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If we legalised cocaine here, would it’s entire production from plant to wrap have to take place here to work.
Or is it legal to grow the plant in Columbia and we could ship in the leaves and do the rest here.

Portugal has decriminalised drugs but they are still produced by cartels, smuggled in by mules and sold by street corner dug dealers, so no reduction of the death and misery generated by its production and funding illegal gangs.


I'm against decriminalisation btw, don't see the point in that at all, it's just the legalisation of the black market without the benefits of regulation and taxation.

I also think there needs to be a move to legalisation, regulation and unionisation of the producing countries too. (I'd even go as far as collectivisation, but that's a whole other thread I guess! )


 
Posted : 27/10/2017 11:00 am
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But it would have to be legalised wordwide to work.
I am talking about if we legalised it here.

Also what would all the nasty people currently involved in the drugs trade do, give up and get day jobs.


 
Posted : 27/10/2017 11:05 am
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Posted : 27/10/2017 11:06 am
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But it would have to be legalised wordwide to work.

It would, aye, but that's not going to happen overnight, someone has to start to normalise the trade. Others will follow. It's already happening with weed.

Also what would all the nasty people currently involved in the drugs trade do, give up and get day jobs.

No-one is saying it's an easy answer, and no-one is denying that prohibition has created an extremely ugly situation. It'll take years and there would be some resistance.

Put it this way, how and when is "the war on drugs" going to change things?

They've been at it 47 years and in that time the trade has exploded. How long we looking, another 47 years, 300 years?


 
Posted : 27/10/2017 11:07 am
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it's really only the richest 3 percent of the country that has access to it and the cash to go get it

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Do you ever go to a pub / bar at the weekend? Coke is everywhere and it's certainly not restricted to the wealthy.


 
Posted : 27/10/2017 11:18 am
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People know what's in their cut cocaine and what goes on with the gangs that produce it. But it still sells.
Until countries legalize it and regulate its production the war on drugs will never end.


 
Posted : 27/10/2017 11:25 am
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If we legalised cocaine here, would it’s entire production from plant to wrap have to take place here to work.
Or is it legal to grow the plant in Columbia and we could ship in the leaves and do the rest here.

It's unlikely that you could manufacture cocaine cost-effectively from base chemicals, so the coca plant would still be required. Cocaine is not too difficult to synthesise, but any chemical process is likely to be orders of magnitude more costly than mass agriculture.

This isn't any different to substances like medical heroin or other opioids, though. The opium is grown legally in places like Australia, imported and processed [small number of chemical steps, depending on what is required] at a plant in Edinburgh. They may do this already with cocaine, actually.


 
Posted : 27/10/2017 11:37 am
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There are a few poppy farms in the UK, Garry.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacFarlan_Smith#Present


 
Posted : 27/10/2017 12:58 pm
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Looks like next week's documentary is The Chuckle Brothers investigating crystal meth in Mexico. Should be good

Shurley the Bro's are Doobie merchants - "to me, to you"


 
Posted : 27/10/2017 1:25 pm
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Until countries legalize it and regulate its production the war on drugs will never end.

Exactly, if legalised it will become like alcohol and tobacco. Neither are good for anyone but there is no need for a war on them.


 
Posted : 27/10/2017 1:35 pm
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Do you ever go to a pub / bar at the weekend? Coke is everywhere and it's certainly not restricted to the wealthy.

They're still much wealthier than your average individual hailing from Medellin.


 
Posted : 27/10/2017 5:31 pm
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