if anyone else is interested.
I thing register interest in trying and then a cutoff date allowing everyone a week or so to plan it and then find time to record it.
Crikey was it really 10 years ago? My playing hasn’t got any better since
I'm up for this
I'm in, some good work on the last colective effort. The last one was in Em and slow, roughly 57bpm with people doubling it up to do their solos around 115bpm. How about Am and faster. A disco beat is around 125bpm, blues rock starts to move from 130bpm and at over 150bpm it's swinging. Or go the other way and slow it right down to 90bpm for those who do want to do bits at 180bpm.
I'm in 🤘
I was noodling around in Am anyhow and wanted to throw the odd interesting chord in there for fun. I'll see what I come up with. Hoping that @chiefgrooveguru might pop in a bass solo... That would be cool
Game on.
Right then! Here it is. Slightly funky feel I think? A nice Am pentatonic will do you OK, but thought I'd make you think with some kind of strange Eb6(#11) thing in there just to "funk" you all up a bit 🙂 95bpm btw.
Chord sequence is: Am7, Eb6(#11), D9, Am7, Eb6(#11), E9(ish).
I suggest you each work out a section which is twice the sequence above, so 16 bars. This is about 40s worth.
https://soundcloud.com/adamt-9/stw_collab
Right, going to loop that and have it playing at low volume as I sleep and see what comes mind in the morning. Thanks Adam. 👍🏼
Perfect Adam. Having spent 20 minutes noodling over it the ideas are coming. As you say funky, a Strat a greenbox and play something choppy.
What file format do you need and how can we get it to you?
Chord sequence is: Am7, Eb6(#11), D9, Am7, Eb6(#11), E9(ish).
Showoff 😀
Will have a play later 🙂
I got a Native instruments Maschine Mk3 yesterday and Komplete 13. I know its mainly used by the young people "Making Beats" but its a completely different work flow to something like logic and for me means I create stuff that is different to normal.
Can't hear the track at work but I'm keen. We did 3 of these back in the day if I recall, that I was involved with anyway, and they were all fun.
Hi all, I updated the SoundCloud link to allow downloading. Happy jamming.
Whoop!!!
Watched the Paul Davids vid. Wow, Chris Buck.
He talks it through on his channel and even gives a Transcription. Discovering him has been a source of much joy this last few months.
Dear Lordy. It seems I just ain’t funky!!
Loving this. Thanks again Adam.
If it makes anyone feel better, I'm having to think a bit about this. That Eb kinda forces you to do something a little different. Quite a few options I think. Can't wait to hear what people are up to.
I have Ableton and Adobe CC (so have media converter). Wavs, MP3 and M4A are all fine. I did get the odd wav sourced from an apple product which was a pain though.
Got it into logic, so will have a play over the weekend, looking forward to it 🙂
Watched the Paul Davids vid. Wow, Chris Buck.
Yeah, the guy is incredible. In another life he would absolutely be a Clapton / Brian May character. He needs a band* and a stage though! Or perhaps Youtube is doing fine for him.
*I've heard Buck and Evans. They're not really my thing.
Had a couple of plays over the track now and getting there but it's not an 'easy' jam. The last STW Rock jam track I did didn't get a great response as a few struggled with the major key and it only modulated between B and A where the relative minor pentatonic worked easily over both.
Ended up with only 2 contributors (plus myself), linked below if interested. Credits to grievoustim, stratobiker, guitarhero in order of appearance. Appreciate it maybe just wasn't that great 😉
https://soundcloud.com/barry-dodds/stw-rock-jam-final
Excellent. And double excellent to stratobiker for slide and wah on there.
Can't seem to download it from SoundCloud anymore?
It downloaded for me directly off the link on the Soundcloud picture on this page, Bob
Thanks for that. I'll give it a play over the weekend. Don't think I've actually recorded any guitar for literally a decade, but I'll have a go...
Struggling but enjoying it. Going for a ride my exercise now via loop to Tesco and on my return I’ll let my fingers warm up and start putting stuff down on silicon.
Its really hard distilling it down to 16 bars, its like every note has to count 🙂
I am by no means a great player but I am thinking to myself that bits OK but not brilliant. Then I think is that bit a bit too similar to the other bit.
Its a lot of fun.
