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I was never a hater, I didnt bother reading all the stuff in the press as it sounded like guff, but after yesterdays stage I am now a fan.
Is the full Sky team for the Tour announced anywhere?
He's an idiot, and his stupid bloody girlfriend. After his antics in the tour last year where he was leading Wiggo up the mountain but felt the need to grandstand and make it look like he was so much stronger than Wiggo and needed to be as blatant as possible in letting everyone else know. I for one will be happy if he does crap in the tour. With Contador back he's going to find it more difficult than last year.
With Contador back he's going to find it more difficult than last year.
OK maybe Bertie has not *cough* peaked *cough* yet but it's not looking that way at the moment is it.
the trouble for Froome is that, I'm sure he is an OK bloke, but it does not come across as such, and he appears a bit shifty.
However, his saving grace is that he is a waaaay more interesting than Wiggo to watch, so that makes him good in my books.
You are @ukcyclingexpert and I claim my £5
Go away loddrik, this thread is for fans of Froome only.
There's enough threads to bitch about him , go there please.
As for yesterdays performance, it was epic! Watched the last 20km with sweaty palms.
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Pffffffy. Johnny-come-latelys.
On a bike he looks a bit like an awkward stick insect with big pointy elbows
Any highlights online I can watch?
I think he's a stroppy kid.
" I want, I want, I want "
No wonder Wiggos out of the Tour, Brailsfords handled this with blinkers on.
Having said that he's a cracking rider, hope he does really well and gets in a break and rides out from the front.
But he actually rides, like he did yesterday, unlike Wiggins.
"After all the work my team did on the climb, winning the stage seemed the least I could do"
Yeah, what a dick.
Molly try steephill.tv
ooh what happened yesterday? i was at work
but felt the need to grandstand and make it look like he was so much stronger than Wiggo and needed to be as blatant as possible in letting everyone else know.
His climb rate for those 20min confirmed something else we already suspected. Physiologically not possible unless... .
ooh what happened yesterday? i was at work
Froome handed Bertie his arse on a plate like a doped up bowl of paella
he is a waaaay more interesting than Wiggo to watch
he is in that he has a turn of pace rather than grinds them out
Still know which one I would rather be stuck on a desert island with and that is his real problem
Cav and wiggo are proper personalities where as he is just a great bike rider with a "supportive" GF
Anyone really see him winning sports personality of the year?
Physiologically not possible unless...
Ooh, is it insinuation time then?
Here's the counter position: Team Sky are totally clean, not a whiff of banned substance between them. No hair Dave said so and I'd like to believe him.
The same Dave that said he was absolutely certain Rob Hayles didn't dope when explaining away his 50%+ or the other team GB one? Dave must have a large number of clones to spend 24 hours of every day with every rider to be so certain.
Anyone really see him winning sports personality of the year?
Didn't Ryan Giggs win it one year?
He comes across as a bit of an arse in interviews and he looks like a bag of coathangers on a bike.
I like him.
Didn't Ryan Giggs win it one year?*
well he got the ladies vote ...lots of them 😉
Hey edukator is here with his insinuations how long before he gets pwned again and sulks off
So then tony martin v Chris Boardman
😆
* ok he has no personality either
well he got the ladies vote ...lots of them
Only the ones he hasn't punched in the face 😀
I like him. Anyone who look like an alien on a bike gets my vote every time.
No idea why people are blathering on about his 'personality', maybe you should watch Big Brother instead if this stuff bothers you so much. That said he seems sound to me anyway.
I spoke to him briefly at the Tour de Romandie as he was warming up for his TT, seemed like a nice enough bloke!
No idea why people are blathering on about his 'personality', maybe you should watch Big Brother instead if this stuff bothers you so much.
True enough. Professional cyclists aren't usually laden with personality - for every Pantani there's an Indurain or a Lance. I'm guessing most people who enjoy hour after hour on bikes aren't normally 24/7 gag-crackers... which makes me wonder, incidentally, how many people on here actually ride bikes.
