Ok bruneep my apologies. But I am going to trust rude boy on this one
Nice one. Always trust in RudeBoy.
It is the Only True Way.
Yep listed to the rude one, Juan, sorry but you're overreacting a little on this one.
It's just that lately there is a return of the CEMS as from a lot of posts recently (one about the Dday, stoner post of his holidays).
Go own. You're going to have to explain the Xenophobia in my post about my holidays because casting these accusations about me is really starting to piss me off - if for some reason you're taking offence at something, it's clearly your problem, not mine.
Regardless of you treatment at the hands of some idiots in some old thread (I'm afraid I missed it so dont know what it was all about) if you then go around accusing the STW forum of being "institutionally" Xenophobic, you are being extremely rude to the vast majority who are nothing of the sort. If you then make unfounded accusations about named people (bruneep, me) you are well out of line.
Back to the original topic, I call for the defence Julianne Moore in The Big Lebowski. Brilliant actress, spot on accent.
Rene Zellweger in that girls' film weren't too bad.
Stoner Tarn + france profonde was very insulting...
Tarn was one part of a whole month in France.
I spent time in other parts of Lozere, Aude, and Pyrenees Orientals. Places where France Profonde [i]does[/i] very much exist.
You chose to be prissy and insulted (although I cant quite see how). As I said, that's your problem, not mine, and it certainly isnt evidence of any xenophobia on my part.
I suppose I shall have to accept you wont be apologising for your rude accusations anytime soon then?
Stoner Tarn + france profonde was very insulting...
Why do you feel that is insulting Juan?
Seems like the usual combination of attention seeking and paper-thin skin is in effect. 🙄
well stoner you are supposing quite accurately. France profonde is a term used by mostly parisian and city dwellers to define remote places that are kinda stuck a few years back in time. It's not a very nice term and it's never use in a nice way. Think of it as using chav for example not a nice term is it stoner.
mrsflash - I assume that juan has contrived to assume I was implying that if Tarn is "profonde" (isolated, of an earlier era) where in fact it's relatively touristy and vibrant etc, then the implication was that most of France was isolated or staid.
Quite a feat of mental gymnastics if that is the case.
Right, it's an English use of french problem. Stoner uses the term, as all native English speakers who affect speaking french would, to mean unspoilt, authentic France of the sort that wealthy middle-class English people like to "discover" on long and intensely [i]cultural[/i] holidays. If it is a term of abuse when used in French (and I'm frankly sceptical) then it certainly isn't when used in English. So wind your daft neck in.
Well there you go.
Juan, if you're going to go around applying your own, idiosyncratic, definitions to words and phrases you are going to find yourself awfully offended more often than you should.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France_profonde
No stoner I implied you though it was a retarded place populated by retarded people that are no better than you are. Which is the use of France profonde buy most of the city dwellers.
Then ask yourself this question:
Would the allo allo stuff would have been posted on a "rant against the crap english accent from american actors" if the OP would have been british?
retarded place populated by retarded people...used...by most of the city dwellers.
source? examples?
never seen it used as such in English. Would be mighty surprised to see such a use in French too. Dont be shy to link to a French source I can have a stab at reading it...
Which is [i]obviously[/i] why he goes on holiday there...
[i]"Can you hear banjos?"[/i] 🙄
You're wrong. Pipe down. Post a picture of yourself so we can look at how pretty you are if you like. 🙂
[i]Would the allo allo stuff would have been posted on a "rant against the crap english accent from american actors" if the OP would have been british? [/i]
For heaven's sake. 😆 Yes. It. Would. Allo Allo is a splendid example of very bad accents. It is even better than Kevin Costner in Robin Hood Prince of Thieves. It would have been [i]amazing[/i] if no-one had mentioned it. 🙂
Would the allo allo stuff would have been posted on a "rant against the crap english accent from american actors" if the OP would have been british?
You're being daft now and that question makes no sense.
There's is nothing misplaced about the reference to the Allo Allo guy in this thread.
Once again you are contriving to be offended. You're either trolling or need help.
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sort of thing[/url] is still miles away from what Stoner meant, and that ought to have been evident from context to a normally adjusted person.
I can't follow all of that, but the gist is that the hilarious toothless yokels can't work a computer. 🙂
Would the allo allo stuff would have been posted on a "rant against the crap english accent from american actors" if the OP would have been british?
yes!
Of course the irony here is that the Allo Allo character was [b]deliberately[/b] affecting a bad accent.
