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It’s like old tossers bingo - woke, snowflake, Meghan, remoaners, cancel culture, BLM, taking the knee…
HOUSE!!!! 😀
Have we decided it’s OK to use this term?
I’m not collectively-minded so can’t comment on that, but personally think it’s just stooping to the same level. A mouthy-bigot using derogatory shorthand labels (with or without racial undertones/overtones) will easily best you at that level as they will likely have a lifetime of practice. Did you wish to be as accomplished?
What am I going to benefit from watching it.
It can be useful to see what the "other side" think and are arguing for. From the reports though I would wait until it gets slightly more professional.
Don’t forget, GBNews only serves as the ‘polite’ end of the wedge. In a similar way to Fox News.
GB Resistance (for example) is the ‘real’ stuff. You most likely won’t see GB News reporters up close and personal covering the antics of it’s supporters.
The comments are revealing.
GB Resistance (for example) is the ‘real’ stuff. You most likely won’t see GB News covering the antics of it’s supoorters.
Does nobody have a job anymore or are they using all their holiday time to shout at people in the street?
Can we not rationally, and based on evidence, improve things piecemeal because no doubt some institutions, policies and practices are oppressive.
I think that that view is largely the dominate one.
Your argument seems to be the first generation of CRT writers poached and "emancipated " language and definitions that other academics then condemned as not correct....Well durrr... Marx was a revolutionary, the first Feminists were revolutionary. CRT is an academic movement that seeks to spark revolutionary (in the sense of new) thinking, and largely became cultural by other's opposition to it.
That video is surreal. Like some sort of hallucination induced by illness, or severe dehydration or something. All sorts of strange sounds and weird phrases. I particularly liked 'Sunday laws are the mark of the Beast'. Seems we are in some kind of 'Truth War'. Be good to see Keunssberg get the same treatment though. 😀
*For the record, I think those demonstrators are a bunch of ****ing loons. This is what happens when you don't educate your populace sufficiently.
Just a few points:
- Gammon is getting a bit overdone now, I'd favour reverting to "bigot" or "arsehole".
- Of all the names attached to GB News, Dan Wooton is the one that really gives the measure of it. How did that utter clown ever climb so high on the greasy pole at News UK?
- I may be proved wrong, but I don't think it's going to stick. And I certainly don't expect it to gain the same kind of market position as the Mail.
Brilliant that they're now being trolled in a Bart Simpson Manner. So far they're had Mike Hunt and Mike Oxlong on air 😀
https://twitter.com/ArrowontheHill/status/1404907917518819337?s=20
There are no saints on both side so why pretend?
There are skeletons in the closet for all.
Have some fun, have a good laugh.
Life is too short especially when you are at certain age.
Remember there is no more existence beyond this life so relax or it will be too late to enjoy the final part of life ... you definitely do not want to go while stress.
I see Neil is now attacking Ikea for pulling their adverts, which is a great way of attracting new business.
There are no saints on both side so why pretend?
There are skeletons in the closet for all.
Have some fun, have a good laugh.
Life is too short especially when you are at certain age.
Remember there is no more existence beyond this life so relax or it will be too late to enjoy the final part of life … you definitely do not want to go while stress.
I'm hearing this in the voice of Manny (Bill Bailey) quoting from the Little Book of Calm in Black Books.
I'd enjoy this forum so much more if I could block the posts by just one user. Not sure it would make any difference to my "stress", but it would make some threads a much better read.
There are no saints on both side so why pretend?
There are skeletons in the closet for all.
Have some fun, have a good laugh.
Life is too short especially when you are at certain age.
Remember there is no more existence beyond this life so relax or it will be too late to enjoy the final part of life … you definitely do not want to go while stress.
Absolutely, let's all ignore systemic inequality and structural racism and just have a good time!
I'm alright jack, and sod anyone else, is that it?
When did trying to make the world a better place become frowned upon?
It can be useful to see what the “other side” think and are arguing for.
I know what the other side think and want. They seem to be slowly getting it over the last 10 years too. Watching them say it again and again is going to provide no benefit to me other than remind me that the UK is full of tossers.
