[Closed] Free Speech, putting nutters where you can see them... (Alex Jones content)

Quality. Shame they didn't cut his head off 😉

He'd like it if they did, it would prove him right, seems the kindest thing to do...

He's a very shouty man, isn't he.

saw it earlier the reaction form the guests and presenter is awesome

At least here our mad men like Icke dont seem to get the air of publicity

I bet he's on meds for his blood pressure.

He looks taken aback not to be given the credibility he often gets on US tv.

Alex Jones is a bit of a fruitloop, but amongst a wealth of other damning evidence of the Bilderbergers (Including the ongoing scandals surrounding Lobbying and PRISM), considering how many times Henry Kissinger has attended...(1957, 1964, 1966, 1971, 1973, 1974, 1977, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011,2012) and his involvement in drawing up policies such as [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Study_Memorandum_200 ]this[/url]:
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The basic thesis of the memorandum was that population growth in the least developed countries (LDCs) is a concern to U.S. national security, because it would tend to risk civil unrest and political instability in countries that had a high potential for economic development. The policy gives "paramount importance" to population control measures and the promotion of contraception among 13 populous countries, to control rapid population growth which the US deems inimical to the socio-political and economic growth of these countries and to the national interests of the United States, since the "U.S. economy will require large and increasing amounts of minerals from abroad", and these countries can produce destabilizing opposition forces against the United States. It recommends the US leadership to "influence national leaders" and that "improved world-wide support for population-related efforts should be sought through increased emphasis on mass media and other population education and motivation programs by the U.N., USIA, and USAID."

The report advises, "In these sensitive relations, however, it is important in style as well as substance to avoid the appearance of coercion."[/i]

I think it's fair to say though his delivery needs work, he may have a point and this was an exercise to discredit the truth movement.

Not so much a "shock jock" just simply a "cock". Obviously the BBC knew what he was like so why invite him on!

Ah, Alex Jones. Someone on here commented a while back that it takes a special kind of person to be the biggest arsehole in a room containing Piers Morgan.

I think Alex Jones may be a genetic experiment gone wrong. Now there's a real conspiracy theory with proper evidence!

You're all concentrating on the messenger rather than the message.

...and this was an exercise to discredit the truth movement.

Good lord 🙄

Alex Jones is an arsehole, he can't do anything in front of a camera without shouting and ranting like a madman.

If the "truth movement" doesn't want to be ridiculed, they should be the ones threatening his life if he doesn't shut up 🙄

You're all concentrating on the messenger rather than the message.

That's exactly what he's aiming for. For two reasons....

1. Because it makes him Lots and Lots of money

2. Because if you concentrate on the "message" for even a short while, you will realise he's talking complete cobblers

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David Aaronovitch looked like he was enjoying himself.

[i]he may have a point and this was an exercise to discredit the truth movement. [/i]

[yoda]
shoutier the man, less sure of argument he is
[/yoda]

true story

He could be the 'straw man' put up by Them to have the very effect that he seems to be achieving on you. What better to discredit an idea?

Funnily enough, it seems support for the movement to expose the corruption and manipulation that comes from a tangled web of conflicting interests in industry, banking and politics and the media since way back when is constantly growing...

The freedoms of the internet mean it is constantly becoming harder for the powers that be to hide their improprieties.

Yeah, but his bearings are really good. Prompt service, great prices.

Thought provoking drama with Stephen Fry:

He could be the 'straw man' put up by Them to have the very effect that he seems to be achieving on you. What better to discredit an idea?

"Them" ?

Who's supposed to be doing what in this little play ?

"We have an idiot on the show today" haha

Yeah, but his bearings are really good. Prompt service, great prices.

subtle 🙂

I would say option 1. This guy puts up so much idiot flak that it helps the bad guys get away with the bad stuff that bad guys do. He probably is in the pay of the Bildeburg group!!

Glad someone got it! 🙂

nice work CPT

Because if you concentrate on the "message" for even a short while, you will realise he's talking complete cobblers

He is entertaining in a "circus freak" kind of way.

"We have an idiot on the show today" haha

That amused me too. Although I would need to see his personal financial details before deciding whether he really is an idiot. I suspect he makes a rather comfortable living.

He is certainly saying stuff which a lot of people want to hear, whether or not he actually believes it all himself. Conspiracy theories thrive because they conveniently fit into some people's belief system.

And creating an atmosphere of extreme suspicion towards governments leading to outright hostility is high on the neoconservative agenda, ie, all government derived initiatives are bad/wrong. So the suggestion of secretive "shadow governments" which are conspiring against the good people of the world plays very well indeed.

