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[Closed] Gorse infections... is it just me?

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Covid riding has me full of gorse and the holes are resulting in infection way way more than usual (for me) then taking forever to heal (for me).

I'd started thinking it was perhaps my own skin biota devastated by the amount of IPA but it's also legs ... so now I'm wondering is it the gorse itself or some local biota - is it just me???


 
Posted : 12/06/2020 12:11 pm
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Covid riding has me full of gorse

This sounds like the result of trump advice, not covid.

Why are you ingesting or rolling in gorse bushes to stave off a respiratory infection?


 
Posted : 12/06/2020 12:13 pm
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The pus makes it easier to squeeze out the thorns.


 
Posted : 12/06/2020 12:16 pm
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Don’t look up Woodbury rash...


 
Posted : 12/06/2020 12:19 pm
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Don’t look up Woodbury rash…

This x100


 
Posted : 12/06/2020 12:22 pm
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I’d started thinking it was perhaps my own skin biota devastated by the amount of IPA

Is there a particular reason you're using IPA if you're worried about any adverse effects its having?

The advice is 'Wash your hands" and "Don't touch your face" but people seem to have heard that is 'buy sanitiser' and 'buy masks'. Hand sanitiser has a use if you don't have access to any other washing facilities - but its second best to soap.

Interestingly I was flicking through the HSE's latest bulletin which has various interesting bits of advice / caution for businesses that are reopening - like a warning about legionella where premises have been closed for a while.

They mention hand sanitisers and point out there are only certain ingredients that have been sanctioned and tested for use on humans and only certain manufacturers that have submitted their products for assessment and given approval (within that theres a subset of products suitable for the public and ones deemed suitable only for professional use where certain protocols are in place) . They have a handy database of tested and approved products - basically a list of names you've never heard of 🙂


 
Posted : 12/06/2020 12:24 pm
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Yeah gorse rash seems to get infected easily. Don't go there with Woodbury gorse it's something else!

Savlon baths


 
Posted : 12/06/2020 12:37 pm
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Funnily enough, after 25+ years of riding on Woodbury, I seem to be immune to whatever's up there!
Get a lot of gorse rash from riding there, but it's never got infected AFAIR.
I'll probably lose a leg now 🙂

What I'm getting a lot of right now is ticks. 4 after the last ride. Urgh, disgusting little buggers.


 
Posted : 12/06/2020 12:43 pm
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Is there a particular reason you’re using IPA if you’re worried about any adverse effects its having?

Because I've got litres of the stuff... doesn't clog a spray bottle .. I can use it on gate latches etc. (easier to carry than soap and water) doesn't damage clothes like sodium hypochlorate and I'm not going to mess about using quaternary ammonium compounds and benzyl-C12-16-alkyldimethyl chlorides I also have litres of but needs so much dilution to be safe I don't mess with it unless I'm wearing a full FFP3 mask.

It's also non conductive and easier to use on the doorbell etc.


 
Posted : 12/06/2020 12:56 pm
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Don’t look up Woodbury rash…

Actually that was very useful... just disinfected the two main ones that were necrotising and I'll keep an eye on them.


 
Posted : 12/06/2020 1:01 pm
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I’d started thinking it was perhaps my own skin biota devastated by the amount of IPA

I thought this was an admission he was drinking so much bottled beer, he was sweating alcohol and becoming sensitised to it. 😁


 
Posted : 12/06/2020 1:18 pm
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I thought this was an admission he was drinking so much bottled beer, he was sweating alcohol and becoming sensitised to it.

ah.... if only


 
Posted : 12/06/2020 1:31 pm
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My guess is that some animals (goats/sheep/deep/cattle?) have been crashing through the same gorse and contaminated the thorns.


 
Posted : 12/06/2020 1:41 pm
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It smells just like sexwax and it can give you are nasty rash


 
Posted : 12/06/2020 1:59 pm
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☹️ Thought they’d released a new album.


 
Posted : 12/06/2020 4:18 pm
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14 years ago mrmo.

2k people die in the UK falling out of bed.
5 are killed every year by cows.
1.9 are killed by lightning strike each year.

Heck 2.5k left handed people every year area killed by using right handed things world wide.

Death by spikey bush isn't really up there on the list of things to worry about is it?


 
Posted : 12/06/2020 4:28 pm
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Death by spikey bush isn’t really up there on the list of things to worry about is it?

Prob not but worth keeping an eye on.
4-5 years ago I got a shard of wood through my hand... it missed anything vital and I pulled it out and forgot about it. About 48hrs later couldn't close my hand and went to minor injuries... got sent to A&E as they couldn't prescribe antibiotics and A&E gave me anitbiotics and appt with the hand hospital at East Grinstead next day...

