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Seems perfectly normal to have female friends. I probably have more day-to-day female friends than male, but that's also a factor of my daily environment. But ever since my student days I've always preferred a mixed social and living environment. Every shared house has been mixed, pub nights are usually mixed. It just means that drink or coffee with a female friend is nothing out of the ordinary. A lads night out is more likely to be unusual for me.
It's almost like Cougar got possessed by the spirit of Junkyard.
I think I need a shower.
I don't need to know the business of hundreds of people I don't really know.
The problem there isn't the medium, it's a lack of quality control on the part of the user.
I have friends of the opposite sex, so does my wife. I have never seen it as an issue.
I cycle with one of my wifes friends as her husband doesn't like cycling. I go running with my mates wife as her husband hates running.
I have 2 or 3 female work colleagues that I see outside of work as I enjoy their company.
So far, I have managed not to sleep with any of them 😯
It's amazing that all these blokes with limited social skills actually think that any women who was unlucky enough to find themselves in a social, one on one situation with them would want to be "nailed".
Tubby middle aged MTBers do not make a good catch.
[quote=stumpy01 ]I've always found just as much to talk about with women as men - I've never been into football, so the default male pub talk of 'did you see the game last night.....?' would pass me by anyhow....
+1 - maybe it's blokey blokes who do just talk about stuff like that who feel no need for female friends (though I've news for you, some women also like talking about footy). Then again it's not a topic which comes up in conversation with any chaps I know, I guess those I get on with aren't into that either.
[quote=hooli ]So far, I have [s]managed not[/s] not managed to sleep with any of them
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maybe it's blokey blokes who do just talk about stuff like that
indeed...
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I can see this thread being the basis of some-ones PHD.
As we all know there are only two types of men:
1. Knuckle-dragging monosyllabic footie-fans (alpha)
2. Flagrantly camp girlie-boys (beta)
As for women, well, yes, you guessed correctly - just two types:
1. Tiresome giggling air-headed purse-collecting princesses
2. Militant feminist lesbian tomboys
I have lots of male friends, and I meet up with them for MTB rides and/or coffee. Sometimes Mr Pea is with me too, sometimes not.
I have female friends too, but rarely go on all-female nights out. Not wishing to stereotype my own sex, but past experiences of girls nights out have been "mixed".
weeksy » I just still can't grasp why I'd want a female friend.
Does that help at all? It's just a friend who happens to be of a different gender. Why would you want to limit the pool of potential friends to half what it could be? My experience of female friends is that they talk about all the same sort of things as blokes do - at least when they're in my company they're polite enough not to do boring girly topics
Christ on a pogo stick! I guess I must be lucky indeed in that I have a close circle of friends, male and female with whom I can talk on a wide variety of subjects. My friend Fi, who I first met when she worked in the restaurant of the pub that was my local when I used to go out for rides and got chatting to has a wide variety of interests, including bikes.
She asked me out for a drink, eventually things went a bit further but we backed off and kept it as friends. Then we became an item for about a year, but felt things just worked better as friends, and that's been the case for nearly twenty years!
She now manages a Youth Hostel in the Lakes, has been all over the place doing environmental work, Tanzania, Turkey, Norway, Iceland, and we can chat for hours about walks and such, looking at OS maps on my phone, photos we've taken when we've been out, music, books, all sorts of stuff.
Same with my other female friends who I see occasionally.
Same with my best mate who I go out drinking and to gigs with, our pub conversations take in tanks, music, aircraft, cars, animé, comics, books, robot wars...
Never football, hardly any of my close friends have the slightest interest in wendyball.
It's perfectly possible for two people of different gender to have intelligent conversation about a wide variety of subjects without the issue of sex getting in the way, provided you're capable of holding an intelligent conversation on more than just one specific subject, that is...
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Elvis understood (wo)men.
I ride bikes, ski play music, dance, swim, mountaineer etc. with ladies and Madame doesn't flinch, but if I said I was going for a beer with *** or *... she'd wonder 1/ why she wasn't invited 2/ why she wasn't invited.
Their insecurity is their own issue and absolutely not my responsibility.
... [i]that's[/i] the attitude that's 'depressing'.
Kryton57 - MemberTo be fair to Weeksy allthegear, if my understanding is correct your not really playing with a fair bat are you...
I know why you said that, and initially the same thought briefly occurred, but I've been thinking about it some more and I think that actually it's probably a pretty hurtful thing to say (although unintended I'm sure).
My feeling is that Rachel has as much, or maybe even more of a right to be respected as someone who absoloutely should be treated and thought of as you would expect of her gender. Afterall she felt so strongly about it, that she realised that biology had taken a left when it should have taken a right and has taken the steps to make it clearer to others how she identifies herself.
Without wishing to patronise or speak for others, it has crystalized in my mind now (probably should have thought about this a bit more before...) that Rachel is not a man who is now a woman, but a woman who was temporarily housed in a mans body and is now a woman again.
You'd gotten the sex out of the way already with your female friend. Lots of it if you were a thing for a year.
Yep, can be friends with women, especially exes. But I just find it easier to be mates with men.
Is there a difference here between people who've lived with women In a non-romantic/family relationship situation (i.e. shared house) and those that haven't?