So [s]the suggestion of[/s] [b]shouting about[/b] secretive "shadow governments" which are conspiring against the good people of the world [s]plays[/s] [b]pays[/b] very well indeed.

That's more like it 😉

Alex Jones, not just a sandwich short of a pick nick. But the entire hamper, tartan blanket, thermos and swarm of wasps.

Is he the arse who was shouting something about how many chimpanzees can dance on the head of a pin or something?

So.. I take it we're not talking about Alex Jones off of the One Show?

"Don't raise your voice, improve your argument"

Desmond Tutu

Think someone should point that out to him.....

Yeah, but his bearings are really good. Prompt service, great prices.

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Andrew Neill just laughing in his face, perfect. I particularily enjoyed the part where he banged out the number of youtube views he gets- [i]I've[/i] viewed some of his youtube vids, because it's cheaper than buying mind altering drugs, so I'm part of his 50 million.

Zoomer.

I say he is a shill.

My own tinfoil hat theory goes like this. Nutjobs like Alex Jones spouting absolute nonsense about the Euro being a Nazi conspiracy; chemtrails; drinking water; FEMA; Bilderberg; Trilateral Commission etc etc diverts attention from actual legitimate debate about civil liberties, surveilance and the wider role of corporation in politics.

The recent news about PRISM and how much information government agencies collect without our knowledge illustrates the point. But thanks to bilious loudmouths like Alex Jones anyone who voices concern about these topics gets dismissed as a swivel eyed loon, whether the concerns are legitimate or not

I honestly don't sell bearings by the way

The only downside is that he and his followers will feel totally vindicated by this "The BBC wouldn't let me talk! Proof of the conspiracy!1!!!oNE"

Divided and conqured!
Some get whats really going on and some don't, one thing is for sure, the whole setup is broken and corrupt and that alone should tell you some of these "elites" (their descriptive word Not mine) are diabolical and downright evil bunch that are capable of anything!
Oh, and Alex jones is a gobshite who caters for the Dumbassed 80% of the Us.
All IMO of course 😉

On further investigation, Alex Jones has every right to be a bit mental... google '[url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_Grove ]Bohemian Grove[/url]' ... world leaders burning effigy's in front of an owl god...WTF

The ceremony is called cremation of care (i.e. conscience?)

Twit-twoo mofos

That amused me too. Although I would need to see his personal financial details before deciding whether he really is an idiot. I suspect he makes a rather comfortable living.

As he points out, he has millions of listeners and tens of millions of YouTube hits.

kerching.

They always say there is no such thing as bad publicity and doubtless, this has put his name on the map~ if he had just presented himself calmly with some boring (albeit provable) facts, would the media have picked up on it or anyone be talking about him... nope.

Whether his finances are ploughed into personal gain or furthering the cause for exposing the sickness at the core of the system, who knows, but good on the guy for having the balls and passion to present an alternative view on a blinkered corporate agenda driven media.

http://godhelpusall.com/alex-jones-conspiracy-theorist-millionaire/4555

or can you be that batshit loony shouty conspiracy theorist but still be pretty sharp about viewer demographics, business sense and financial stuff?

I think you can and he does - see also Clarkson [ though grante dhe is only turned up to 5 but the same thing say shit you dont mean to get a reaction and money]

Whether his finances are ploughed into personal gain or furthering the cause for exposing the sickness at the core of the system, who knows, but good on the guy for having the balls and passion to present an alternative view on a blinkered corporate agenda driven media.

If he does the former he is part of the blinkered corporate agenda because he is selling an agenda for money via the media
he may have balls and passion but sadly he has no facts or credibility

I like the fact folk dont care whether he means it or not they still admire him - like his views that makes no sense to me

That video was entertaining - thanks 😀

I think his finances are ploughed into burgers

On further investigation, Alex Jones has every right to be a bit mental... google 'Bohemian Grove' ... world leaders burning effigy's in front of an owl god...WTF

If I were you, I would do a bit more "investigation" otherwise you may risk coming across as someone who laps up all the shite Alex Jones tells you, without even bothering to find out if its actually true.

Maybe have a look at this.

http://conspiracies.skepticproject.com/articles/alex-jones/dark-secrets-inside-bohemian-grove/

Or if you prefer YouTube videos, then maybe this

No doubt, Jones is a showman and can sometimes embellish between the facts, however, the vast majority of his claims ring true~ both of those links you posted are specifically formed to discredit him; the video in particular mentions there is no proof of the elite (even good old [url= http://rt.com/usa/bohemian-blair-powell-guccifer-811/ ]Tony Blair[/url] wants a piece of the action) attending the ceremony; all things considered couple the extensive evidence of [url= http://www.examiner.com/article/hacked-photos-show-colin-powell-actors-at-bohemian-grove ]their attendance to the site[/url], with the presence of said [url= https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StlhOlztQNw ]gigantic owl [/url] and one way or another, some weird shit is happening.