Production on backing track is nice. @AdamT, how did you record it?
Also listening to the last jam, I now feel quite intimidated 😀
It's recorded using a scarlet 2i4. I DI'd the guitar and bass straight into Ableton and use Guitar Rig for the guitar & bass effects. The drums are a simple pattern from Addictive drums. The keyboard is a standard instrument in Ableton too. I threw it in quickly with hardly any takes to be honest. I may tart it up a bit for the final version.
Does your 2i4 have pad on the inputs, both my guitars have pretty high gain humbuckers and I found even with the gain all the way down it would clip the input stage of the scarlet. I only have the 2i2 though.
Yep. Part of the reason I got the 2i4 is for the pad feature. I have an active bass, so wanted this feature in order to cope with that as an input
@AdamT can you expand on the need for the pad with an active bass? I got a steinberg interface at Xmas (Steinberg UR22 MkII Audio Interface), and when I’ve used it to record my active bass it sounds flat.
Some active basses have a pretty high output and wasn't sure if a non Pad input would be ok. In the end it would probably have been ok, but wanted the flexibility and other features too.
Thanks, I think I’ll exchange it for a Behringer model that has pad options too 👍
I have a Behringer UMC202HD, it was relatively cheap but has lots of features, including pad buttons for each input, and good pre-amps
@oldtennisshoes If its sounding flat(I am guessing you don't mean out of tune 🙂 ) it could be impedance matching. Make sure you have the input set to an instrument and not a microphone.
@AdamT how do you want us to send the stems to you?
Send stuff to my email is probably easiest.
adam AT titley DOT org.
Email sent with stem, let me know if you need it changed in any way.
Cheers
Bazzer
PS it sounds weird listening to it without the backing track 🙂
Right, so @Bazzer is in. How about the others get theirs in by say, Wednesday and I can whack it all together?
Will do.
So you just want the guitar soloed without the track and you'll just line it up? Will you fix all my dodgy timing too? 🙂
ooooh! Got any autotune as well? 🙂
(I'm assuming a stereo stem from the start of the first bar to the end of the solo will be OK. This is the first time I've ever done this and spent an informative 45 minutes learning about stems this morning. I'm putting a little delay on there as I tend to play against it but will not print any reverb to tape. Can I leave on a short echo tail of under half a second that you can fade or cut?).
I do have some auto tune and I can fix a bit of dodgy timing too. 😀. I'm trying to leave it mostly raw, but might do the odd fix-up (for cash).
Yes please to soloed pieces. Should just be a case of lining it up, adjust levels and add a bit of light compression & EQ
@eddiebaby, yes, you can leave an echo tail if you like. I'll pop the stems in on individual tracks so in theory they can overlap. If the take starts bang on the beat that's great, but I can easily crop a bit off the front if it's too long.
Edit: I just put my own take in now too. I figured I didn't want to be influenced by the other parts coming in. Who knew 16 bars would take so much thought.
I've realised that junior has all our recording kit up in Paris but I'm sure I'll find some way of recording it. Been skiing since Friday and got into a cold house so bopping around while noodling seemed a good idea. Would this fit with your ideas Adam? It's a mix of penta and notes borrowed from the chord sequence.
Edit: just seen your thing about not wanting to be influenced. DON4T WATCH MY VID IF YOU DON4T WANT TO BE INFLUENCED 🙂
Chill @Edukator I'd already done all of my bits. I might indulge myself a bass solo or breakdown! 👍
Just put my Line6 DT25 combos in the classifieds as I'm moving on soonish and won't have space for it alongside my other amp. A great amp and if you have a Line6 FX with the L6 Link system it is no brainer to have a valve poweramp that reconfigures automatically as you change presets.
The ad and a more of a description is here:
https://singletrackworld.com/classifieds/advert/line6-dt25-1x12-valve-combo/
Right, tune done. Hope I've recorded it right. I lay down (is the right muso term?) a messy, random, first take kind of thing and then I don't reckon I'll better it... 🙂
I'll get it emailed over!
One more go at mine in the morning and then I'm done too.
I've polished and rolled it in glitter but it is still (to quote Blackadder Goes Forth) "… a bit dungy."