After 12-14 hours it was a lot less swollen and I had some movement but Hand Hospital still wanted to completely drain my arm and operate. TBH it seemed more like they had an intern who'd never done the operation they wanted to train so I turned it down... though they refused to give me more antibiotics.

Anyway... didn't die.


 
Posted : 12/06/2020 4:50 pm
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Prob not but worth keeping an eye on.

Yep, but posting a link to a 14 year old news story seems a bit, well, excessive.

TBH it seemed more like they had an intern who’d never done the operation they wanted to train so I turned it down…

Oh come on, who doesn't want to be the recipient of amateur surgery?


 
Posted : 12/06/2020 4:55 pm
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Er... a young Army cadet died a nasty death from sepsis a few years ago after falling into a gorse bush. Be careful. Others have also died; just Google it.


 
Posted : 12/06/2020 6:24 pm
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the story is old, but the point is keep an eye on scratches, as globalti mentions there are other cases. Yes rare thankfully, but if the scratch is odd don't assume it is nothing.


 
Posted : 12/06/2020 6:33 pm
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Thanks for the warning.

I spent most of yesterday struggling through gorse that had overgrown a track I was trying to follow. About 2 hours to do 1 mile, blood everywhere (there were brambles as well).

I'll watch the scratches.


 
Posted : 12/06/2020 6:44 pm
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I’ve got a small gorse bush growing in my garden*, and I’m very careful how I treat it! Fortunately I don’t have worry about any large animals possibly spreading anything via the thorns.
*It started as a tiny little thing I dug up at Fyfield Down near Avebury a couple of years or so ago, it’s now a couple of feet tall, and I’m hoping it’ll start to flower next year, looking forward to those lovely scented bright yellow flowers at the bottom of my garden.


 
Posted : 12/06/2020 11:34 pm
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Re intern surgery. I thought interns were only to be used in the Oval Office?


 
Posted : 13/06/2020 10:21 am
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2k people die in the UK falling out of bed.
5 are killed every year by cows.
1.9 are killed by lightning strike each year.

It’s the 0.1 people left alive each year you have to feel sorry for.

Maybe thanks where the Hand from the Addams family got his big break?


 
Posted : 13/06/2020 10:41 am
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“ Re intern surgery. I thought interns were only to be used in the Oval Office?”
Didn’t work out so well for bill though did it?


 
Posted : 13/06/2020 11:12 am
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Oh come on, who doesn’t want to be the recipient of amateur surgery?

Yeah... that was quite worrying.. she was obviously being trained and the consultant was asking her questions like "what are the diagnostic criteria" .. then when he got to swelling he asked her if it was swollen and then had to tell her she needed to check against the other hand.

It's not just a case of them digging about ... I'd have been less worried they have to drain your entire arm and peel back the skin but what convinced me was when the consultant started lying about stuff I do know* to convince me to have the operation.

*I know sod all about medicine but I do happen to know quite a lot about imaging and the justification they gave me for the operation was that they had to find every last splinter.
This is where I got suspicious... so I asked how they'd know it was every last splinter and then quickly downhill as he told me a piece of equipment I'd been using in Aberdeen Royal didn't exist.
(bit of inbetween as the protocol said I still had another 12 hours to respond to antibiotics and I was already responding and I knew this existed in Aberdeen why not do the operation in Aberdeen - where I was due to be anyway)

I have no idea about the availability of the portable MRI (I had to book non medical use months in advance) but he flatly denied it's existence and seemed altogether to keen to do the operation.


 
Posted : 13/06/2020 11:44 am
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the story is old, but the point is keep an eye on scratches, as globalti mentions there are other cases. Yes rare thankfully, but if the scratch is odd don’t assume it is nothing.

Yep... and although its a very low proportion as MTBers we get far more than our fair share.

I spent most of yesterday struggling through gorse that had overgrown a track I was trying to follow. About 2 hours to do 1 mile, blood everywhere (there were brambles as well).

I’ll watch the scratches.

Yeah, I'm actively avoiding the busy and "well trodden" paths and quite a few just turn into bramble and gorse ... Ive been 500m from a road I can see the traffic on and spent 1/2 hour just getting there


 
Posted : 13/06/2020 11:55 am
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Gorse 'hits' to the knuckles seem to pack a weird punch to me. Immediately afterwards it feels like a combination of bee sting and a rap with a wooden ruler.


 
Posted : 14/06/2020 8:31 pm