Remember there is no more existence beyond this life so relax or it will be too late to enjoy the final part of life … you definitely do not want to go while stress.
Well it wasn't the 'woke snowflakes' that got so cross about it that they made their own 'news' channel dedicated to their crossness.
I think that that view is largely the dominate one.
I think that's what most people who 'take a knee' believe but only because they don't understand the Theory behind it all.
I’m alright jack, and sod anyone else, is that it?
That is how a lot of people are and why we are where we are (since 80's)
Everybody says they love the NHS but I saw more people protesting about the freedom of not having to wear a mask or not having a vaccine than I did protesting about the 1% NHS pay rise.
Worse than that... people were protesting against NHS staff who were risking their own health and lives (and working their arses off) to look after Covid patients. A new low when to comes to how motivated people can become based on nonsense ideas spread by bad faith actors who are contrary for money. This new channel looks to mostly be yet another platform for these bad faith "will write/speak shit for money and attention" people, no matter their "political" history (see Baroness Fox of Buckley for a great example of this).
Absolutely, let’s all ignore systemic inequality and structural racism
How are so-called systemic racism and structural racism to be grasped by policy and legislation?
How do you even know they exist?
I think that’s what most people who ‘take a knee’ believe but only because they don’t understand the Theory behind it all.
I have no idea whether Martin Luther understood the "theory behind it". I can say that this image (or one like it) was the reason Colin Kaepernick gave as the reason he did.
I think that’s what most people who ‘take a knee’ believe but only because they don’t understand the Theory behind it all.
If you're going to keep capitalising that can you at least provide some sort of footnote where we can do the necessary further reading otherwise I'm afraid I don't Understand Your Theory At All.
I think that’s what most people who ‘take a knee’ believe but only because they don’t understand the Theory behind it all.
I love how theory has a capital case here.
If most of the people arent as well educated as yourself and dont understand whats behind it all does it really count as being behind it all?
It doesn't matter whether people understand the Theory as long as they understand why people are doing it and can acknowledge it and be part of making things better.
How are so-called systemic racism and structural racism to be grasped by policy and legislation?
How do you even know they exist?
For example:
https://www.jrf.org.uk/report/uk-poverty-2020-21
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47300343
https://blog.shelter.org.uk/2021/04/the-sewell-report-an-example-of-institutional-racism/
There are no saints on both side so why pretend?
You really buy into this ‘two sides’ narrative?
Back to the ‘antiwoke’ news. The term ‘woke’ came from the US, I believe.
As does the trend for this current crop of L vs R/Punch vs Judy/B vs W/Nationalist vs ‘traitor’/meat vs veg/opinion vs science ‘newstainment’
Where the US goes, the UK normally follows, with it’s own Spam and eggs version of the same type of lunacy.
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Piers Morgan is upset.
Never mind eh.
Piers Morgan is upset.
About GB news?
About not being a presenter on GB news?
Too many woke people?
Piers Morgan is upset.
That Meghan is still ignoring him?
It doesn’t matter whether people understand the Theory as long as they understand why people are doing it and can acknowledge it and be part of making things better.
The aims of the activists are purely to destroy. Do you not grasp this? There is no rational-purposeful plan like Civil rights had.
I think that’s what most people who ‘take a knee’ believe but only because they don’t understand the Theory behind it all.
Theory? You don't need a theory and if you do it's probably bollox. It's a simple statement you put a knee down during the anthem or whenever them to show you show no pride in a governement/state/monarch that oppresses and is racist. It's an anti-racism statement that since the George Floyd murder is even more poignant. Clear?
I think every England player takes a knee fully understands they're making a statement about racial inequality and discrimination and so does just about everybody watching. The racists don't like it.
Now your theory in the space of a Tweet in plain English.
The aims of the activists are purely to destroy. Do you not grasp this?
What utter cobblers.
I've tried to read this thread and given up. I can't understand half of it, can't understand almost all of the names for groups of people that are being bandied about (woke, gammon etc), I can't tell if people are being rude, genuine or sarcastic and can't tell if people are racist, anti-racist or wind up merchants and I have no idea what CRT is or who these philosophers are.