Me too. I just plugged the headphone out on the Mustang amp into the computer and used the Windows recorder. This meant I couldn't hear the amp when playing which is a bit odd, it's hard to know how hard to hit the strings without hearing the amp. It sounds very clean, the tone not the playing, and it's horribly compressed, all of the dynamic range that's on the vid above has gone. There's the full 40s worth rather than the 30s on the vid, it took a bit more noodling to work out how to end it. Mine's the "supermarket music" bit.
I was going to say it would be interesting to hear how people recorded their takes, but I am a geek.
I used an Ibanez RG521 Genesis on the neck pickup coil tapped. Into a Line 6 Helix with the standard Country Chorus patch but with the gain on the amp turned down a bit. That was straight into logic pro X on macbook via USB so the helix was used as the audio interface. I did record a dry signal simultaneously too and played around with guitar rig 6 on that, but preferred the Helix sound.
I have re-recorded it with the same patch with a short 300ms delay added and I not sure which one I prefer. I might end up sending that to Adam 🙂
I should really have a go at recording one of my tube amps. The mics I've got in the house are my phone and a Shure voice mic, both of which saturate well before the tubes do. I'll have a go when Madame goes out with the mic on the opposite side of the room to the cab.
Had hoped to have a go last weekend but a large IKEA delivery put paid to that. Guess it's tonight or never, so will put it in Logic, cycle record a few takes, jam along and see what comes out. Will probably use my new HX Stomp into Apogee Element > Mac > Logic, etc.
Guitar > Tuner > MojoMojo > THR10ii > GarageBand on iPad Mini
I'll just leave this here:
I like the cartoon. It's pretty true! In the same was as I'm confused about being a roadie/mtber I'm also confused about guitarist/bassist. I guess if there's a good guitarist in the room I'm a bassist and vica versa. I might already have put a bit of a bass solo in the track already though, so I guess you found me out!? 😀
What would you recommend for someone who is a bit bass curious @AdamT, would not want to spend a fortune, but would want something that its actually an instrument and not a toy 🙂
After a bit of research I got an Ibanez sr305. I'm probably not the best person to ask though. I also got a 2nd hand Warwick rockbass streamer 5 string fretless which I absolutely love. I'm sure there are others who can contribute here.
Edit: the Ibanez appears to have gone up a bit since I got mine. Get something 2nd hand would be my suggestion
@AdamT I'm confused as to my roadie/guitarist status. I always think I'd be better off carrying amps than plugging them in...
Some musicians get worse treatment from Larsen and his copyists...
HAPPY SOUNDCHECK DAY!!!!! 12.1.21
A couple of things that came up on my feed whilst I'm putting off hitting the send button on my track.
Rabea is a great guitarist and I love his bluesier side. A nice live studio recording in one take with the band at the end of the summer last year.
And now a reminder that not ALL the late 60s output was epic
@bazzer - I got a Cort PJ bass, which played great and sounded good too. Something like this: https://rguitars.co.uk/products/cort-action-bass-pj-open-pore-walnut
It was only my natural upgrade fever that saw me get a used Warwick Corvette, but the Cort was a great bass for a curious guitarist/basserist. Note that a Jazz style bass will have a skinny nut that won't feel too alien to a guitarist, and a Precision is a nice baseball bat thickness. I now prefer the latter, though the Jazz is a great bass too.
Anyway, have a look at the Corts before you get all fancy...
Ha! I think Chipps only sent me 8 bars (once through the chords @chipps?) So I decided to funk around and chop it all up for the second run through. I love messing around with this stuff. Hope you approve Chipps?
Really? I never could count bars... 🙂
I can do it again if you want...
No, no need to re-record at all it sounds pretty cool like this I think. 👍 I doubled the speed of one of your little licks, which sounds pretty good I think.
I've emailed mine through. Can you fix all the timings on mine too? 😀 I haven't tried to record any music in about 20 years... I was happy enough with what I wanted to do but the execution needed more polish.
Damn it, never got any time tonight as I ended up working late then kids homework, etc. Oh well, look forward to hearing what everyone else came up with
I got yours superficial. Sounding good! I fixed one tiny little timing bit 😀 and very slightly tweaked the pitch on your big bend. Just a note if you do it again, but your levels are a bit low. Nothing I can't deal with. Thanks for all of this guys. It's really helping me learn the tools.