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Ghislaine Maxwell arrested,, I wonder how nervous Prince Andrew will be.
Probably not, it's a minor thing.
I bet he is sweating...
Question is: why now?
Hopefully that **** Trump is sweating as well.
Being charged by SDNY as well. Trump/Barr trying to oust Berman the other week becomes clearer as to the reasons why
Interesting times. One wonders whether there might be another mysterious suicide/ vehicle crash/ odd death shortly - obviously you'd hope not, but there are a lot of people who have a lot riding on her not saying anything.
Prince Andrew, today, not sweating...
In happier days. For them, anyway.
'bout time too.
Maybe a plea bargain in exchange for protection?
Being charged by SDNY as well. Trump/Barr trying to oust Berman the other week becomes clearer as to the reasons why
It's hard to know which particular case potentially involving Trump this was aimed at. There seems to be a new one every week.
On the lookout for more desperate blather than usual in the Trump tweetstorm.
Seems a bit funny too the victims were offered some cash the other day, like they were trying to clear the decks of some witnesses first.
Pretty sure the next communications we're likely to hear will be along the lines of:
"Never knew her, never really met her, heard of her but not my type" - Trump
"I'm going on a last minute trip to Paris tomorrow" - Randy Andy
"She shot herself six times in the back of the head from across the street" - The guy performing Maxwells autopsy sometime next week
That NETFLIX doc was revealing to me, I didn't know half the story.
I hadn't even realised that she was part of the Maxwell clan.
When you hear things like 'metropolitan elite' and 'drain the swamp' etc etc the same old folks with money and power just keep on rolling and gullible mugs keep on buying it.
There will be a few twitchy moves over the next 6 months, no doubt like Epstein this will take a couple of years for all the rich guilty folk to get their sh!t together and it all goes away
I imagine Randy Andy will be a bit nervy, but not much.
Another convenient suicide/accident isn't that difficult to arrange with what's at stake and who it is at stake for.
Known and unknown, let the rampant internet speculation begin
https://twitter.com/wryly721/status/1278717287869153281?s=19
There's zero chance she makes it to court, unless she plea bargains and turns govt witness
There’s zero chance she makes it to court, unless she plea bargains and turns govt witness
This ^^^
As I understand it, they don't want to arrest Prince Andrew, they want to interview him as a witness.
He really is making this much worse for himself than it needs to be.
Press conference Live on sky news now
Some abuse happened at her London home
They would like Prince Andrew to come in for questioning
Odds on her avoiding "suicide" to give evidence at trial?!
I would expect SDNY and FBI to closely and directly supervise her; they can't afford a repeat of Epstein.
Regular prison guards are low paid and disinterested so, probably, will be replaced.
How incentivised is she to become a 'co-operator'?
If she can be prevented from dying, she either co-operates for a reduced sentence or pleads not guilty; don't see any other realistic options.
Who was hosting her - and why?
God only knows how far this thing reaches. Epstein was incredibly well connected and it's hard to think that lots of randy old and middle-aged men weren't jumping on the conveyor belt of girls that she and his Maxwellian pimp were providing. In particular, and given his well-known proclivities, it's hard to believe that the orangutan wasn't in it up to his nuts - literally and figuratively - on a regular basis. Which of course is dynamite.
If I was her I'd be in witness protection sharpish otherwise I can't see her life being worth a dime. Not that the Tango clown is a threat, I think we've established that given an infinite number of breweries and an infinite number of alcoholics he'd still fail to get a piss-up away. The people who are vested in him, and it's a long list, on the other hand would have no problems getting to her. Vlad the Blackmailer may even send a couple of gormless tourists to put novichok in her tea in between trips to admire the Staten Island ferry..
Odds on her avoiding “suicide” to give evidence at trial?!
Terrible news about Maxwell killing herself next week.
😉
Probably not, it’s a minor thing.
C'mon people. Credit where it's due....😁 I thought that was pretty good.
If perchy had written it you'd be all over it like a cheap suit.
I was also wondering why now?