Strange for a profesional athlete, but it's Froome's raw ambition that I find most unappealing.
His climb rate for those 20min confirmed something else we already suspected. Physiologically not possible unless... .
This. Lets be honest here, name me three other cyclists who used to mash a 56-11 in a time trial one day, then fly up a 12km climb the next. how about:
Riis
Indurain
Armstrong
He gets more suspicious every day.
Here's the counter position: Team Sky are totally clean, not a whiff of banned substance between them.
So why did they hire one of the most notorious team 'doctors' in the sport?
Froomedog is indeed less of a personality than Wiggo, but more interesting to watch riding up a mountain as he really does have a change of pace.
Personally I think he was(is) the only chance of a british (ok I know he's really Kenyan) winner of a grand tour this year and I hope he stuffs it up the previously banned for substance abuse contador good and proper.
I feel better now,
So why did they hire one of the most notorious team 'doctors' in the sport?
Maybe he's a good doctor?*
* is naive, but happy.
ben johnson - ran fast and took drugs
Carl Lewis ran fast and took drugs
Ussain Bolt runs faster than they ever did therefore he must take drugs
Be in awe of my logic [ and ignore my absence of evidence]
Jeez Junky, that's proper logic that is. 😀
He's a bike rider, he's there to win the race not a personality contest 🙄
I like both Wiggo and Froome but Froome is certainly better to watch, yesterday was superb and I can't wait to hopefully see some more in the TDF.
I'm warming to him (nothing like having an adopted Brit that's winning to change your mind 😉 ). I thought he was a prick during the TdF last year and his GF needs to STFU about cycling stuff but yeah he is good on a bike and able to react to attacks better than Wiggo so should hopefully be a little less stressful watching mountain-top Tour stages.
Just out of interest, where do people keep reading about his GF going on about cycling? I keep reading similar comments but seem to have missed what she's blethering on about.
Bike racing needs to move into the 21st century - after every stage there should be a chance for the viewers at home to vote, then the winner decided by Simon Cowell, Will I Am and Alan Sugar.He's a bike rider, he's there to win the race not a personality contest
to clarify, I think he's good for the sport, nice to see someone attacking for once. But, I don't [i]think[/i] he's clean
Fuzzywuzzy is on my wavelength... (that may be a good or a bad thing)&
This is also a good point.
True enough. Professional cyclists aren't usually laden with personality - for every Pantani there's an Indurain or a Lance. I'm guessing most people who enjoy hour after hour on bikes aren't normally 24/7 gag-crackers
Unashamed Froomance here. I don't get the negative comments about his interviews? L'Equipe seem to like him and they're actually at press conferences etc...and French.
Anyhow I have had a search & not found it, is there an officialy Sky linup for the tour yet?
I quite like a sports person who just goes out there and trains and performs as well as they can, and don't put any consideration in to their public image.
And so for this, I like Mr Froome.
I'm thinking of other sports people fit in to this category....
Paula Radcliffe
Jonny Wilkinson
Loads out there.
Just out of interest, where do people keep reading about his GF going on about cycling? I keep reading similar comments but seem to have missed what she's blethering on about.
She spouts her nonsense on Twitter
https://twitter.com/michellecound
She really needs to STFU. I cant believe that 11000 people follow her. Sad. "Retired IT geek". Free loading gold digger more like.
wrecker - Member
She really needs to STFU. I cant believe that 11000 people follow her. Sad. "Retired IT geek". Free loading gold digger more like.
Oh teh ironing. She can't say what she likes but you can spout nonsense like that?
They important word in your post is 'follow'. I don't care what she or Cath Wiggins have to say so follow neither.
Oh teh ironing. She can't say what she likes but you can spout nonsense like that?
Well, if anyone can recognise nonsense, it's certainly you so I'm not going to argue.
Weak.
I would though
Bregante, I dont know you, but if I judge you by my own standards that means very little.. 🙂
er the sky team for the tour anyone?
Won't be announced yet. I reckon around the 20th we'll start getting team selections.
