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If it annoys the usual snowflakey woke types more the better
Any chance of describing "snowflakey woke" types? No? Thought not.
e are happy to throw around what has become an insult to discuss someone with a different opinion to ours strikes me as being petty. Fighting prejudice with prejudice is a bit shit, really.
Conversely, I think it is absolutely bob-on. The people it is applied to actively reject any attempt to engage in discourse about immigration, racism etc because it doesn't sit with their blinkered world view. The level of cognitive dissonance displayed by your average gammon (e.g. "we want control of our borders"/"why can't I go and live in Spain?") would make a supercomputer crash spectacularly.
They are bigots and, on the whole, selfish morons. I think it is entirely apposite.
They are bigots
And my view is that giving them an insulting name based on perceived physical appearance, is also bigotry.
An eye for an eye makes us all blind, even the well intentioned.
Any chance of describing “snowflakey woke” types?
Its generally anyone who doesn't think Bernard Manning is hilarious
And my view is that giving them an insulting name based on perceived physical appearance, is also bigotry.
For what it's worth, I don't think it was originally intended to be a descriptor for just physical appearance - just when chaps of a certain age and weight get a bit wound up and red in the face and start spluttering and shouting at the sky, they tend to go a bit pink and, well, uncooked ham in appearance.
I agree it's gone a little beyond it's initial roots, but I still think it's a good catch-all! 😉
Who is the lady in beige, far left?
Kirsty Gallaher.
Think she used to host you've been framed or something similar and disappeared from the mainstream after being a bit gammony.
EG:
Andrew Neil:
A ham, yesterday:
So we shouldn't call them gammons, we should call them bigots? Right-oh. I think I can live with that. Nice and factual. Bigots it is.
People do seem a bit snowflakey about the term Gammon, tho'.
Urgh, I can't wait until this is on at the in-laws'. This whole manufactured polarisation of politics is concerning for sure - just look what it's achieved in the US.
As a side-note: I really don't understand how 'woke' can be an insult. People proudly declaring their ignorance is so infuriating. I don't get it.
I despise the use if the term “gammon”.
#GammonLivesMatter
#gammonbigotnews
don’t know why the UK sky is such leftist tosh
Ah, yes, that well known socialist… *checks notes*…. Rupert Murdoch.
You should check them again.
Sky is owned by Commcast, their most well known 'Brand' is CNBC, a Centre-Left Broadcaster.
In fairness to Sky News, AFAIK have always been independent and unbiased, despite who owns them.
Sky News Australia, whole other thing.
Sky News Australia, whole other thing.
How do they get away with it? It (SNA) comes over somewhat like ‘Infowars’, only more depressing on account of it being named, funded and received as a bonafide ‘news’ channel.
In what universe can this be termed as racist?
Because it's association with a particular skin colour
The fact that a BAME person wouldn't be called a gammon even if they expressed the same beliefs (support for Brexit, war on drivers, antipathy to EU etc) demonstrates the issue
I prefer "snoutflake". Encapsulates them perfectly. Although "gammon piece of shit" does, too.
I prefer “snoutflake”. Encapsulates them perfectly. Although “gammon piece of shit” does, too.
Divide and conquer? You’re well in the game now.
Finally got to go for a drink in our old local pub yesterday. It was under new ownership. As we were leaving Mrs P was verbally attacked by a random stranger/patron for her shown interest in the pub’s vegan menu items. Unfortunately she was within earshot (he was at the bar) and so he became animatedly offended.
“I hate vegans. Sorry, no offense but I hate them”
His friend/wife/sister/GF(?)stepped in and apologised on his behalf. So that was alright then 🙄
It’s a whole new (old) country out there.
You’re only welcome in your own country if you play their game/toe their line. And then they’ll turn in back on you. He was offended by our freedoms to not have to eat meat at our local. We laughed it off and left in good cheer. I’m sure his memory will be that he ‘conquered the offended snowflakes’.