In his rant on the BBC, he mentions the [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_Martin ]Lockheed[/url] Scandal which forced the [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Bernhard_of_Lippe-Biesterfeld ]Bilderberg founder[/url] to resign... that also rings true.

Have you ever been to Bohemian Grove nealglover? 😆

No doubt, Jones is a showman and can sometimes embellish between the facts, however, [b]the vast majority of his claims ring true[/b]~

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You have either not heard enough of his claims, or you are a gullible muppet.

I'll let you decide which.

both of those links you posted are specifically formed to discredit him

So your not saying they are inaccurate then ?

I'm sensing OWL denial:

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So your not saying they are inaccurate then ?

I'd say overall they are inaccurate, since although they pick up on specific points that can be manipulated to spin the story, they fail to come up with satisfactory explanations for:

a) The whole owl deity sacrifice thing

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b) The illicit gathering of [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_Club ]well known fat-cats[/url] which is a blatant conflict of interests, especially when there is some freaky owl stuff going on.

Here is Alex in a more relaxed scenario... check the facts.

Now, what are your thoughts on the owl?

I'm sensing OWL denial:
.....

Your senses need a tune up then.

a) The whole owl deity sacrifice thing
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What about it ?

What is being "sacrificed" exactly ??

b) The illicit gathering of well known fat-cats which is a blatant conflict of interests, especially when there is some freaky owl stuff going on.

It's hardly illicit is it ?

Everyone knows about it.

(Are you getting Bilderburg and Bohemian Grove mixed up by the way ? It certainly sounds like it.

Now, what are your thoughts on the owl?

Why do I have to have thoughts on it ?

It's a club I'm not a member of, that has a party every summer that I don't go to, and they have a ceremony at the start of the party and a load of fireworks and stuff.

Couldn't care less about it to be honest.

Do you think I should care ? And if so, why ?

Well, that's a coincidence. I've literally just finished reading 'them' by Jon ronson, which contains quite a bit about alex Jones and the owl bother. Funny, and all too revealing about the man's paranoia.

Jones is a showman and can sometimes embellish between the facts, however, the vast majority of his claims ring true

'd say overall they are inaccurate, since although they pick up on specific points that can be manipulated to spin the story

You argue it differently depending on whether it is to support him or oppose him- in essence the facts here are irrelevant so I wish neal the very best of luck in his chat with you

He is a loon and only loons follow him /think their is truth in it etc conspircist fruit cake who appeals to many

...so I wish neal the very best of luck in his chat with you

You are quite right, Debating anything with anyone who anything Alex Jones says is pretty pointless.

Their sense of truth is generally broken.

It is fun however 😀

And the liberal use of YouTube "evidence" is always good for a laugh too.

I guess what I'm really trying to put across is despite Alex Jones being over hyped and in your face, he certainly raises some relevant issues...

Considering the ongoing lobbying scandal and Cameron's claim of transparency, how is it that we are to quietly swallow the taxpayer funding of a secret meeting of tax avoiding elites? Whilst we pay them to spy on us...

Tony Blair openly lied in Parliament about attending a Bilderberg meeting:

Their sense of truth is generally broken.

It is fun however

And the liberal use of YouTube "evidence" is always good for a laugh too.

I'm sorry, how foolish of me, backing up my arguments with "evidence"... click the links and you'll find it goes way beyond some youtube goons speculating with conjecture~ I've even got the official documents from the Charity commission for the [url= http://apps.charitycommission.gov.uk/Accounts/Ends06/0000272706_AC_20120331_E_C.PDF ]Bilderberg Association[/url]

(that one is sooo good I had to use it twice) 😆

I've even got the official documents from the Charity commission for the Bilderberg Association

So what ?

What point are you trying to prove by posting a link to some random paperwork related to Bilderburg Assoc ?

So what ?

What point are you trying to prove by posting a link to some random paperwork related to Bilderburg Assoc ?

Nice troll... on the off chance you can't read and have yet to watch the oscar winning documentary, [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inside_Job_%28film%29 ]inside job[/url]...