FBI plea deal:
Sell out Trump in a gamble to sink him v him as a second term president = doesn't bode well for her come Jan 2021 in that mansion. Help in exchange for immunity and new face, life in NZ.
Trump loses election, new president = leaverage gone.
given an infinite number of breweries and an infinite number of alcoholics he’d still fail to get a piss-up away
I need to use this in work tomorrow....
It's amazing how many people connected with high level paedophilia die of sudden illness before the beans are spilled in court.
I hope she has good health insurance.
This news might cure Andy's affliction. I bet he's sweating now....
I don't understand why she stayed in the US. This story wasn't going to go away and staying there assures her capture/being found.
The big question for me has always been about Trump's involvement with Epstein - it seems almost inconceivable that he isn't balls-deep in this whole thing. If you were Gislaine Maxwell, looking down the barrel of what? 200 years in prison? Now would be the time to play your literal Trump card.
There is also the whole Bill Barr think to consider. I wonder if her being arrested in New Hampshire is significant in any way? Don't know how this stuff works in the US.
Safely sitting under my tinfoil sombrero, I'm inclined to think that some omnipotent, shady cabal has now decided that trump has no-hope of winning the election - and so they've activated their scorched-earth policy.
I don’t understand why she stayed in the US.
Very reasonable point. You'd think she'd be laying low somewhere without an extradition agreement!
As to the the conspiracy and timing side of things, I just think it's taken this long for the FBI to put together a slam dunk. This is what gives leverage to identify and prosecute other offenders. She'll plea for a more lenient sentence. This could be massive with records and images or a bit of he said/she said.
Going to affect the left and right.
All good though, we can trade Sweaty Andy for that woman who ran over the laddie outside the airbase.
''His lawyers insist the US Department of Justice has rejected three offers of help volunteered by the prince this year.'' They clearly saw this coming. Offer spurious 'help' which gets rejected then when you're invited for interview it's all nah, you didn't take up the offer last time, not playin'.
My guess is that Andy offered to talk to the FBI in the UK an not under oath. The US authorities want to speak to him in the US under oath so they can arrest him
Good point, I wonder if Andrew is feeling tempted to take a drive with dad.
The US authorities want to speak to him in the US under oath so they can arrest him
Realistically, I think the chances of Andrew being arrested is mostly nil. I'm sure the US cops want to talk to him, but there's no way he'll do it under oath or anywhere near the States
I don’t understand why she stayed in the US. This story wasn’t going to go away and staying there assures her capture/being found.
As I understand it, the case is being investigated by the Southern District of New York (SDNY) federal attorney's office. If you follow U.S. political news, you'll see that there was a recent scandal where that U.S. Attorney was sacked by the Attorney General (Bill Barr) on the instructions of President Trump. Initially Bill Barr tried to claim that the U.S. Attorney had resigned and wanted to appoint an outside replacement, who was widely believed to be a Trump patsy. However, due to some technicalities, he was actually not allowed to appoint an outsider and the Assistant U.S. Attorney automatically becomes the interim U.S. Attorney. She immediately pledged to continue all ongoing investigations, which was interpreted as code for refusing to shut down investigations of Trump's friends. However, nobody was really sure who or what was being investigated. Having this pop up now looks really, really bad for Trump. Reason she would have stayed in the U.S. is because she was assured that Trump and Bill Barr were going to quash the investigation.
https://twitter.com/dlh2409/status/1278727543185485827
Very reasonable point. You’d think she’d be laying low somewhere without an extradition agreement!
I'd expect such countries to possibly have a good few Russian tourists and high suicide rates
I mean, you can choose between China, Bosnia, Saudi Arabia or Myanmar...
if she still has all the videos... then this could get interesting. Epstein's 'suicide' means they can get you anywhere.
All good though, we can trade Sweaty Andy for that woman who ran over the laddie outside the airbase.
A beautiful ray of hope amongst the dismal gloom in this thread ( genuine gloom BTW, not dissing other posters)
If only that could actually happen.... In a parallel non evil universe somewhere, perhaps it could
Andy is as safe as houses whatever comes out. His mummy will keep him on the payroll and does anyone think any UK government will agree to his extradition to anywhere. The worst that will happen is that he can’t travel to the USA
One of SDNY's investigations is into Giuliani.