Shall be returning for nut roast, veggie sausages and cider 🙂
Typical, trying to erase our culture. Now they're trying to cancel Dickens!
http://www.dickens-online.info/nicholas-nickleby-page126.html
a complex issue, even with the usual wiki warning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_the_work_of_Charles_Dickens
Because it’s association with a particular skin colour
One could argue that affluent middle aged men with rosy cheeks, beer bellies and reactionary politics are in fact: not a race...On the other hand it's like all other shorthand slurs, (like black people and fried chicken or calling people snowflake) just another piece of the culture war that makes everyone's life just that little bit less pleasant.
a complex issue,
In which case the fact that Dickens was diversely racist against both forriners and puffed up white men is at least a step towards his rehabilitation. 🙂 I would probably expect a 21st century man to be a little more enlightened, and usually be disappointed to find the reverse.
PS Was a joke really, just echoing the normal bleating about cancel culture you hear from the GBeebies crowd.
PPS Kirsty Gallacher, eh? They do like hiring drink-drivers, don't they?
One could argue that affluent middle aged men with rosy cheeks, beer bellies and reactionary politics are in fact: not a race…
trait based on skin colour.....
whilst I have sympathy for the need for a way of describing a group with particular issues with people on cycles it's not appropriate
They are currently interviewing Jed, from Oxford. He is a teenager. They are talking about his prom being cancelled. Big time.
Sound quality is appalling, I've dipped in a couple of times today and there has been a massive echo each time.
Update, Jed bought a new suit and can't wear it to the prom.
Update, Jed bough a new suit and can’t wear it to the prom.
What? The inhumanity.
Has he got a crowdfunder we can contribute to?
If it annoys the usual snowflakey woke types more the better
I love it when the offended people use the term snowflake because they don't like someone’s opinion. The ironary of it all is hilarious.
I see they've manged to secure the services part time historian and full-time rent a gob Neil Oliver.
Nice to see he's expanding his House Jock schtick to also include a bit of Anti-lockdown flavour.
PPS Kirsty Gallacher, eh? They do like hiring drink-drivers, don’t they?
Surely drink driving laws are an infringement of their civil liberties imposed on them by freedom-hating fascists?
Surely drink driving laws are an infringement of their civil liberties imposed on them by freedom-hating fascists?
I don't know, what does the bloke who runs Guido Fawkes have to say on it?
Oh.
If it annoys the usual snowflakey woke types more the better
You can tell a lot about a person who enjoys something specifically because someone else hates it, rather than on any merit of it’s own.
Nice to see he’s expanding his House Jock schtick to also include a bit of Anti-lockdown flavour.
Very "civic"
Surely drink driving laws are an infringement of their civil liberties imposed on them by freedom-hating fascists?
All laws restrict someones freedom. Can't believe I'm not allowed to go around murdering right wing idiots spouting false news.
I despise the use if the term “gammon”. I totally understand the type of people and views it represents, but the fact that we are happy to throw around what has become an insult to discuss someone with a different opinion to ours strikes me as being petty. Fighting prejudice with prejudice is a bit shit, really.
I dunno, it's probably a bit more polite than just calling people 'Bigots' and/or 'Racists' but also wonderfully descriptive, painting a perfect picture of the target(s) with a single word. Plus it's kind of reciprocal innit:
...snowflakey woke types...
They had plenty of names for those of us not on their wavelength, long before they were compared to a porcine product...
Ultimately if you were hoping for respectful discourse, without unpleasant name calling you're out of luck, this is the shape of modern social and political "debate" in the UK now...
As a side-note: I really don’t understand how ‘woke’ can be an insult. People proudly declaring their ignorance is so infuriating. I don’t get it.
That's half the point, indeed people who think labelling people, opinions or organisations they disagree with as "Antifa" tells a tale also.
To be labelled by some Gammony git as "Antifa" i.e. Anti-fascist, the very antithesis of an oppressive, enemy of freedom and inclusion, that's kind of a badge of honour really. And of course helpfully outlines the mindset of the person applying, what they see as a slur...
Ultimately its (arguably) an indication of a free society when Populist, Right-wingers are free to start their own propaganda "News" channel, it immediately disproves the claims that their views and opinions have been stifled...