As for the banking industry, who are heavily represented in the Bilderberg Group (Marcus Agius who resigned from Barclays over the Libor Scandal and is a senior director of the BBC is one of the 3 trustees of the Bilderberg Association along with Kenneth Clarke)

I'd recommend this as essential viewing (don't worry, no Alex Jones and plenty of evidence):

[i]'Inside Job' provides a comprehensive analysis of the global financial crisis of 2008, which at a cost of over $20 trillion, caused millions of people to lose their jobs and homes in the worst recession since the Great Depression, and resulted in a global financial crisis, the affects of which continue to this day.

Through exhaustive research and extensive interviews with key financial insiders, politicians, journalists, and academics, the film traces the rise of a rogue industry which has corrupted politics, regulation, and academia.[/i]

Given the track record of corruption displayed throughout the upper echelons of society and the conflict of interests of having [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Agius ]Marcus Agius[/url] as a trustee of the Bilderberg Association, accepting their nicey nicey golf and skipping through meadows explantion is a touch naive.

Nice troll... on the off chance you can't read and have yet to watch the oscar winning documentary, inside job...

So I'll ask again.

What point are you trying to prove ?

A rich and powerful person is a trustee of a Group that's populated by rich and powerful people.

Should I be shocked ?

Seriously. Should I ?

Should I be shocked ?

And disgusted of course

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Why ?

You are wasting your time with mr glover JHJ, nothing you show him will get some sort agreement, anyone with half a brain knows that conspiracies in high places take place every day and some get uncovered (usualy by someone that is easily sullied so its easier to throw the baby out with the bath water) if you know what i mean.
After looking into things over the last 25yrs im convinced we are being right royaly ****ed over and constantly lied to, and as i said earlier, some see it and some never will!
Peace and respect 🙂

You are wasting your time with mr glover

If you are hoping to convince me that Alex Jones is anything other than a complete fraud and a greedy money making liar.....

Then I would agree, that would be a waste of your time.

...nothing you show him will get some sort agreement

It would need to make sense for me to be able to read it obviously.

....anyone with half a brain knows that conspiracies in high places take place every day

And Alex Jones is the man to expose them.

On his website we learn how the United States is now pretty much a communist state. The proof includes the claim that the US government confiscates private property [i]"to launch public works projects designed to “improve communities,” by building such things as freeways, schools, libraries, and public utilities"[/i].

We also learn that [i]"Another unconstitutional, and communistic-inspired entity, is the Federal Reserve, America’s national bank which exerts unprecedented power to set monetary policy with the intent of “stabilizing” the economy."[/i]

Then there is [i]"nationalized education"[/i] for more indisputable evidence of communism. And of course let's not forget Obama's determination to introduce socialized healthcare which Alex Jones website describes as a [i]"blatantly unconstitutional precedent will be set that grants the U.S. government a supreme and tyrannical authority over citizens’ health and well-being"[/i].

And so on, until it concludes [i]"Some balk at the use of the word “Communism,” dismissing its invocation as hyperbole. Yet when dissecting actual policies, laws, regulations and bureaucratic government approaches which Americans are increasingly subjected to, and weighing them against the 10 progressive “rules to live by,” the facts scream loudly and clearly in the face of those who deny the ever-creeping onset of Socialism."[/i]

To ram home the claim that the US is now under the control of an international communist conspiracy, the article rather helpfully includes how they imagine the US flag should now look like :

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[url= http://www.infowars.com/is-america-embracing-the-10-tenets-of-the-communist-manifesto/ ]Is America Embracing the 10 Tenets of the Communist Manifesto?[/url]

Now who after being provided with that irrefutable evidence can deny that there is a communist conspiracy at the very heart of the US government ?

But of course Alex Jones isn't the first to have become aware of this terrifying fact.

General Ripper, who was particularly concerned with the threat posed to [i]"citizens’ health and well-being"[/i] by the international communist conspiracy.

As we have seen, Alex Jones is no saint, but he is not solely responsible for the output on the website bearing his name, much as the citizens of this country are not responsible for atrocities committed in our name.

Now, about appropriate hate figures...

how many peoples deaths have occurred in the name of Alex Jones?

Compare that to the deaths under the administrations of just the current leaders of the UK and US... then expand further taking into account all casualties including George W and Blair...

who really needs holding to account?

Are drones really an acceptable tool of removing the human element (and accountability) from war?

......he is not solely responsible for the output on the website bearing his name

I suppose that such a shy and unassuming man like Alex Jones probably doesn't like to create too much of a fuss if stuff he doesn't agree with is posted on a website bearing his name ?

Or maybe he just agrees with it ?

Which do you think is more likely ?

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EDIT : Oh look what I've found :

So Alex Jones has been claiming for a very long time that the US government has a communist agenda, for all the reasons stated above. And according to his colleague "anyone who denies it is an absolute idiot".