Thanks, I see Jonathan Tiernan-Locke is in the Tour de Suisse lineup, so from that I assume he wont make the tour linup. Bit early days at Sky too I suppose.
Yeah anything could happen between then and now!
Carl Lewis ran fast and took drugs
You need to be a bit careful with remarks like this, and in the same breath as Ben Johnson. You imply he was cheating his way to victories.
He tested positive 3 times for low-level substances in 1988 but these were not bannable at the time as they were commonly used in cold medications. It's not thought that was cheating. The situation is not dissimilar to that of Alain Baxter some years later, except that Alain lost his silver medal but received a great deal of public sympathy.
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Carl Lewis has broken his silence on allegations that he was the beneficiary of a drugs cover-up, [b]admitting he had tested positive for banned substances[/b] but claiming he was just one of "hundreds" of American athletes who were allowed to escape bans."There were hundreds of people getting off," he said. "Everyone was treated the same."
Lewis has now acknowledged that he failed three tests during the 1988 US Olympic trials, which under international rules at the time should have prevented him from competing in the Seoul games two months later.
The admission is a further embarrassment for the United States Olympic Committee, which had initially denied claims that 114 positive tests between 1988 and 2000 were covered up. It will add weight to calls by leading anti-doping officials and top athletes for an independent inquiry into the US's record on drug issues.
[i]I would though [/i]
+1
Not Froome though. I mean Wiggins obviously, but not Froome.
She spouts her nonsense on Twitter
Ahh, that'll be why I've missed out, I don't follow her.
I follow Wiggo, Cav and David Millar and of course Jens who is comedy gold. 😆
I love Jens' geotagging (geocaching?) updates.
My main hope for the Tour is that contacheat does win.
I am still not sure about that mountain at the TdF but I like the fact that Froome is a good TT rider and a superb mountain rider. If he wins the tour, it'll be like Nibali at the Giro, setting his stall out with the TTs but really turning the screws when it gets lumpy.
I did like that last year he didn't just sit behind Contator to keep him pegged but rode for the win to at least give the team a stage win. He may not have explained it well but it was a nice way to finish a stage when the domestiques rode their hearts out for him and a good way to show Contador who is boss.
Well I like Froome and he is way more interesting to watch riding than Wiggo
I'm no expert in this. And I'm not painting Lewis as 100% "hero" here, just a man of his time. He was "let-off" for reasons I stated above. This is not the same as the steroid abuse of Ben Johnson. As Lewis said, Johnson turned up at the track after the off-season and was "as big as a house". There are degrees of culpability: The consensus was that Lewis was not cheating; Johnson was.
Anyway, this is a sideshow. There is so much pressure and scrutiny on Sky to be clean, I just don't think Froome would do it. He's just extremely ambitious and firing on all four cylinders, IMO.
He tested positive 3 times for low-level substances in 1988 but these were not bannable at the time as they were commonly used in cold medications
Under the rules that existed at the time, his failure should've led to him being banned from the 1988 Olympics. His ban was overturned because the USOC accepted his defence of accidental ingestion. Not very different to Linford Christie's failure I guess.
Alain Baxter
He didn't expect to get on the podium and hence get tested. On two world cup rounds in triathlon I've seen athletes not start with ridiculous excuses ("there's a problem with my front wheel" and disappears an hour before the start with a bike shop 50m away) or retire unexpectedly when the dope test crew has been spotted. There was close to panic in one bike park among one nationality when word went round the dope test crew were there - not surprisingly they all had off days.
There is so much pressure and scrutiny on Sky to be clean
And despite that they hired, well you know who they hired but my posts get deleted when I name them with the year they tested positive or their previous connections, to get a Tour win.
Its sad, I dont ride road, its not my bag, I do love to watch it though, have started a few road race threads in the past, same result everytime, it turns to drug talk accusations & hearsay..