I suppose we'll see how they get along with Offcom, the monologues are probably just a tester to see what the response is. If they've not picked up too many complaints after a few weeks, they'll probably start ramping up the US imports, and we'll see more 'Red-scare' gibberish, stories of Wokeness run wild and 'Antifa' and BLM pained as the enemies of <m>"our way of life"...
Give them time...
GBeebies
chapeau, much chapeau
Not mine, it's trending on Twitter, so chapeau to whoever came up with it. Fits perfectly.
I suppose we’ll see how they get along with Offcom,
Luclily Boris has that in hand..
After his number one choice of right wing racist bigot was rejected, the restarted the whole process and will continue to do us until he is accepted as head of Ofcom.....
That’s half the point, indeed people who think labelling people, opinions or organisations they disagree with as “Antifa” tells a tale also.
To be labelled by some Gammony git as “Antifa” i.e. Anti-fascist, the very antithesis of an oppressive, enemy of freedom and inclusion, that’s kind of a badge of honour really. And of course helpfully outlines the mindset of the person applying, what they see as a slur…
I expect their view of what antifa is and yours is somewhat different. They might associate it as a group associated with street violence and property destruction who spend a lot of time and energy looking for people they disagree with to have a fight and throw things at police officers
Of course it probably not like that and is misrepresented by mainstream media
it immediately disproves the claims that their views and opinions have been stifled…
How many years now have Fauxrage et al been dining out on that ‘no-one will broadcast us’ myth? Nothing is ‘disproven’ in the minds of the irony-deficient.
If it annoys the usual snowflakey woke types more the better
I can't help but feel that working to improve things for people is a better approach and generally leads to better outcomes than championing things on the grounds that they annoy a particular set of people. Schadenfreude is apparently a childish emotion but when it comes to things like this, it seems to get free reign.
As already noted though, it's a good indicator that someone should be avoided if possible.
I expect their view of what antifa is and yours is somewhat different. They might associate it as a group associated with street violence and property destruction who spend a lot of time and energy looking for people they disagree with to have a fight and throw things at police officers
Of course it probably not like that and is misrepresented by mainstream media
Ah, yes, those well-known troublemakers, the anti-fascists. Thank god we have good old fashioned (faschioned?) plain fascists to keep them in line.
I see GBeebies has got some chinless Fauntleroy to bowl an underarm question at the PM’s press conference.
I’m sure they’ll at the front of the queue at every press conference
If you don’t know who that is, I envy you.
Who the bloody hell is Dan Wootton!? Did he have a popular MySpace page or something and they decided to give him his own prime time show!? Makes Roger Johnson look slick and professional!
It was one of the oldest tricks in the world, rather than explaining that BLM is actually a decentralised movement of people who think Racism, and Police Brutality directed toward Black people is bad, it’s actually a large, highly organised, scary organisation with shady plans for all of us.
Any mention of Antifa? Same thing applies.
I wear my Antifa and old Anti-Nazi League badges with pride!
Here’s Wired Magazine’s take on it, worth a read…
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/gb-news-launch
We’re being divided into two very strict camps, we’re being encouraged to only think in the way we think ‘our team’ should think.
Very much this. Its not just in the "news" either, my missus was remarking about how fashion articles used to talk about the latest trends, now its about how millennials say we can't wear such and such any more. It's ****ing scary to be honest, it's one big fake culture war that eventually, is going to result in one side getting so pissed off that something real will kick off. Critical thinking is not our nations strong suit. Bradbury and Orwell called it.
Wired’s pieces are normally well researched and written… that one isn’t.
If you want a peek into the future of GBNews, I'm currently bombarded with Fox News 24/7 at work. The Ingraham Angle is on at the moment (Laura Ingraham, notable racist, homophobe and Nazi salute enthusiast) doing a piece on the "Democrat Immigration Crisis", ostensibly filming at the US/Mexican border. It's all poorly-lit shots of nervous looking "Mexicans" and close ups of suspiciously-clean Biden 2020 wristbands and discarded syringes.
It would be amusing if the Americans I work with didn't lap it up.
That's going to be GB News in the run up to our next election.