I started reading it thinking I would get some understanding of what this news channel is about and a little bit of education. However I find myself utterly confused instead.
Why can't people just be nice to each other?
If I ever get involved in 1 of these threads, I think that any response will start with "Do you believe that we should all be nice to everybody we see or meet, in person or on the net, regardless of what they look and/or sound like?"
Suggest a separate thread for BLM?
I started reading it thinking I would get some understanding of what this news channel is about and a little bit of education. However I find myself utterly confused instead.
Simplistically think of it as a news channel if the news was run by the Daily Mail.
Contains news but is biased in a similar leaning to Daily mail articles and opinion pieces.
The aims of the activists are purely to destroy. Do you not grasp this?
No I don't. Do you grasp that the aims of activist are to improve matters?
@i_scoff_cake
Do you believe that we should all be nice to everybody we see or meet, in person or on the net, regardless of what they look and/or sound like?
"The aims of the activists are purely to destroy. Do you not grasp this? There is no rational-purposeful plan like Civil rights had."
That strikes me as a sweeping generalisation, almost bigotry in fact. Which activists are you referring to? Your posts are almost impenetrable so think of me as an 8 y.o. for the purpose of this please?
Thanks @Kerley
Do you believe that we should all be nice to everybody we see or meet, in person or on the net, regardless of what they look and/or sound like?
I don't like the Daily Mail very much, it often seems a little bit bigoted. I'm not sure this channel will be for me.
BTW, please don't think of me as sanctimonious, I am far from perfect and have a very chequered past. I am trying to be better every day tho.
What are they planning on creating or improving then?
What we have so far are demands to tear down this or that statue, rename this or that street, ban this book, ban this film. cancel this person, defund the police, close prisons, etc.
Equal pay and access to jobs, equal access to education, equal access to housing, equal chances of survival in the hands of the police, equal treatment by the police and authorities in general, equal treatment wherever and whatever they're doing.
Misrepresenting the demands of black people is racist.
The aims of the activists are purely to destroy. Do you not grasp this?
When You’re Accustomed to Privilege, Equality Feels Like Oppression
What we have so far are demands to tear down this or that statue, rename this or that street, ban this book, ban this film. cancel this person, defund the police, close prisons, etc.
Did you get your opinion about them from the Spectator or something?
Black Lives Matter UK has announced it is giving £600,000 in funding to grassroots groups across the country, including those that organised last summer’s anti-racism protests.
The campaign group received £1.2m in donations via a GoFundMe appeal, following widespread protests last summer.
BLMUK is awarding the funds in two phases. The first round has seen just over £169,500 given in small grants to 14 organisations that work to “improve Black people’s lives in a racist society” and that the campaign group has worked with over the last five years.
The largest recipient of the first round of funding is the United Friends and Families Campaign, which has received £45,000 to set up a “people’s tribunal” for deaths in custody. Other organisations include the groups behind last summer’s protest, All Black Lives, Justice for Black Lives, and A Tribe Named Athari.
BLMUK has also given funding to the Northern Police Monitoring Project;
Sistah Space, London’s only specialist domestic violence service for women of African and Caribbean heritage; African Rainbow Family, a charity supporting Black and minority ethnic (BME) LGBTQI refugees and asylum seekers; Acts of Love, an African-Caribbean community centre; AZ Magazine, an arts and culture initiative for LGBTQI people of colour; and B’ME Cancer Communities, a charity that protects the health of BAME and low-income communities affected by cancer, long-term health conditions and Covid-19.The group has also given money to two international groups: Abahlali, a Black South African shack dwellers’ movement campaigning against evictions and for public housing; and Sindicato de Manteros de Madrid, a Spanish labour union of people primarily from Black and migrant communities.
What we have so far are demands to tear down this or that statue, rename this or that street, ban this book, ban this film. cancel this person, defund the police, close prisons, etc.
1. none of these things has anything to do with CRT as an academic subject.
2. That's just a laundry list of "stuff". For instance, "defund the police" my understanding of that is rather than fund the police to treat (for example) drug use as a crime, fund other social organisations to use that money to treat drug addiction as a social ill instead. What is your interpretation of it?