I wont bother again. 🙁
It's easier if you just ignore Edukator. He has a bit of a chip on his shoulder with regards to Sky
Nope you wont drag me back, off to get into tennis, if only to look at Annabel Crofts legs. 🙂
Tennis? Ooops
A bit? Edukaterer responds faster to these threads with the same old lines faster than Brant can even home in on the PlanetX/on-one ones. It's truly impressive.
Tennis, you say?
Well, I once read a blog by a Swedish scientist, and it said that every major tennis player everywhere was juiced up to the eyeballs. It was dead convincing, it used big words and sciency stuff and everyfink. I would post the url, but I just can't remember it.
Then, right, I was at a world series croquet event and I'm sure I saw someone spiking his Pimms. It was so obvious. I saw it, I know he was doping. Of course, I don't have any proof at all, but he did. HE DID! WHY WON'T ANYONE BELIEVE ME?
😉
CFH: We DO believe you, we're just all part of the conspiracy. Everyone in the world is. Apart from you.
I'm part of something? Wooohooooo!
[quote=Lifer ]I'm part of something? Wooohooooo!
A croquet conspiracy. It's a start I suppose.
Tennis, anyone else remember Bobby Riggs swallowing handfuls of pills before his match with Billy Jean King?
Nadal appears to be wearing fluro pink shorts, & Annabel has not been seen since I changed sport. 🙁
Annabel has not been seen since I changed sport.
Annabel's on Eurosport tinsy, looking as lovely as ever, presenting Game, Set and Mats (see what they did there?) with Mats Willander.
A truly excrutiating show, BTW. Poor Annabel just can't seem to work out the presenting business – or seemingly have a conversation. Mats looks bemused, as if he was expecting to be somewhere else and can't quite remember if he put his milk back in the fridge on his way out of the house.
Best of all, just before we go to a break, we get at least a second of Annabel and Mats gurning helplessly at TV cameras whose presence they still don't understand...
tinsy - Member
Nadal appears to be wearing fluro pink shorts,
Would you say he's 'glowing'?
Yeah I have to watch (its more listen to be honest) everything on Eurosport, my work goes through a server in Germany so it blocks all the free streaming stuff most of the time, I just subscribe when there is a road race I fancy, my month from the Giro still seems active which is odd.
I did catch a bit of Annabel yesterday whilst waiting for the Dauphine to start, I didnt really listen to her, just admired the legs.
Thanks, I see Jonathan Tiernan-Locke is in the Tour de Suisse lineup, so from that I assume he wont make the tour linup. Bit early days at Sky too I suppose.
I guess because he's not a great climber there are others more useful to support Froome.
I didnt really listen to her, just admired the legs.
Her legs are fake. This is a FACT. A bloke in the pub told me.
Oddly enough, he had a Swedish accent....
You will be telling me the tan & hair colour is from a bottle soon.
I guess because he's not a great climber there are others more useful to support Froome.
As I said before though, he's still very early in his career at this level and I'd imagine they want to use the Tour de Suisse to see how he performs in the mountains. The Tour de Suisse, the Dauphine and (very much less so) the Tour de Luxembourg are all races that don't preclude a rider for the TdF though, they're usually just the last race before the team is set for those races (if they're not already).
Be nice to see him in the Tour, looked OK at climbing to me in TOB...
I kid of assumed the Tour De Suisse, was just too close to TDF so he wouldnt be on the list of choices.
I think I read something saying that JTL was being groomed for future Grand Tours or something and wasn't quite ready - his results weren't consistent enough. Or it might have just been an idle comment from someone on here.
Regarding Froome, and for the record, I'm slowly hating Eurosport more and more! Their coverage of the Dauphine has either been not shown or on earlier than scheduled - most probably because of the French Open.
You can't even record it because it is based on the time it's scheduled to be on rather than somehow locking onto the program itself.
SO, I missed Froom-Froome's win yesterday.
Be nice to see him in the Tour, looked OK at climbing to me in TOB...
He's like me...good at the short, sharp climbs, not so good in the real mountains. 😉 I'm off to the Pyrenees on Monday to practice - shame there's so much snow there still.