SDNY have a long standing reputation for acting independently and taking on difficult cases; it's known to be engrained throughout the organisation so unless trump/barr replaces all of the staff, they will continue as before.
Don't forget that trump also fired Preet Bharara who preceded Geoffrey Berman - who was nominated by trump - and, despite what the orange buffoon may have wanted/expected, nothing changed.
As for why Maxwell stayed in the US, who knows?
As for why Maxwell stayed in the US, who knows?
If she'd headed off abroad in the face of an active investigation, she would be returned via extradition at some point, then potentially classed as a flight risk and incarcerated rather than allowed out under house arrest.
Being in the states allows her to consult with her legal team, and negotiate with the federal authorities, again building a picture of cooperation which might keep her out of a cell.
If she does have significant dirt on someone powerful, the US (outside prison) is a lot safer place to be than pretty much any country, including the UK, as she would be under surveillance by the authorities.
Why did she stay in the states?
Why would she leave? As stated above she has collected enough powerful and wealthy friends to protect her from any charges forthcoming.
I wonder how many people in recent days have left the US on a plane bound for safer locations ala the bin ladens a few years back.
Apologies for the source:
https://www.****/news/article-7843659/Ghislaine-Maxwell-reportedly-foreign-spy-hiding-Israel.html
UK government will agree to his extradition to anywhere.
IIRC we have signed an extradition treaty with the US that means anyone they ask for we have to send
IIRC we have signed an extradition treaty with the US that means anyone they ask for we have to send
The UK courts have already ruled that diplomatic immunity would be sufficient legal basis to refuse a request, so there's no question of that.
Requests have to go through the US State Department rather than come directly from prosecuting authorities, so I can't see one ever being made for the son of the Queen of England!
The Americans should light a fire and offer up Anne Sacoolas in return
Does Randy Andy have diplomatic immunity?
I reckon in they chuck in one of the smaller states - Delaware, or maybe Rhode Island, that would be a sweet enough deal to tempt Her Maj.
Does Randy Andy have diplomatic immunity?
He was some kind of nominal Trade Envoy/International Golf Course Inspector at the time, I do believe. Plus he's a member of the British Royal Family, which would push an extradition request into 'diplomatic incident' territory.
If it turns out they do have enough information to charge him with something serious, they should just do it for a laugh.
IIRC we have signed an extradition treaty with the US that means anyone they ask for we have to send
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But I fawt we woz now a sovrin nayshun.
Does Randy Andy have diplomatic immunity?
Another possibility is that he will be offered a presidential pardon in exchange for full cooperation, on condition that his testimony is sealed. Once someone is pardoned, they no longer have the right to not testify on the grounds of self-incrimination (because they can't be prosecuted), so they must offer truthful testimony or face a charge of perjury. I also assume that he will not be setting foot outside of Britain for the rest of his life just in case some judge somewhere issues a secret warrant for his arrest.
I think the Ecuadorian Embassy has a spare room at the moment.
If she’d headed off abroad in the face of an active investigation, she would be returned via extradition at some point, then potentially classed as a flight risk and incarcerated rather than allowed out under house arrest.
She's in a cell and deemed a flight risk:
U.S. Magistrate Judge Andrea Johnstone ordered Maxwell to remain in custody at a brief hearing via videoconference in federal court in New Hampshire, where another of her attorneys, Lawrence Vogelman, did not seek an immediate bail hearing because her lawyers plan to make those arguments after she is transferred to New York.
In a court filing, prosecutors said Maxwell should stay behind bars pending trial because she might flee given her “extensive international ties,” noting she has citizenship in two countries and three passports in her name. Maxwell, 58, faces the possibility of 35 years in prison if convicted and has “absolutely no reason to stay in the United States,” prosecutors argued in the filing.
58! Dear God, I met her when she was 16. Now i feel old.
She’s in a cell and deemed a flight risk:
Certainly at the moment, no lower court judge is going to set bail on such a high profile out of area case - but they can make a much stronger argument for pre-trial house arrest once she gets to a NY court. No attempt to flee the country, when she had the means and opportunity.