Was it xenophobic ? Yes certainly, if it was trying to make out that English people are too dim to speak foreign languages.
good point!Yes certainly, if it was trying to make out that English people are too dim to speak foreign languages.
Is it time for a post-modern reappraisal of 'Allo Allo then? I used to love it when I was 9, it can't have aged that badly, surely? 🙂
C'mon Jaun, Stoners use of Profonde wasn't anything other than in the normal English use of the term. Now if he'd been banging on about about spending a month with the Ch'tis, then you'd maybe have a case... 🙂
You can have a pop if you like...
I thought "Mind Your Language" was much funnier than 'Allo 'Allo (which was only watched by morons at my school iirc
[i]RudeBoy - Member
Rene Zellweger in that girls' film weren't too bad.
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But there must've been an English actress (who's eyes actually open properly) that could've played the part!
Bleedin 'ell.
Been out on me bike in Rural France - lovely, 3 hrs of sunny careless car less bliss thanks - and come back to this!
Can we all have a glass of wine and/or beer now. Kick back and relax? 🙂
Bleedin 'ell.
Been out on me bike in Rural France - lovely, 3 hrs of sunny careless car less bliss thanks - and come back to this!Can we all have a glass of wine and/or beer now. Kick back and relax?
Only one person getting (needlessly) uptight.
again 🙄
Strato - I would have left it in a "he's not worth it stylee", but the slag was takin liberties, innit. 😉
[i]Bienvenue chez les Ch'tis[/i]
nick - I saw that film while I was in France in December.
It was very funny and I cant help thinking about the scene as the post office guy crosses the border into Nord-Pas Calais and the bright day becomes a crashing rain storm whenever I drive that way from Dijon 🙂
Strangely, 'Allo, Allo' is/was very popular in Holland.
So is Gordon Ramsay, but that doesn't stop every restaurant in Holland being a pile of shit.
In Allo Allo our hero was a old bold French man who was Shagging not one but two waitress's, whilst surrounded by idiots from France Britain Germany and Italy.
Generally speaking Rena was shown in a very good light, whilst the rest (Brits included) looked a bit daft.
Juan, you are a reactionary lycra wearing lover of men 🙂
juan - MemberOk bruneep my apologies. But I am going to trust rude boy on this one
Its Ok juan, I was just a bit puzzled by your accusation of me.
Cheers rudeboy for standing up for the wee man.
I was mearly pointing out the crap accents in "Allo Allo" nothing more nothing less. If you want to read something into it that wasn't there, well.........
😕
Watched "Red Eye" last night - Cillian Murphy and Brian Cox doing American accents... bloody rubbish.
at least you got an apology bruneep.... 🙄
Juan do you speak with a French or a german accent? (note use of capitals)
Well 05/06/09 somebody was going to mention it:-)
What about John Barrowman??
Born, and brought up in Glasgow, to Scotish parents, but now talks like a fully paid up Septic...
I though Keira was delightfully English in Pride & Prejudice!
Oh, she IS English 😳
Teetosugars - MemberWhat about John Barrowman??
Born, and brought up in Glasgow, to Scotish parents, but now talks like a fully paid up Septic...
He did live there for 14-15 years...
Just testing the water here...
Couldn't British people's percieved xenophobia (if this is the case) be attributed to the love/hate relationship british people have with each other? Britain is reasonably unique in that it is actually a union of 4 countries. England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. We could even include Cornishland if we wanted. The cross border banter between these countries is centuries old and complex, and can appear to be, to outsiders, fairly harsh.
IF this banter is used when describing occupants of other countries it could often be interpreted as being far more malicious than it actually is. What this has done is enabled us to happily laugh at international differences such as accents and stereotypes without it being nasty and make some very succesful comedies that could draw a sharp intake of garlic flavoured breath elsewhere...oops.
isn't that the traditional bully/racist excuse "Oh, I'm just kidding!" ??
again sfb argues [i]in extremis[/i]
I thought you'd weaned yourself off that lazy habit Simon?
You are not wrong in isolation, but you have taken the situation out of it's widely understood context to create some sort of accusation...much like our prissy little friend above.
No, it's not. It's completely bi-directional. People who can socialise at that level do it all the time, both ways. It's a common theme amongst many intra-british ethnic groups although I understand if you have difficulty comprehending that.
Edit: I'll also suggest that even amongst English diverse groups it's an extremely common banter path. The North South divide is always good for a laugh as it inter city stereotyping. None of it is malicious, all the parties take it in good humour[1] and no-one finds it offensive in any way.
[1]you need a sense of humour.