Dr Strangelove was a comedy film, Alex Jones is actually serious.

Fair play... in light of that, I concede, Alex Jones is more of a tool than a prophet~ that said, my previous evidence stands, there is some filthy dealings that we need to address to progress and the owl should not be hastily forgotten 😆 ...

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Just had a quick read, aside from the bizarre Owl stuff, and a shock jock, who seems to be mistaking Communism for corporatism, there was mention of the bilderberg group. Isn't anyone actually curious about what this exclusive group of people have been discussing?

Our Prime minister who is supposedly answerable to the electorate is reluctant to discuss what was discussed.

Our Prime minister who is supposedly answerable to the electorate is reluctant to discuss what was discussed.

The reason AJ gets so irate is because it is so serious.
Do you want your children to grow up just to have a boot trampling on their face, forever?

And how dare Andrew Neil tell AJ to 'shut up' and call him an idiot. Just typical BBC whitewashing of any truth. Total disgrace http://www.prisonplanet.com/auntie-is-a-whore.html

Isn't anyone actually curious about what this exclusive group of people have been discussing?

I'm not really that curious. Industrialists and bankers are constantly having conversations, often with politicians. And I'm really not that interested in the details. I don't believe there is a "hidden agenda". Capitalism's agenda is very clear and obvious. Even if right-wing politicians are, unsurprisingly, somewhat less than honest.

Just typical BBC whitewashing of any truth.

Is the BBC also part of the global conspiracy ?

How come Alex Jones didn't choose to go to ITV instead ?

Is the BBC also part of the global conspiracy ?

Well, [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronnie_Stonham ]The BBC have a history of links with Mi5 [/url] (which makes you wonder about the whole Jimmy Savile thing, especially as he was a suspect in the Yorkshire ripper case) not to mention:

(Marcus Agius who resigned from Barclays over the Libor Scandal and [b]is a senior director of the BBC[/b] is one of the 3 trustees of the Bilderberg Association along with Kenneth Clarke)

Is the BBC also part of the global conspiracy ?

How come Alex Jones didn't choose to go to ITV instead ?

The BBC is effectively a paedophile ring parading as a media network.

Surely Alex Jones would have known that ?

So it seems rather daft for him to agree to appear on a paedophile ring which is merely parading as a "media network".

Specially as your link to his website specifically refers to the BBC in terms of "Auntie is a Whore".

As I said, it would have made far more sense for him to go to ITV.

Still, I guess we can't expect too much commonsense from a man who claims that the Euro is a Nazi plan and the United States is run by communists, can we ?

So I think Andrew Neil (on the BBC) calling Alex Jones an idiot was probably a fair point. Although possibly not fair on idiots.

Yea, and where would Nasa be without all the Nazis they brought over after ww2?
Im not a fan of Alex jones BUT 90% of his content is good, but the way he goes about things and the bullcrap 10% tells me something about him! Its the same with our very own David icke, if you talk 10% nonsense then all the rest could be seen as nonsense too hence my earlier "throw the baby out with the bath water" coment

which makes you wonder about the whole Jimmy Savile thing, especially as he was a suspect in the Yorkshire ripper case

Five seconds' googling would suggest that's nonsense. Seemingly he offered to be a liaison, which is weird but doesn't make him a suspect.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/398571/Jimmy-Savile-was-set-to-be-Yorkshire-Ripper-and-police-go-between

The disgraced DJ, who died in 2011, had his details taken during the hunt for the Yorkshire Ripper, but police confirm there is no evidence to suggest he was ever a murder suspect.

Arguing with conspiracy theorists is a bit like arguing with the devout - the standards they require for evidence are about the same.

There are definitely conspiracies - LIBOR rigging is a recent one
You could write a book (several have been) on the CIA's various conspiracies over the years.

So why do the conspiracy nutjobs focus on the most ludicrous theories?
If Alex Jones spoke sensibly about these issues instead of Bilderberg controlling the world or the US government poisoning its citizens through the drinking water he might get a bit more credibility

But he's isn't after credibility he is after money

But Flouride IS a poison!

Commies don't drink water, only Vodka, right?

Five seconds' googling would suggest that's nonsense. Seemingly he offered to be a liaison, which is weird but doesn't make him a suspect.

So having a [url= http://www.****/news/article-2229786/Jimmy-Savile-Yorkshire-Ripper-Cast-DJs-teeth-check-bites-left-Peter-Sutcliffes-victims.html ]cast made of his teeth to compare with bite marks on the victims[/url] makes him free of all suspicion does it?

Definitely nothing that would've been picked up by any intelligence agencies working within the BBC...

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