I met her when she was 16. Now i feel old.
Did you know Cap'n Bob?
Had proper LOL moment this morning reading that the matchmaker between Andy and Maxwell, setting things in place for helicopter boy,seems to have been everyone’s infamous, toe sucking children's author , the one and only Fergie. 🙂
Did you know Cap’n Bob?
I worked at Pergamon Press in the early 70's. Met Maxwell on a regular basis. At one point for a year Kevin and Ian Maxwell worked at desks next to mine. After I left there a designer I freelanced for had the job of redesigning Ghislane's bedroom at Headington Hill Hall and I got slightly involved.
Maxwell was a thoroughly evil person. When his death was announced the publisher of Windsurf mag and I had just arrived in Egypt for a winter test trip. We both heard the news on the World Service and both ran into the corridor to tell the other (he was ex BBC Radio Oxford and had to interview Maxwell far too often).
I'd taken a bottle of brandy with me and that would normally last two weeks of the test. We finished it in about 2 hours celebrating.
I got slightly involved.
In her bedroom?
Lordy no. Even if she was 16.
If you go down the rabbit hole far enough this all started way back with Maxwell allegedly being a spy for mossad
Does Randy Andy have diplomatic immunity?
I'm not sure the alleged things he was up to count as part of his diplomatic duties...
ElShalimo
MemberI don’t understand why she stayed in the US. This story wasn’t going to go away and staying there assures her capture/being found.
I'm just assuming she thought she was protected tbh.
From what I have seen of the American media, they are making a much bigger deal of links to the Clintons and barely a mention of Trump.
Eric Trump tweeted a photo of Chelsea Clinton’s wedding, with Ghislane sitting to one side of the congregation, captioned ‘Birds of a feather’.
He promptly got spit-toasted by the Twitterati, who posted the photo above showing mum and dad getting very cosy with Epstein and Ghislane. The tweet vanished shortly afterwards.
It begs the question, just how many young girls of Epstein’s ‘acquaintance’ did Donny grab by the pussy...? 🤔
LOL at hols2
Donald lies a lot but on one point I think he's telling the truth. Of Epstein:
It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side
And would be unlikely to draw attention to Esptein's preferences in a mocking manner if Epstein were capable of turning round and saying you too.
And would be unlikely to draw attention to Esptein’s preferences in a mocking manner if Epstein were capable of turning round and saying you too.
I’ve heard that quite though and it definitely doesn’t seem like Trump’s mocking him. In fact it appeared that Trump was more impressed and actually defending Epstein “So he likes younger girls, big whoop, fuhgeddaboutit!”
I hope Maxwell can bring him down as a paedo. That would make her pitiful existence momentarily worthwhile For civilisation.
She's caught Corona in jail
She’s caught Corona in jail
Poorly done satire that article.
A "friend" of hers has said she will Not throw Andrew under a bus. Personally I'd throw anyone under a bus to avoid some years in jail
So do the bookies have odds on her 'suiciding' yet?
Personally I’d throw anyone under a bus to avoid some years in jail
Has TJ just outed himself as the Putney Bridge Jogger?
A lot of people in jail fall down stairs, in to a noose, through a woidchipper and burst into flames. Apparently.
Lolz @ maccruiskeen
Feds will do everything in their power to ensure she is watched 24/7 in New Hampshire and, more importantly, NYC.
Given what happened to Epstein ('allowed' to commit suicide) and the the little black book she undoubtedly has - in very safe keeping - it would be either...
a) highly convenient if she died
or
b) incredibly troublesome if she died
The fact it's SDNY bringing the case, I would be v surprised if she didn't make it to court and beyond.
The big question is the extent which she will co-operate.
Will anything new emerge about her father - that well known bouncing czech who couldn't swim; unsubstantiated claims to be Mossad agent.
Favoured daughter who couldn't live upto her father's expectations; who knows?
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Everyone in that picture wishes they were with someone younger
There's a strange echo in here!
(stealth edit makes me look random)
She'll conveniently die of Covid before the trial!